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Quote from: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 12:47:25 PM

Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:46:36 AM

Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different.

The V9 has 135x chips, so it has 45x chips per one hash board.

It is exactly the same as with the S7 later batches.

whoops i misread one of the links I guess.

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Quote from: Sitarow on February 07, 2018, 01:47:41 PM

Quote from: gurugarzah on February 07, 2018, 01:20:02 PM

4TH for $435 bucks USD is still A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Canaan’s. 11TH @ $2,880

True but also the S9 is up for sell and they do 13.5TH at 1375watts.

You also need to buy a minimum qty of 5 V9's

That's ridiculous. I was going to say that the only reason anyone would ever buy this is because the price is cheaper, as a way for people without a lot of money to get into mining. Now that I see you have to order at least 5 of them, there is no reason anyone should buy these, period.

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Quote from: gurugarzah on February 07, 2018, 01:20:02 PM

4TH for $435 bucks USD is still A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Canaan’s. 11TH @ $2,880

True but also the S9 is up for sell and they do 13.5TH at 1375watts.

You also need to buy a minimum qty of 5 V9's

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4TH for $435 bucks USD is still A WHOLE LOT BETTER than Canaan’s. 11TH @ $2,880

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Quote from: kenji on February 07, 2018, 12:47:47 PM

Quote from: notey on February 07, 2018, 12:33:39 PM

Quote from: nsummy on February 07, 2018, 11:50:01 AM

Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:41:26 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2018, 10:28:11 PM

Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work.

Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right?

I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it.

Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think.

They have a right to their opinion - as do you. Bitmain selling this as being "pleased to announce the all-new #Antminer V9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner, especially designed for long-term use in fast-growing mining operations"is being slightly misleading. But, the specs are there for all to decide. My question would be why bother releasing this inefficient miner now unless they are selling "old" not "new" board stock? All looks a little suspect to me... and that's just a IMHO comment.

Of course it's old stock that they're simply re-branding to sell easily, at least that's what would make sense, no?

Exactly. So, the "all new" Bitmain description is not accurate. In other words, people will "talk S*$#" about a company as long as they don't tell the truth about their product.

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Quote from: notey on February 07, 2018, 12:33:39 PM

Quote from: nsummy on February 07, 2018, 11:50:01 AM

Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:41:26 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2018, 10:28:11 PM

Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work.

Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right?

I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it.

Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think.

They have a right to their opinion - as do you. Bitmain selling this as being "pleased to announce the all-new #Antminer V9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner, especially designed for long-term use in fast-growing mining operations"is being slightly misleading. But, the specs are there for all to decide. My question would be why bother releasing this inefficient miner now unless they are selling "old" not "new" board stock? All looks a little suspect to me... and that's just a IMHO comment.

Of course it's old stock that they're simply re-branding to sell easily, at least that's what would make sense, no?

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Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:46:36 AM

Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different.

The V9 has 135x chips, so it has 45x chips per one hash board.

It is exactly the same as with the S7 later batches.

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Quote from: nsummy on February 07, 2018, 11:50:01 AM

Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:41:26 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2018, 10:28:11 PM

Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work.

Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right?

I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it.

Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think.

They have a right to their opinion - as do you. Bitmain selling this as being "pleased to announce the all-new #Antminer V9 #BitcoinCash #Bitcoin miner, especially designed for long-term use in fast-growing mining operations"is being slightly misleading. But, the specs are there for all to decide. My question would be why bother releasing this inefficient miner now unless they are selling "old" not "new" board stock? All looks a little suspect to me... and that's just a IMHO comment.

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Is it me or here in NY at 12 cents a kw/hr this isnt even profittable.....1000 watts for 4TH when you could have S9 doing 11-14TH for 1200/1400 watts. Its a cheap miner but it isnt even profittable lol. Unless btc is like 20k each. These are electricity guzzling space heaters.

There are many reasons for these devices. Perhaps obligatory contracts and these help replace end of life hardware.

Here is what it would look like if BTC/USD was at $15,000.00. From what I can see buying BTC at this low rate vs hardware purchase of this type makes business sense.

UPDATE: Here is the document for reference.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11QS1BBV11KNGTF8N_-fdfmjTZ3WzPQFbLfVrl5n6R8s/edit?usp=sharing

BTC/USD 15000 NETWORK DIFFICULTY INCREASE OF 10% FOR 6 RE-TARGETS.

BTC/USD 8500 NETWORK DIFFICULTY INCREASE OF 5% FOR 6 RE-TARGETS.

^ updated to reflect proper name and other purchase options,

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Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:41:26 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2018, 10:28:11 PM

Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work.

Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right?

I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it.

Amen to this. They sell the A3 for $2400 and people bitch. Then they sell a 2nd batch for $980 and people bitch even more! Now they are selling a miner for a hundred bucks and people come out of the woodwork! I haven't checked ebay prices for awhile but late last year S7s were selling for nearly $1000. I'm sure Bitmain's poor customer serviceis mostly due to the fact that they know they can't win. Its obvious that it doesn't matter if their prices are high or low, or support is good or bad, the vocal minority will still complain. Of course they also sell out of everything so they know it really doesn't matter what people think.

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Quote from: fanatic26 on February 07, 2018, 11:41:26 AM

Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2018, 10:28:11 PM

Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work.

Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right?

I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it.

I guess calling it "all new" vs "refubrished" is not very legit (assuming they are actually miners made up of stuff they had in their farms). You are right people just trash bitmain for no reason and accuse them of all the imaginable conspiracies with no proof. I guess that's what happens once you have bad rep.

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Another interesting thing to note is these are 54 chip boards. The S7 hasnt been 54 chip since batch 3 or 4. They spent the majority of the time making the 45 chip model, so something has to be different.

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Quote from: HagssFIN on February 07, 2018, 05:36:02 AM

I see it very possible, that Bitmain is moving a lot of operation to the USA and Switzerland.

There are several news sources that state Biteme might be moving to Canada, probably Quebec for cheap hydro power.

The claims that Bitmain is clearing out their warehouse to move to another country are idiotic at best. Its not uncommon for companies to unload old inventory to clear their warehouses. Its takes up space and depreciates. There is a reason Bitmain is in china to begin with: Its where all of the electronics are made. They aren't going to move operations to another country to have Canadians and Americans build their mining equipment.

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Quote from: leowonderful on February 04, 2018, 10:28:11 PM

Yeah, I don't see this as a special miner either but rather Bitmain trying to sell off their S7s in their mining warehouses as mining becomes less profitable. Shitmain at work.

Literally everything bitmain does someone has to talk shit. I mean how dare a company sell off old stock at super cheap prices right?

I mean its 2018, when I see Ford closing out the 2017 models I guess I should hop on the internet and shit talk them for it.

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When people say you won't be able to sell your old miners down the line show them this haha.

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Quote from: dlezama on February 07, 2018, 11:14:11 AM

Yes, they are awesome for heating your house... if you are deaf and like to breathe formaldehyde

I live in Canada, it is -13 C today. Asics and gpu rigs in basement.

My furnace has not come on once this winter.

4000 sq foot stone house built in 1883, no insulation in walls.

Balloon frame design, drop a screwdriver inside the wall while doing work on the second floor and it will fall right to the basement.

Single pane glass windows.

House sits at a constant 62 F 24/7.

No, I do not have a wood stove. Forced air gas is all I have for heat (which I dont use any more.)

Electricity bill about $900 per month.

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Yes, they are awesome for heating your house... if you are deaf and like to breathe formaldehyde

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Quote from: VRobb on February 07, 2018, 10:07:46 AM

For any ASIC miner wattage in = heat out. So yes, 1kW of heat, plus bonus BTC! Wink

I may take a risk on it

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For any ASIC miner wattage in = heat out. So yes, 1kW of heat, plus bonus BTC! Wink

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How does this unit compare to this one: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LifeSmart-Large-Room-1000W-Portable-Electric-Infrared-Quartz-Room-Space-Heater/39536773

Same power consumption - how about heating capability?

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