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April 13, 2024, 10:04:36 AM
#97
I once tried to make trading my full-time job for a few months in the past bull run, in 2021 and I have to say that it was one of my worst decisions ever. I had to sit in front of the computer or smartphone for most of my time, sometimes I even had to skip a night and be awake because price was so volatile that it was necessary to keep awake in order to not lose and catch a good profit. Now I suggest everyone to not consider it as a full-time job because stress is unbearable, it's impossible to live this way long-term, even short-term sucks very much. Such a high stress, like OP said, negatively affects health. Young people won't notice anything in twenties and thirties but stress over stress builds up over time and then many health problem arises.
Trading as a full-time job? You need to have the stomach for it. It's an extremely stressful and anxious environment that makes gambling look like a piece of cake. I'm not at all bothered by gambling, yes, sometimes I may be a little frustrated or anxious when watching the match I bet on, but just that. I also spent a good time in front of the computer during the Covid-19 quarantine and can relate to what you were feeling. I couldn't stand being in front of the computer, I couldn't let go and do something else, the stress is unbearable, especially if you're an anxious person like myself and stopped shortly after.

I don't think gambling can relate to that feeling, because people usually compare the two, you have the ability to control a lot of what's happening in order to have some peace of mind, something that you cannot do at trading.
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April 13, 2024, 09:51:02 AM
#96
Trading cannot be considered a full-time job, and you do not need to be connected to the Internet to trade, so there is no reason for you to think a lot about trading, especially since thinking will bring negative results for you and will not be useful in enhancing your profits.
If you cannot stop thinking about trading, it is better to stop it and find a safe way to invest your money.
I once tried to make trading my full-time job for a few months in the past bull run, in 2021 and I have to say that it was one of my worst decisions ever. I had to sit in front of the computer or smartphone for most of my time, sometimes I even had to skip a night and be awake because price was so volatile that it was necessary to keep awake in order to not lose and catch a good profit. Now I suggest everyone to not consider it as a full-time job because stress is unbearable, it's impossible to live this way long-term, even short-term sucks very much. Such a high stress, like OP said, negatively affects health. Young people won't notice anything in twenties and thirties but stress over stress builds up over time and then many health problem arises.
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April 12, 2024, 02:20:15 PM
#95
The state of mind at which people trade is very important for traders to recognise it. when people are having doubt or fear of lose in trading it means they are not really sure of what they are doing. The reason why people have this fear is because they don't really know what they are doing. People needs to understand trading very well, learning trade to get good understanding we reduce the level at which people fear to lose their money. What also makes people to be afraid to lose money in trading is when they use money they can't afford to lose it makes them to develop fear because they are not sure what will be the outcome of the trade bit because of greed people still go ahead of trading to make money.
When they are not sure about what they are doing in the trade they are making, of course they cannot understand correctly what they are going to do in the trade and it would be better for them to go back to studying trading so they can analyze it first properly before deciding to trade. because without correct analysis of course we will not be sure about what we are doing so we will experience failure in trading and someone who trades greedily will certainly make it very difficult for them to gain profits from trading and they will miss out on many advantages.
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April 12, 2024, 08:50:15 AM
#94
People need to understand that when you are investing money in something, there is risk of losing the money also. Hence you need to be mentally prepared for that. If you are putting money to make money, then you are indirectly risking it to get more money in return. Hence many expert traders always say that, trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. If you go over the budget, then it will create unnecessary tension in my opinion. Hence it’s better to calculate the risk and put money on trading.
but its still undeniable though that the stress generated from such activities might give strain to heart but indeed having calculated the risk and also just betting on the money that someone can afford to lose like basically if they lose the money they can just forget it is definitely better than forcing ourselves to go all in and be mentally stressed which could in turn causes heart disease in the long run.
there is so many studies out there finding out the relation between stress and heart disease its often stress the main culprit of heart disease.
usually though the trading activities that causes most stress is the derivative ones like future where we sometime over leverage just for the sake of pursuing greater profit.
i experienced first hand that future with high leverage is really stressful, forcing us to watch out for the sudden price hike or dumps.
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April 12, 2024, 08:04:35 AM
#93
Many traders don’t know the after effects of over thinking worrying fear in their trading situations and decisions making, I just want to  drop this as message to everyone that is always worried and scared of losing during trading,
The state of mind at which people trade is very important for traders to recognise it. when people are having doubt or fear of lose in trading it means they are not really sure of what they are doing. The reason why people have this fear is because they don't really know what they are doing. People needs to understand trading very well, learning trade to get good understanding we reduce the level at which people fear to lose their money. What also makes people to be afraid to lose money in trading is when they use money they can't afford to lose it makes them to develop fear because they are not sure what will be the outcome of the trade bit because of greed people still go ahead of trading to make money.
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April 11, 2024, 04:21:11 PM
#92
To be fair having this is not that uncommon. I have this too, and not just about trading, whenever it is something about money, whenever I have some trouble, I just end up making mistakes and failing to keep calm. Doesn't mean that I make mistakes, I still do what I should be doing, and even if I profit, that doesn't mean that I feel comfortable about it.

You can still be worried and fill with anxiety while not making a mistake, that is the important thing about this situation. I am not a terrible trader, not some great one neither but not terrible, if you look at my year to year, I am usually doing fine. But I also have a lot of worry and that usually results with something that would be a lot more important to me, worry is temporary, profit is permeant.
We all get anxious for different reasons. Even if we do have a lot of money, it’s still unavoidable not to get worry even in simple things that we fail to satisfy ourselves. That’s how a normal human being is.

However, we can always chose to control not to get ourselves into trouble and avoid having that anxiety at all. Just don’t be too serious on everything that makes you worry easily, that way you can control your emotions without getting highly attached like into trading or in everything you do that offer you decent profits.
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April 11, 2024, 01:16:42 PM
#91
People need to understand that when you are investing money in something, there is risk of losing the money also. Hence you need to be mentally prepared for that. If you are putting money to make money, then you are indirectly risking it to get more money in return. Hence many expert traders always say that, trade with the amount that you can afford to lose. If you go over the budget, then it will create unnecessary tension in my opinion. Hence it’s better to calculate the risk and put money on trading.
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April 11, 2024, 12:17:22 PM
#90
To be fair having this is not that uncommon. I have this too, and not just about trading, whenever it is something about money, whenever I have some trouble, I just end up making mistakes and failing to keep calm. Doesn't mean that I make mistakes, I still do what I should be doing, and even if I profit, that doesn't mean that I feel comfortable about it.

You can still be worried and fill with anxiety while not making a mistake, that is the important thing about this situation. I am not a terrible trader, not some great one neither but not terrible, if you look at my year to year, I am usually doing fine. But I also have a lot of worry and that usually results with something that would be a lot more important to me, worry is temporary, profit is permeant.
Anxiety and stress are pretty normal in life and yeah it’s not only happening with your trading mistakes but also in some cases with your life. Trading is very risky and can be stressful, if you are still making mistakes then you are still learning how to trade well which I believe is just part of the process. If you will stop learning then that can be more risky, making mistakes are normal all you have to do is to learn from it and stop making the same mistake again.
Trading can be stressful if we make it stressful because there are many traders that had been trading for many years now and they don't see trading as stressful the waybwe might see it. Ut is very important one should be smart and do the necessary things so that we don't get too busy doing things that are not necessary. Technical analysis is one thing that do make us stressed as trader and we should be very careful about that.
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April 11, 2024, 12:06:53 PM
#89
Traders who are afraid of experiencing losses are traders who do not fully understand how trading works, all traders must have experienced losses either because they were inexperienced or made the wrong decision or also because the market moved in the opposite direction very quickly.
Dummy trading helps to minimize these losses before real time trading begins. Most people dont use it at all or are not patient enough to do it.

In trading one will always face some losses. But speaking of spot trading these are only conversions of one coin to another and hence you always have some asset to sell in the market. In futures and margin you will completely lose money if you dont know what you are doing with it.

Hence spot is always safer than the rest. But the risk takers will prefer the other modes.
I already heard a couple of negative feedbacks about this dummy/demo trading. They say that it doesn't offer real-life trading experience, and that... This might be the reason on why a trader can skip it, apart from what you said there of being impatient. In trading, only the newbies can always face losses but the more experience they gain, the more the profits they can gain as well.

I think spot trading in crypto and other financial markets is not the same as simple trading we do outside. We might get an exchange for what we have traded but the question is have they retained their value? It's good if they are increasing but what if not? Spot is safer than the other types of trading but others might offer more profit potential. No wonder, why many are trying them even if they can lack in experience.
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April 10, 2024, 05:48:51 PM
#88
If you realize that trading is hurting your and you take it serious then leave it because nothing is more important than your health and if your health gets effected then no matter how large sum of money you earned you will not be able to enjoy it.

If you are calm in trading and have knowledge so I think you will have no pressure of win or loss but if you cannot keep calm then it will surely effects your heart. Therefore it is better to enjoy your life with the amount of money you have because one day you will realize that a satisfied life is much better than wealthy life full of diseases.
Yes, of course it would be better for us to avoid it if it really causes us problems for our health, because if we continue to force ourselves to trade then it is very likely that we will have a lot of problems that we will face, of course we don't want this to happen. and avoiding this is certainly the right choice.

When someone already has knowledge in trading, of course they will be able to carry out analysis for trading and will be able to make the right decisions to be able to make a profit in trading and when they experience defeat, of course they will be able to remain calm and learn from the mistakes they made and correct the mistakes.
While trading can be risky and won’t be good for our health, know that it can also be learned through consistent experience. That way, we will learn how to control our emotions everytime we decide to trade. Now if we are still affected everytime we incur losses in trading and we tend to over react, and it will continue in the long run, I think we are not destined to be good and efficient traders. It’s better to change career probably, or just focus on our day job and other side hustles, and leave trading for good so that our health will be safe and emotions will be at peace.
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April 10, 2024, 05:39:23 PM
#87
... So please everyone should be careful of how you get worried on situations because you may not notice any physical problem but it disturbs your heart internally but you may not know When someone is anxious, their body reacts in ways that can put an extra strain on their heart.

It has been noticed for a long time, the lower your leverage, the better your sleep) It is not enough to know the basics of the risk management strategy, it is necessary to follow all its points without exceptions. And in this simple way, you will keep your heart healthy.
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April 10, 2024, 05:27:23 PM
#86
Many traders don’t know the after effects of over thinking worrying fear in their trading situations and decisions making, I just want to  drop this as message to everyone that is always worried and scared of losing during trading, you may not really know the after effect of panic and anxiety of losing your trades,each time you think and get worried it results to heart condition that increase gradually.
Most people are scared when they enter a trade, since they don’t want to lose money, all what they want is is profit, so whenever they are at lose they are always disturbed which is really bad. When you are trading, make sure it is done with your money, don’t take a loan, and the money you are trading with should be any amount you can afford to lose, so whenever you are at lose, you are not going to be disturbed. Trading is something which is suppose to be done for fun, you shouldn’t really be desperate to make money from trading, because if you are desperate to make money, then you will never have peace when you are trading. Your health condition is important, how will you feel after making money from trading, and you end up spending all on your health, so don’t be too desperate when trading.
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April 10, 2024, 05:02:23 PM
#85
To be fair having this is not that uncommon. I have this too, and not just about trading, whenever it is something about money, whenever I have some trouble, I just end up making mistakes and failing to keep calm. Doesn't mean that I make mistakes, I still do what I should be doing, and even if I profit, that doesn't mean that I feel comfortable about it.

You can still be worried and fill with anxiety while not making a mistake, that is the important thing about this situation. I am not a terrible trader, not some great one neither but not terrible, if you look at my year to year, I am usually doing fine. But I also have a lot of worry and that usually results with something that would be a lot more important to me, worry is temporary, profit is permeant.
Anxiety and stress are pretty normal in life and yeah it’s not only happening with your trading mistakes but also in some cases with your life. Trading is very risky and can be stressful, if you are still making mistakes then you are still learning how to trade well which I believe is just part of the process. If you will stop learning then that can be more risky, making mistakes are normal all you have to do is to learn from it and stop making the same mistake again.
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April 10, 2024, 04:33:02 PM
#84
I always say that trading is not for the faint of heart and tell people to avoid it if they are not fit for it, because it is those who are alive that are trading. Trading is not that child's play, an easy avenue to make money as many influencers would say. It is a tough task that will drag your money and health with you in some cases which will surely cause emotional trauma and other issues if care is not taken. Imagine the person trading with all or almost what he has and the person is hypertensive, this can trigger unforeseen issues that might take his life.

This is why it is often advised that one should trade with the amount that means nothing to them, after all, if you lose such an amount, you will continue your life as though nothing happened. Even if you started trading and can afford a big sum of money, do not rush to invest the money in there but try it with a little amount. Over time, you will know your risk affinity towards trading and what your nature can endure. Upon detection that you have too much reaction towards the money, I advise you to reduce it or quit trading to avoid further issues.
Perhaps, any person willing to go into trading should firstly try with a test or use demo accounts to see if they can grow to meet up and surpass the challenges of emotions and all such variables that may cause heart conditions and anxiety during trade with a loss on the verge.

The wisest traders are often not those who invest alot, but those who have understood and developed the emotional maturity to know how the market works.
They know when to activate stop loss, when to take a break, when to take profit, how much should be traded with; because they have grown thick skin from learning and understanding how their mind and body reacts to making trade decisions.

Yes it is true that a demo account can be used as an alternative to learning about the basic stages of understanding the world of trading such as understanding how the market works and also understanding how to use some features that can help us in terms of analyzing, but believe me that the real tension and pressure you will feel when you have entered the real account where you trade using real money. Because when you experience a loss on a demo account then you will not be able to feel the real chemistry of anxiety or tension when you experience a loss.

I'm not telling you to immediately trade with real money because yes for beginners anyway this is too risky an idea, meaning that it doesn't matter if you want to use a demo account as an intermediary or alternative to learn about the market because it's pretty good, but maybe I would advise to prepare more like preparing mentally and psychologically when you have started to enter real trading using your money, because sometimes there are traders who claim that when on a demo account they are easy to find profits but when on a real account they even lose more, That is because when on a demo account you will not hesitate at all to make a decision to open a trade because you are using fake money while when you trade with real money there will be a feeling of anxiety that makes you hesitate to make a decision even though it is actually the right situation that in the end you open a trade at the wrong time or when the moment has been missed and finally lose, meaning that mental and psychological have important benefits to make you not fall into emotions when you lose and also you need to have good confidence and calmness in terms of making decisions.

Yes, it is true that wise traders are those who have a correct and precise understanding that will make them build good planning and management of their finances or trading activities, or simply those who know when to row and when to pull over along with applying many precautions such as stop los or take profit.
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April 10, 2024, 01:51:47 PM
#83
To be fair having this is not that uncommon. I have this too, and not just about trading, whenever it is something about money, whenever I have some trouble, I just end up making mistakes and failing to keep calm. Doesn't mean that I make mistakes, I still do what I should be doing, and even if I profit, that doesn't mean that I feel comfortable about it.

It might not be uncommon but it's something people should be concerned about. If you have a medical condition that gets worsened when you take a lot of stress whether it's because of trading or anything, you need to stop doing that thing even if you are earning money from it because money is not superior to your health. There is no point in earning money if you are then spending that money to cure your illnesses that you have got because of what you do to earn money.

It might not be concerning if it's not something severe just like you mentioned that you do feel stressed and can't stay calm in similar situations but at least it doesn't bother you much, you don't feel like have a heart disease or any other similar disease that might cause serious trouble.

Some people might not understand but such things can also be life-threatening and should be avoided at any cost.
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April 10, 2024, 01:36:35 PM
#82
To be fair having this is not that uncommon. I have this too, and not just about trading, whenever it is something about money, whenever I have some trouble, I just end up making mistakes and failing to keep calm. Doesn't mean that I make mistakes, I still do what I should be doing, and even if I profit, that doesn't mean that I feel comfortable about it.

You can still be worried and fill with anxiety while not making a mistake, that is the important thing about this situation. I am not a terrible trader, not some great one neither but not terrible, if you look at my year to year, I am usually doing fine. But I also have a lot of worry and that usually results with something that would be a lot more important to me, worry is temporary, profit is permeant.
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April 10, 2024, 01:24:58 PM
#81
I always say that trading is not for the faint of heart and tell people to avoid it if they are not fit for it, because it is those who are alive that are trading. Trading is not that child's play, an easy avenue to make money as many influencers would say. It is a tough task that will drag your money and health with you in some cases which will surely cause emotional trauma and other issues if care is not taken. Imagine the person trading with all or almost what he has and the person is hypertensive, this can trigger unforeseen issues that might take his life.

This is why it is often advised that one should trade with the amount that means nothing to them, after all, if you lose such an amount, you will continue your life as though nothing happened. Even if you started trading and can afford a big sum of money, do not rush to invest the money in there but try it with a little amount. Over time, you will know your risk affinity towards trading and what your nature can endure. Upon detection that you have too much reaction towards the money, I advise you to reduce it or quit trading to avoid further issues.
Perhaps, any person willing to go into trading should firstly try with a test or use demo accounts to see if they can grow to meet up and surpass the challenges of emotions and all such variables that may cause heart conditions and anxiety during trade with a loss on the verge.

The wisest traders are often not those who invest alot, but those who have understood and developed the emotional maturity to know how the market works.
They know when to activate stop loss, when to take a break, when to take profit, how much should be traded with; because they have grown thick skin from learning and understanding how their mind and body reacts to making trade decisions.
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April 10, 2024, 06:52:19 AM
#80
Not many traders realize that their trading activities can have a significant impact on their health, especially those who have a history of heart disease. This can be because the market can go up/down and this makes traders worried and stressed - and if this is felt by traders in the long term then this will have a direct impact on their health. Therefore traders should not only care about their trading activities and getting profits from it, but they should also be able to monitor their health regularly and drink enough vitamins and get proper rest if they don't want to die young.
Well, I think things like this are more prone to happening to people who take excessive risks, especially for those who use their main money, or borrow a lot of money to trade. When they get their analysis wrong and cause deep losses to their assets, the first thing that happens is stress. We know that stress can cause other illnesses, especially mental illnesses, and even diseases such as heart disease. This will most likely trigger other diseases. So, I also suggest to traders that always use money that you are willing to lose. Although many people are aware of this, few actually implement it.
Someone to those who are really that being that too emotional are the ones who do really suffer out that kind of anxiety and stress on which this could really be something that bring out that kind of probability
or it would really be happening towards a certain person. This is why it would really be that important that you should really know on that you do invest only on the amount of capital that you could really be able to lose.
The issue of some people is that they do go all in or making use of those life savings on the time that they would really be dealing up with the market on which they would really be having that kind of approach and beliefs into their mind that it was really just that an easy thing for them to be able to handle out.

On the time that they do able to experience out the reality of this unpredictable space, then they cant really be able to bare out when it comes to the volatility that it could have.
Extreme stress and anxiety could really cause up on such condition.
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April 10, 2024, 06:45:45 AM
#79
I always say that trading is not for the faint of heart and tell people to avoid it if they are not fit for it, because it is those who are alive that are trading. Trading is not that child's play, an easy avenue to make money as many influencers would say. It is a tough task that will drag your money and health with you in some cases which will surely cause emotional trauma and other issues if care is not taken. Imagine the person trading with all or almost what he has and the person is hypertensive, this can trigger unforeseen issues that might take his life.

This is why it is often advised that one should trade with the amount that means nothing to them, after all, if you lose such an amount, you will continue your life as though nothing happened. Even if you started trading and can afford a big sum of money, do not rush to invest the money in there but try it with a little amount. Over time, you will know your risk affinity towards trading and what your nature can endure. Upon detection that you have too much reaction towards the money, I advise you to reduce it or quit trading to avoid further issues.
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April 10, 2024, 05:47:07 AM
#78
Not many traders realize that their trading activities can have a significant impact on their health, especially those who have a history of heart disease. This can be because the market can go up/down and this makes traders worried and stressed - and if this is felt by traders in the long term then this will have a direct impact on their health. Therefore traders should not only care about their trading activities and getting profits from it, but they should also be able to monitor their health regularly and drink enough vitamins and get proper rest if they don't want to die young.
Well, I think things like this are more prone to happening to people who take excessive risks, especially for those who use their main money, or borrow a lot of money to trade. When they get their analysis wrong and cause deep losses to their assets, the first thing that happens is stress. We know that stress can cause other illnesses, especially mental illnesses, and even diseases such as heart disease. This will most likely trigger other diseases. So, I also suggest to traders that always use money that you are willing to lose. Although many people are aware of this, few actually implement it.
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