Topic: Any managers lost good posters due recent mass ban? - page 2. (Read 1254 times)

I believe plagiarism is a crime on intellectual property and an offence on the forum. It would have been an easy rank up with the old ranking system of 14 activities every two weeks, that was really a free ride  .

However, such plagiarized ranking up wouldn't have been possible now with the merit system, just thousands of post counts amounting to nothing.

Cellard was a great member of this forum, I'm not certain if he was promoting any of the project. Another user bill gator is too banned till 2021, he was promoting Chipmixer. These are only signature ban.

Some banned users even received alternative with only one-year signature ban. I think it is a fair alternative for death-penalty (permanent ban), so I don't think it is appropriate to ask for another reduced sentence with signature ban. Someone whom ask for such signature ban reduction might see more serious things occur, and I believe they don't expect such more serious sentence after come back from death. Let's use that one or two years to rank up if they have been in lower rank (Senior members, for example). Using one or two years of signature ban to more effectively matured in knowledge, and skils by less distraction from signature and signature benefits. Generally, things will become better if we look at them in positive perspectives.

The current ban of 60 days and 2 years sig ban is appropriate and it's OK for users who did the mistake years ago but I don't like the excuse that they were new in the forum and so it was OK according to them to copy another member's post just to rank up. That's the most silly excuse as none of them are 3-year-old kids. It's just copying in the exam and giving the excuse that they did it to get more marks. There's no one who doesn't know such a simple thing. It's a different thing if they posted a news article and forgot to add a reference but not those copy-paste posts. They can't be considered "good posters".

There is no rule ever regarding Alt accounts. If you mean Alt accounts should have the same Bans imposed then I agree, anything less is Ban evasion. There is nothing stating that in the early days Plagiarism was acceptable, it was less of an issue and not monetized afaik.


We've already seen one, though it wasn't started by a banned user. I believe maybe because some of their chums received the reduced sentence and they still found it harsh.


They do receive the basic message stating "plagiarism or spam". I've seen it mentioned by a Global Mod that it is to labor intensive to give everyone a reference to why they are banned. So for the ones who do create an appeal I've seen staff chime in with why they were banned. Don't forget a lot of those posts wondering why are people who know exactly what they did who try to play some sympathy card or give an improbable explanation.

I think at the very least state the reason why the account has been banned?  I always see posts asking why their old account has been banned from the forum (hence I assume that no one will state the reason of banning your account the moment you are banned?)

Then, now they (unbanned users) started to ask for reduce sentences of their signature bans. It is a basic greedy instinct of human. We might see a new wave of suggestion topics on reduction of signature ban period.

I saw some good posters that are unban, they are still good posters even without signature.
This is a kind action by the mods in the forum, and with the number of members here in the forum, I don't think campaign managers will not be able to find good posters. People change, there are people that are shit posters and become decent posters, and vice versa.

For me, I don't see this a major problem of the campaign manager as they can hire limited participants with increase number of post.

Interesting. By the logic proposed here, known old alt accounts should get a red tag too since "the early days are different" reason is not acceptable.

Mind boggling but I've seen similar tantrums thrown in real life, generally resulting in a harsher penalty. Unfortunately I agree with you, and the ones who are here solely for the earnings will probably be back under some guise whether their account is jailed or dead. I am hoping that in the same way Cryptios is handling accounts they may catch a few ban evasions while their at it (I have no idea how difficult this would be). Sad fact is that a lot of these accounts might change hands over the next 2 years because they can be sold as "broken with potential to earn". I try to focus more on the brightspots though, that have received leniency and are back like nothing happened (minus signature) contributing to the community.

That's what is happening. I believe at least one user received their temp ban and signature ban instantly as opposed to having to appeal. Then if you check around you can see users receiving their sentences reduced after review. It's actually working out rather well from what I can see.

I can say that not of all members are good at the beginning, people are just trying to make an easy way to rank up. Way back those years, ranking up is a really big thing, people rushin' their posts to have at least 14 activities per 2 weeks.

For me, it's just a mistake, they should verify when does the plagiarism happen. Those legendaries and heroes are already contributed a lot of threads that might help the future generation of this community. They will be forgotten forever because of a single mistake that happened at the beginning of your journey. Well, if that's the decision of the higher-ups, we can't do anything but follow and be a responsible member of this community.


Agree, this community has a lot of topics/discussion that might help our community. I think they will come back without persuading them here just for discussions. They know themselves the benefit of this forum and I know they needed it. Even I will do the same, this forum is already a part of my life, there's is something missing if I didn't visit this forum daily.

Many good poster got lesser penalty due to their contribution on this forum,but its surprising for me that even good posters were did copy paste few years back.

There are always exceptions, like @redsn0w, whom likely the first one get alternative ban rather than permanent ban. Redsn0w maybe the first one changed theymos' thoughts on permanent bans. However, I agreed that such cases are very scarce.

People will still complain. Seen a couple already (or alts/friends of users). They may have had the death sentence overturned but they've still got a year or two in jail and that's going to be a loss of earnings for a year as well which will be the only motivation many people who get caught plagiarising are here for. Many will still be happy to have access to their accounts but for the vast majority of people they're probably only here to earn so it's as good as or at least for the duration of their ban. I can't see many people who get a ban sticking around and posting much when they can't monetise doing so. Maybe a few posts here and there to collect activity and keep the account ticking over but more often than not I'd bet most accounts will become very inactive unless they have other business here.


I doubt he is one. I'd say it's more likely he's had an account banned previously. There's definitely no shortage of decent posters to choose from but looks like this is the excuse he's going to run with rather than the truth of what really is bothering him.

I hope this brings home to members that "a sig is for life, and not just for Christmas".

Now that the forum is becoming a cleaner and healthier place, lets all work together to attract some new healthy blood, and also perhaps we can persuade some of the former members to return and contribute to some of the discussions.

For one there are still a lot of members eligible for campaigns. I'm not sure on the numbers but this cleaning house might be beneficial to all those who didn't break the rules. There are now more spots available for campaigns, maybe now instead of the "quickest to apply for a job"  there will be a longer application period and higher quality - I'd love to have no Sig spam to report but doubt it will get there.

I have no idea how managers earn their wage, but if it has anything to do with just making sure you've filled the spots then that was the issue; not users being banned. So it just means put in some effort and find quality participants. If you think there aren't enough raise the payment to attract members... you now like competition in the market.


The CM campaign is already over capacity, and has been for a while as they expanded the list to allow for some special applications overtime. They are also a bad example to compare other campaigns with, they are the longest running I believe and most weeks out of the year the highest paying, hence the rank requirements - which earn a flat rate regardless of actual rank.

Most other campaigns do accept as low as member, it's been a while since I've checked. A lot of those campaigns though being poorly managed were bringing these plagiarists and spammers here to earn. Not saying we shouldn't allow lower ranks in but managers need to be more diligent. Like "hilarious" mentions theymos has mentioned "Sigs" could disappear one day, theymos has stated he finds them distasteful. So it's a case of people need to be doing their part to not abuse a system, and ensure we try and ensure the quality of the forum, without forcing Admins to step in with sweeping policy changes.


I don't think most people have an issue with this. I'd argue most of the members who receive the reduced punishment, will happily accept this. I'm interested to see how many people do continue to post and remain active, even if it's at a reduced rate, these are the people I want to see stick around. Like you said this was a huge step forward in having a sliding scale of appropriate punishment, what are the odds any of these members would be here at all if they hadn't flown under the radar a few years back.

In your post history , I am not able to find which bounty campaign you are managing. 
But still I do not think we have lost many good members but few good members and I hope they will be unbanned soon.

What list is this and can we see it?




That's a funny joke. Do you have any more? Have you had accounts banned personally? You only seem to pop up to complain about sig bans  . The problem here for a long time has been campaign managers aren't doing their job properly if at all and hence why we have such a huge problem with spam in the first place. If every campaign manager here did an exemplary job then we would have little issue with spam in the first place.


Sorry, which campaign manager are you again? If you feel like certain people are worthy of hiring then hire them for something else. Plenty of job opportunities here other than merely posting. Honestly, I'm not sure what we can do here because we're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't. We changed the rule to give people a second chance and people are still complaining. Maybe if the people who have sig bans stick around and contribute actively and continue to receive merit then we can consider reducing the sig ban, but the fact that we've even started giving people second chances should be applauded because prior to this it was a death sentence for life. We accepted that was harsh in certain cases and have relaxed the rule. I really wish people just weren't so lazy and entitled that they decided to copy and paste in the first place and then none of this would need to have happened in the first place. People should see signature campaigns as the blessing that they are because there's going to be a whole lot of people who miss them if we ever ban signature campaigns outright and that's certainly always an option and one theymos has considered.


I'm sure there are many users who have gone through their post history and deleted most or even all of their plagiarised content. I've seen people admit they've deleted their unsubstantial posts before. It would be quite a job to remember or find every single post they copied so I'm sure they'd miss some, especially if they've got thousands of posts. The bots that are running now are less forgetful though.

Or they also can increase his payment rate and motivate people to join in his campaigns. It is a free market.

If we think rationally, there are thousands of legendaries and hero's over here. I do believe that most of them are in-active but there also are some who are giving their best and contributing towards the growth of this forum. You might always have much better and wise choices who can meet your requirements.

The one's who are banned deserves that not because of their current behavior but due to silly mistakes made by them in the past. Copy-paste is never tolerated on the forum and it always ends up in getting permanently banned.