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Quote from: lexele on September 02, 2018, 02:55:24 PM

I stopped using power play tables since 18+ drivers. overdriventool is enough to achieve full hashrate at 165W with vega 64 and modified vega 56.
clock: set to 1600, voltage set to 850mV
mem: set to 1100, voltage set to 860mV
real clock is 1400 to 1500 depending of the card ; real voltage: 885 mV; shown in GPUZ.

4 cards rig is at 700W, system uses roughly 35W

This sounds like you still need PPT. Assuming a proper setup w/ PPT, actual voltage has historically *always* been lower than set voltage by at least 7-15mv, due to droop. A higher actual voltage vs what you set is exactly what you would have seen in the past w/o PPT, because your <=P5 voltages were fixed, and higher than your P6/7. Only thing is, those lower state defaults were usually much higher than 900-ish mv, so something strange is going on.

Also, a drop from 1.6 GHz to 1.4-1.5 indicates you are significantly off on your power vs frequency settings. Your card is being throttled because it doesn't have enough power, and sooner or later that will lead to instability. You definitely want to minimize that difference between actual and set frequency, by either increasing power, or reducing frequency. In the past, I've found that a proper ratio is around 1500 +/- 25 MHz for 900 +/- 15 mv

i notice something strange
when undervolting, at 900mv it use 115w in gpu-z for monero but if i add powerlimit -10 or -15 power goes up to 165w and the gpu clock drop a bit and hasrate also a bit, it also use more power at the wall

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Your card is being throttled because it doesn't have enough power, and sooner or later that will lead to instability

that make no cense, why should it be lead to instability ??

powerlimit is made to limit lol, it s normal gpu clock get up and down, and for doing monero no need full speed but going below 1350 decrease the speed

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Quote from: lexele on September 02, 2018, 02:55:24 PM

I stopped using power play tables since 18+ drivers. overdriventool is enough to achieve full hashrate at 165W with vega 64 and modified vega 56.
clock: set to 1600, voltage set to 850mV
mem: set to 1100, voltage set to 860mV
real clock is 1400 to 1500 depending of the card ; real voltage: 885 mV; shown in GPUZ.

4 cards rig is at 700W, system uses roughly 35W

This sounds like you still need PPT. Assuming a proper setup w/ PPT, actual voltage has historically *always* been lower than set voltage by at least 7-15mv, due to droop. A higher actual voltage vs what you set is exactly what you would have seen in the past w/o PPT, because your <=P5 voltages were fixed, and higher than your P6/7. Only thing is, those lower state defaults were usually much higher than 900-ish mv, so something strange is going on.

Also, a drop from 1.6 GHz to 1.4-1.5 indicates you are significantly off on your power vs frequency settings. Your card is being throttled because it doesn't have enough power, and sooner or later that will lead to instability. You definitely want to minimize that difference between actual and set frequency, by either increasing power, or reducing frequency. In the past, I've found that a proper ratio is around 1500 +/- 25 MHz for 900 +/- 15 mv

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 11, 2018, 01:54:04 PM

Quote from: esparpiri on September 11, 2018, 12:45:37 PM

Quote from: swogerino on September 11, 2018, 11:10:01 AM

Vegas are the only profitable choice out there in Gpu mining. I mean truly profitable as there are many other cards which can give you a low profit by mining with them but Vegas are doing great and I think are the only cards to make 0.16 mBTC as a minimum per card daily.

You can buy them now or just wait a little bit as the prices of all graphic cards are going down on ebay very fast , with prices dropping every day. You can build a 6 cards miner cheaper now than it used to be in the beginning of this year.

but do you thing its better to buy them use or to pay 380$ for a new one?

new with 3 years warranty is very tempting I got 4 like that.

If you can find 380 dollars for a new one then that is the best you can do. Still it is a great idea to get used Vega cards if that is your only option as they seem to be the most profitable cards at the moment. Either way you can't go wrong with them and if the developers of Monero keep their idea of decentralisation by forking against ASICS like they already did and will continue to do so.

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Quote from: esparpiri on September 11, 2018, 12:45:37 PM

Quote from: swogerino on September 11, 2018, 11:10:01 AM

Vegas are the only profitable choice out there in Gpu mining. I mean truly profitable as there are many other cards which can give you a low profit by mining with them but Vegas are doing great and I think are the only cards to make 0.16 mBTC as a minimum per card daily.

You can buy them now or just wait a little bit as the prices of all graphic cards are going down on ebay very fast , with prices dropping every day. You can build a 6 cards miner cheaper now than it used to be in the beginning of this year.

but do you thing its better to buy them use or to pay 380$ for a new one?

new with 3 years warranty is very tempting I got 4 like that.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 11, 2018, 11:10:01 AM

Vegas are the only profitable choice out there in Gpu mining. I mean truly profitable as there are many other cards which can give you a low profit by mining with them but Vegas are doing great and I think are the only cards to make 0.16 mBTC as a minimum per card daily.

You can buy them now or just wait a little bit as the prices of all graphic cards are going down on ebay very fast , with prices dropping every day. You can build a 6 cards miner cheaper now than it used to be in the beginning of this year.

but do you thing its better to buy them use or to pay 380$ for a new one?

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Vegas are the only profitable choice out there in Gpu mining. I mean truly profitable as there are many other cards which can give you a low profit by mining with them but Vegas are doing great and I think are the only cards to make 0.16 mBTC as a minimum per card daily.

You can buy them now or just wait a little bit as the prices of all graphic cards are going down on ebay very fast , with prices dropping every day. You can build a 6 cards miner cheaper now than it used to be in the beginning of this year.

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Quote from: chup on September 11, 2018, 01:34:35 AM

Quote from: esparpiri on September 10, 2018, 11:56:46 PM

Hi people, what do you think about this, I have an opportunity to buy 6 Vegas, 6 Rx Vega 56 power color red dragons or 4 Rx Vega 56 red dragon and 2 Rx Vega 64 RED DEVIL they cost 399$ for the red dragons rx 56 and 499$ for the red devils 64, I know that Rx 56 its better price/performance but the 64 can have better resale value and its the RED DEVIL that has better cooling and triple bios, so what do you thing? what would be the difference in mining out of the 2 in different algorithms not only cryptonight?

Buy those that will drop the price for 150$ from stated.

what do you mean? i dont understand

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Quote from: esparpiri on September 10, 2018, 11:56:46 PM

Hi people, what do you think about this, I have an opportunity to buy 6 Vegas, 6 Rx Vega 56 power color red dragons or 4 Rx Vega 56 red dragon and 2 Rx Vega 64 RED DEVIL they cost 399$ for the red dragons rx 56 and 499$ for the red devils 64, I know that Rx 56 its better price/performance but the 64 can have better resale value and its the RED DEVIL that has better cooling and triple bios, so what do you thing? what would be the difference in mining out of the 2 in different algorithms not only cryptonight?

Buy those that will drop the price for 150$ from stated.

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Hi people, what do you think about this, I have an opportunity to buy 6 Vegas, 6 Rx Vega 56 power color red dragons or 4 Rx Vega 56 red dragon and 2 Rx Vega 64 RED DEVIL they cost 399$ for the red dragons rx 56 and 499$ for the red devils 64, I know that Rx 56 its better price/performance but the 64 can have better resale value and its the RED DEVIL that has better cooling and triple bios, so what do you thing? what would be the difference in mining out of the 2 in different algorithms not only cryptonight?

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Amd RX Vega is best for cryptonight mining, I can't say about ETH but with cryptonight it can easily archive 2000h/s with castxmr miner.

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Quote from: m.vina on September 02, 2018, 08:09:02 PM

Stopped using power play tables?

Do the 18+ drivers allow you to change voltage on lower P states? As far as i know i've been using the power play tables and overdriventool to keep the power consumption down. Not needing the power play tables is new to me.

Yeh, I've seen this posted a few places about not needing PPT anymore. So if I delete that reg key there's no impact? I don't get that.

Quote from: lexele on September 02, 2018, 02:55:24 PM

I stopped using power play tables since 18+ drivers. overdriventool is enough to achieve full hashrate at 165W with vega 64 and modified vega 56.
clock: set to 1600, voltage set to 850mV
mem: set to 1100, voltage set to 860mV
real clock is 1400 to 1500 depending of the card ; real voltage: 885 mV; shown in GPUZ.

4 cards rig is at 700W, system uses roughly 35W

What is your modified 56? Did you flash the bios to 64? Love to see your OverdriveNT settings for the 56.

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Quote from: lexele on September 02, 2018, 02:55:24 PM

I stopped using power play tables since 18+ drivers. overdriventool is enough to achieve full hashrate at 165W with vega 64 and modified vega 56.
clock: set to 1600, voltage set to 850mV
mem: set to 1100, voltage set to 860mV
real clock is 1400 to 1500 depending of the card ; real voltage: 885 mV; shown in GPUZ.

4 cards rig is at 700W, system uses roughly 35W

Stopped using power play tables?

Do the 18+ drivers allow you to change voltage on lower P states? As far as i know i've been using the power play tables and overdriventool to keep the power consumption down. Not needing the power play tables is new to me.

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Thanks for this info, i will give it a try

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I stopped using power play tables since 18+ drivers. overdriventool is enough to achieve full hashrate at 165W with vega 64 and modified vega 56.
clock: set to 1600, voltage set to 850mV
mem: set to 1100, voltage set to 860mV
real clock is 1400 to 1500 depending of the card ; real voltage: 885 mV; shown in GPUZ.

4 cards rig is at 700W, system uses roughly 35W

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I started this thread last year and never purchased a vega. Grin

But I got some deals on this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078DZR5YK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I now have 3 and a thread ripper 1920x.

I am doing 1750 x 3 = 5250 + 825 = 6075 using about 770 watts

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My best rates for a single card.

Vega 56 drivers 18.8.1 - XMR-Stak - Windows 10 - XMR - Monero CNv7
OC with power play tables and overdriveNTool
Mem 1100
Clock 950
Temp - 55-60c - ambient room temp doesn't help 65-70f
No killowat meter to test power draw , yet.

10s - 1920/hs
60s - 1940/hs
15m - 1950/hs

Results
2141/2141 accepted shares - No Rejects!

My AMD.txt
"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: gfx900 memory:3920
  // compute units: 56
  { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 1932, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : 0, "strided_index" : true, "mem_chunk" : 2, "comp_mode" : false },
  { "index" : 0, "intensity" : 1932, "worksize" : 8, "affine_to_cpu" : 0, "strided_index" : true, "mem_chunk" : 2, "comp_mode" : false },
],

Running stable for the past week or so at this rate with no hashrate drops

https://imgur.com/a/WeHNhGX

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did you flash your bios with rx 64?

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May someone share power consumption with and without power safe tables tweak?

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Did anybody test the hashrate of Vega 56/64 with new 18.8.1 drivers?

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Quote from: Tidsdilatation on July 06, 2018, 01:09:52 PM

Hi guys.

I got a question, is there anyone here that has managed to combind a rig with both rx 580s and Vega 64 in one rig? I know AMD has issues with stability etc, and i dont want to buy more 580s since they are not very good at cryptonight heavy. I want to start using Vegas.

Thank you.

Yeah you can combine them just fine.

Thank you for the information, ill start buying them

they are far more cost effective

I know this is a bit old, but OPs premise is just wrong. 580s (esp w/ 8G mem) are slightly *better* on heavy than v7 (went from ~1.03 to 1.08 KH/s.) Vegas (except FEs w/ their 16G mem) are significantly *worse* on heavy than v7 (went from 2.15 to 1.65 KH/s)

If you're into heavy, you want 580s. If you're into v7 or lite, you want vegas.

And mixing is not a problem from a technical standpoint - have plenty of rigs like that.

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Hashrate 1900 Hash/s
Algorithm CryptoNote
Manufacturer Gigabyte
Power Consumption 165
Core Clock 1407 MHz
Memory Clock 1100 MHz
OS Linux

Description
The Gigabyte RX Vega 56 provides hashrate of 1900 Hash/s for CryptoNote at Coreclock 1407 MHz and Memoryclock 1100 MHz while consuming 165 watts.

Gpu Specs

The AMD RX Vega 56 is a graphics card by AMD. It comes with HBM2 memory and has 2048 bit memory interface or bus width.

Inside RX Vega 56 there is an Vega 10 graphics processor chip which has 3584 shaders. The base operating core clock speed of RX Vega 56 is 1471 MHz and memory clock speed is 800 MHz.

For rendering purpose it comes with 64 render output unit's and 224 texture mapping unit's.

Here are the links fore more guidance

https://miningchamp.com/gpus/141/MSI-RX-VEGA-56-hashrate
https://miningchamp.com/gpus/139/Gigabyte-RX-Vega-56-hashrate

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