That means 100x your money, wich seems unrealistic for the period of time. But 20x sounds very reasonable to me, since coins like Ethereum did it in a year. The results also depends on the percentage of alts and bitcoins you are holding.
If you're willing to hold until 2025, it's unnecessary risk to hold too many alts, since Bitcoin would be enough to give great results.
Topic: Anybody with $10,000 worth of BTC+Alts today should be a Millionnaire in 2025 - page 2. (Read 6299 times)
August 10, 2017, 05:02:34 PM
August 10, 2017, 04:55:12 PM
I believe that most of the altcoins will not be exist in 2025 and bitcoin was only a try for blockchain system. So expecting something for 2025 for todays cryptocurrencies is very risky. I wouldnt make any so far long term investment in cryptoworld.
August 10, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
These people can't forget such silly things. Let's say much people will try their best to collect 10 000$ and invest in bitcoin. Also waiting for 8 year is not hard for such a great profit. As everyone knows, bitcoin price can fall as it can to rise. Now we see good rise but it's not infinitive, maybe we will see shit fall in 1 year or even in some month, it is bitcoin's nature. So I am afraid that some people will read this title and really invest so huge money in btc, maybe they will be luckier and really get a good profit but for me it's really hard task.
August 10, 2017, 04:23:29 PM
Not quite noob 
Anyone who spends 10 grand today on inflated shitcoins is a fucking retard.
Do I have to explain why or was the words NOOB and inflated a clue?
Oh and do the math.. Bank investment would give you a guaranteed safe return.
Start using a toilet pajeets
@OP
I'm not saying you are stupid but.. It is your name LOL
Anyone who spends 10 grand today on inflated shitcoins is a fucking retard.
Do I have to explain why or was the words NOOB and inflated a clue?
Oh and do the math.. Bank investment would give you a guaranteed safe return.
Start using a toilet pajeets
@OP
I'm not saying you are stupid but.. It is your name LOL
Maybe $10k worth of BTC and LTC lol
Not sure about LTC... fork-coins are not the new hype anymore imho.
August 10, 2017, 03:42:09 PM
Not quite noob
Anyone who spends 10 grand today on inflated shitcoins is a fucking retard.
Do I have to explain why or was the words NOOB and inflated a clue?
Oh and do the math.. Bank investment would give you a guaranteed safe return.
Start using a toilet pajeets
@OP
I'm not saying you are stupid but.. It is your name LOL
Anyone who spends 10 grand today on inflated shitcoins is a fucking retard.
Do I have to explain why or was the words NOOB and inflated a clue?
Oh and do the math.. Bank investment would give you a guaranteed safe return.
Start using a toilet pajeets
@OP
I'm not saying you are stupid but.. It is your name LOL
Maybe $10k worth of BTC and LTC lol
August 10, 2017, 03:23:49 PM
From the market cap point of view, it's true that coins still have a lot of room to develop.
The tricky question is which coin will survive in the end? If we make one step wrong, it can be quite a big loss.
The tricky question is which coin will survive in the end? If we make one step wrong, it can be quite a big loss.
August 10, 2017, 03:03:44 PM
Kind of depends which altcoins you have... Most of them are going to crash and burn over next 10 years
Over the next 3 years!!
Yes that ist the correct timeframe when a major clean out will happen. Just wait for the amount of new coins to come when Atomic swapping is operational.
I don't even think that some scammy and useless altcoins will survive for 3 more years. Most of the weak ones will be diminished in the crypto market before 2019. The rest, icluding real funtional coins, will maintain with bitcoin.
August 10, 2017, 02:49:09 PM
How the hell would you NOOBS know you just got here.
What is it you think you know about this stuff and economics in general.
Heard of a guy named Greenspan who crashed the entire planets economy by doing no regulations?
Yup we still have mass inflation and plenty of damage done from whole governments to people who lost their homes or savings.
You pajeets are stupid and blind and know fuck all.
You are lining up to sign your name on this topic like idiots.
Chanting buy teh ICO coinz fer the ROI'S cuz we gonna be millionaires!
What gonna play the some card again?
Jesus fucking christ does that clichéd silly ass bullshit retort get old.
Yeah? Like what?
Ethereum itself is a scam dumb fucks so what does that tell you about crypto when it's ranked the no. 1 Altcoin?
Your ponzi pushers..
Spewing idiotic crap to make Bitcoin.
That is all there is to it.
What is it you think you know about this stuff and economics in general.
Heard of a guy named Greenspan who crashed the entire planets economy by doing no regulations?
Yup we still have mass inflation and plenty of damage done from whole governments to people who lost their homes or savings.
You pajeets are stupid and blind and know fuck all.
You are lining up to sign your name on this topic like idiots.
Chanting buy teh ICO coinz fer the ROI'S cuz we gonna be millionaires!
What gonna play the some card again?
Jesus fucking christ does that clichéd silly ass bullshit retort get old.
Yeah? Like what?
Ethereum itself is a scam dumb fucks so what does that tell you about crypto when it's ranked the no. 1 Altcoin?
Your ponzi pushers..
Spewing idiotic crap to make Bitcoin.
That is all there is to it.
August 10, 2017, 08:17:31 AM
A x130 increase sounds great, but with x40 I would already be extremely happy 
August 10, 2017, 07:18:26 AM
I'm quite confident too that in 5 years from now 10 000$ worth of crypto can lead to a million. However, the hardest part will be fluctuation.
Ex: Next boom value go up to 100 000$, then drop to 40 000$ --->>Panic will get many sell here.
Inside on 5 years i dont think so that we would able to reach such heights and its really high too consider and not realistic at all but possibilities are always there since we wont really know on what would be the potential price of bitcoin on upcoming years to come to us. We would really able to witness its progress as the time goes by and hopefully it would progress even more and we would able to see those numbers. Ex: Next boom value go up to 100 000$, then drop to 40 000$ --->>Panic will get many sell here.
August 10, 2017, 07:02:09 AM
Depends which Bitcoin alternative over 90% will fall on the wayside.
Once upon a time Terracoin, Peercoin (revolutionary first pos), Worldcoin, CHNCoin, Auroracoin............ where top coins, modern top coins are no different.
With everything and anything, what is it backed by?
Once upon a time Terracoin, Peercoin (revolutionary first pos), Worldcoin, CHNCoin, Auroracoin............ where top coins, modern top coins are no different.
With everything and anything, what is it backed by?
August 10, 2017, 06:49:33 AM
I'm quite confident too that in 5 years from now 10 000$ worth of crypto can lead to a million. However, the hardest part will be fluctuation.
Ex: Next boom value go up to 100 000$, then drop to 40 000$ --->>Panic will get many sell here.
Ex: Next boom value go up to 100 000$, then drop to 40 000$ --->>Panic will get many sell here.
August 10, 2017, 05:11:51 AM
Provocative title... but so true...
Today, the market cap off all the Cryptos is north of $100B.
It is EXTREMELY low compared to the values seen in the tech world (except for some shady ICOs ;-) )
In details, Bitcoin counts for $50B mk, and if we only take the top20 alts, we are at roughly $45B mk to add, the rest being peanuts.
If we take the biggest financial places in the world:
NYSE = $16T
NASDAQ = $7.4T
...
...
KOREA Exchange = $1.3T
... etc.
http://money.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-stock-exchanges-by-size/
There are 60 major exchanges in the world, with a mk of $70 Trillion ($70,000 Billion!)
There are lots of sh1t companies listed to the stock exchanges as there are lots of sh1tcoins on the alts-market, it's a "reasonable" statement to compare them as they both deal with a wide array of technology companies.
-> That means a market cap of cca. $13 Trillion to reach for the crypto market. Doable, at least on paper.
Compared vs today, that is a x130 factor vs. the current market cap of the "BTC+ALTS world"
That said, if you have $10,000 worth of BTC+ALTs, you should end with $1.3M in the next years if the market raises to the aforementioned levels.
Of course, not ALL your coins will raise, and you may lose a significant part of your portfolio... but even if 30% goes to dust (or to exchanges...), you should end up with the magic 7-figure.
Your thoughts?
P.S.: if we assume that BTC will continue to trust the top and will account for at least 30%-40% of the total marketcap, it means a BTC mk at cca $5Trillion
with 21M coins, that is $250,000 per coin. John McAffee is just x2 more bullish but we are in the same realm of figures; and he could be right...
Today, the market cap off all the Cryptos is north of $100B.
It is EXTREMELY low compared to the values seen in the tech world (except for some shady ICOs ;-) )
In details, Bitcoin counts for $50B mk, and if we only take the top20 alts, we are at roughly $45B mk to add, the rest being peanuts.
If we take the biggest financial places in the world:
NYSE = $16T
NASDAQ = $7.4T
...
...
KOREA Exchange = $1.3T
... etc.
http://money.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-stock-exchanges-by-size/
There are 60 major exchanges in the world, with a mk of $70 Trillion ($70,000 Billion!)
There are lots of sh1t companies listed to the stock exchanges as there are lots of sh1tcoins on the alts-market, it's a "reasonable" statement to compare them as they both deal with a wide array of technology companies.
-> That means a market cap of cca. $13 Trillion to reach for the crypto market. Doable, at least on paper.
Compared vs today, that is a x130 factor vs. the current market cap of the "BTC+ALTS world"
That said, if you have $10,000 worth of BTC+ALTs, you should end with $1.3M in the next years if the market raises to the aforementioned levels.
Of course, not ALL your coins will raise, and you may lose a significant part of your portfolio... but even if 30% goes to dust (or to exchanges...), you should end up with the magic 7-figure.
Your thoughts?
P.S.: if we assume that BTC will continue to trust the top and will account for at least 30%-40% of the total marketcap, it means a BTC mk at cca $5Trillion
with 21M coins, that is $250,000 per coin. John McAffee is just x2 more bullish but we are in the same realm of figures; and he could be right...
I will be very happy if this is true, but unfortunately you are comparing apple to orange.
August 10, 2017, 03:47:45 AM
There are actually a few that will be standing out from the rest in the next 3 years. Those alt coins related to infrastructure may take more time, application wise probably lesser.
However all these will only matter when the masses storm in the cryptocurrencies. It is still a horse race at this point and we can only speculate. If your speculation is correct you may hit a jackpot and timing is crucial.
Everyone is speculating but not everyone is rich right.
So your choices will basically determine where you stand in the next few years. Yes, in the next few years is when the crypto currency community will mature (we just past newborn category imo).
Decisions, pov's of a matured community will be less riskier and will go for a solid project. Therefore those projects will good roadmap will survive. But i am not sure of all the others.
What you hold now is very crucial as the price of bitcoin will skyrocket further making the holdings lesser and lesser. With lesser bitcoins in hand, your decision may backfire if you make the wrong choices.
Therefore keep studying the coins you are investing in.
However all these will only matter when the masses storm in the cryptocurrencies. It is still a horse race at this point and we can only speculate. If your speculation is correct you may hit a jackpot and timing is crucial.
Everyone is speculating but not everyone is rich right.
So your choices will basically determine where you stand in the next few years. Yes, in the next few years is when the crypto currency community will mature (we just past newborn category imo).
Decisions, pov's of a matured community will be less riskier and will go for a solid project. Therefore those projects will good roadmap will survive. But i am not sure of all the others.
What you hold now is very crucial as the price of bitcoin will skyrocket further making the holdings lesser and lesser. With lesser bitcoins in hand, your decision may backfire if you make the wrong choices.
Therefore keep studying the coins you are investing in.
August 10, 2017, 02:37:04 AM
Kind of depends which altcoins you have... Most of them are going to crash and burn over next 10 years
Over the next 3 years!!
Yes that ist the correct timeframe when a major clean out will happen.
August 10, 2017, 12:41:38 AM
You guys need to look at why the price of altcoins go up.
And what it takes for the prices to keep rising for 8 straight years LOL
It's about people.
With out an ever expanding user base that is not possible.
The reality is a new coin is made every few minutes so the market dilution is at odds with enough people to buy them all at.. And here is the kicker.. A greater and greater price.
Apparently you noob pajeets are willing to spend literally any amount of real money on any shitcoin.. While the dev who got free coins laughs to the bank.
Imagine how hard Butters is laughing as ETH rises to $500 a coin
Try being smart and realistic.. And maybe even honest.
Historically we seen altcoins rise.. Briefly.
Not.. Keep shooting upwards for 8 straight years.
You NOOBS were not here after the shitcoin recession after 2013.
It was users leaving and cashing out.
It happens and this topic ignores that completely.
You guys don't have a clue what you are talking about.
You are NOOBS that did not do your crypto homework.
It says legendary, but I haven't seen one optimistic or non-troll post from you... What are you doing?And what it takes for the prices to keep rising for 8 straight years LOL
It's about people.
With out an ever expanding user base that is not possible.
The reality is a new coin is made every few minutes so the market dilution is at odds with enough people to buy them all at.. And here is the kicker.. A greater and greater price.
Apparently you noob pajeets are willing to spend literally any amount of real money on any shitcoin.. While the dev who got free coins laughs to the bank.
Imagine how hard Butters is laughing as ETH rises to $500 a coin
Try being smart and realistic.. And maybe even honest.
Historically we seen altcoins rise.. Briefly.
Not.. Keep shooting upwards for 8 straight years.
You NOOBS were not here after the shitcoin recession after 2013.
It was users leaving and cashing out.
It happens and this topic ignores that completely.
You guys don't have a clue what you are talking about.
You are NOOBS that did not do your crypto homework.
There was almost one million accounts created between mine and yours noob.
You also push a confirmed scam with a sig campaign.
You also had literally nothing to contribute to the topic at hand.
Your opinion of me or anything for that matter is pure dog shit.
So good luck with your "investment" junior.
Oh and see any Legendary accounts agreeing with the topic title?
No?
Hmm I wonder why.. But do you?
Well if we should beleive that you are a "legendary" poster then we can assume we shouldn't trust anything you say for the same reason.. so there's that.
I was a legend before I got the forum rank.
Did you have anything to say about the topic though noob?
So yeah.. There's that
August 06, 2017, 05:31:58 PM
I think $10k today could foreseeably turn into $1 million in ten years. It would take a 77% compound interest rate over the course of 8 years. Very doable but I wouldn't count on it, lol.
Also if you want to take crypto seriously you should file tax reports every year. I beleive it is 30% in my country so that mil is gonna have to wait a bit longer i think :-)
August 06, 2017, 04:49:15 PM
I think $10k today could foreseeably turn into $1 million in ten years. It would take a 77% compound interest rate over the course of 8 years. Very doable but I wouldn't count on it, lol.
August 06, 2017, 04:12:25 PM
You guys need to look at why the price of altcoins go up.
And what it takes for the prices to keep rising for 8 straight years LOL
It's about people.
With out an ever expanding user base that is not possible.
The reality is a new coin is made every few minutes so the market dilution is at odds with enough people to buy them all at.. And here is the kicker.. A greater and greater price.
Apparently you noob pajeets are willing to spend literally any amount of real money on any shitcoin.. While the dev who got free coins laughs to the bank.
Imagine how hard Butters is laughing as ETH rises to $500 a coin
Try being smart and realistic.. And maybe even honest.
Historically we seen altcoins rise.. Briefly.
Not.. Keep shooting upwards for 8 straight years.
You NOOBS were not here after the shitcoin recession after 2013.
It was users leaving and cashing out.
It happens and this topic ignores that completely.
You guys don't have a clue what you are talking about.
You are NOOBS that did not do your crypto homework.
It says legendary, but I haven't seen one optimistic or non-troll post from you... What are you doing?And what it takes for the prices to keep rising for 8 straight years LOL
It's about people.
With out an ever expanding user base that is not possible.
The reality is a new coin is made every few minutes so the market dilution is at odds with enough people to buy them all at.. And here is the kicker.. A greater and greater price.
Apparently you noob pajeets are willing to spend literally any amount of real money on any shitcoin.. While the dev who got free coins laughs to the bank.
Imagine how hard Butters is laughing as ETH rises to $500 a coin
Try being smart and realistic.. And maybe even honest.
Historically we seen altcoins rise.. Briefly.
Not.. Keep shooting upwards for 8 straight years.
You NOOBS were not here after the shitcoin recession after 2013.
It was users leaving and cashing out.
It happens and this topic ignores that completely.
You guys don't have a clue what you are talking about.
You are NOOBS that did not do your crypto homework.
There was almost one million accounts created between mine and yours noob.
You also push a confirmed scam with a sig campaign.
You also had literally nothing to contribute to the topic at hand.
Your opinion of me or anything for that matter is pure dog shit.
So good luck with your "investment" junior.
Oh and see any Legendary accounts agreeing with the topic title?
No?
Hmm I wonder why.. But do you?
Well if we should beleive that you are a "legendary" poster then we can assume we shouldn't trust anything you say for the same reason.. so there's that.
August 06, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
I hope it's true. That would be a hundred fold increase - quite a bit from this point.
I think it's possible though, not out of the realms of possibility.
I think it's possible though, not out of the realms of possibility.
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