Topic: Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? - page 13. (Read 27268 times)

Yeah, they are so right now with 80% correction ,but Bitcoin only goes up, right? LOL!!!!

In some circumstances, which also include financial markets, and especially on the condition that you have a significant deposit, there is no way to get rich quickly. Because it is simply impossible, because there are other laws here. According to them, you always need to spend a certain amount of time in order to achieve your goal, sometimes quite a significant amount of time.

Hodlers have always been right if you go back and look at the charts.  Look at how many 80%+ crashes bitcoin has had and it always recovers and increases exponentially.

Just because we are currently in a bear market people like to yell and scream that holding is terrible advice.  Granted if your able to day trade and call top and bottoms you can make a lot more money but most people are unableto do that.

How can you say that? You did know that longterm is not for loser it's for real investor and holders. And I think theres nothing wrong if we choose a long term in our investment because it will more recommended .

Sadly only about 20x up on my initial outlay these days.

I've booked myself in to Dignitas and have arranged a live feed of my swallowing the required drugs and subsequent frothing at the mouth for you to run your fingers up and down your winkle to. I would consider it a worthy tribute for you to grunt my username as your filthy squirts coat the screen.

he didnt loose money even if the value drops to 1k usd but as long as he would not sell to cut loss .  this year many peeps are expecting that the bull run  will now come becuase of the bakkt and etf/sec aproval  .  other one is the nasdaq thingy  plus many more goodies that will said to come this imcoming months  .  meanwhile , hodlers are not idiot but rather they are our saviors because they save the price so that it wont go down . we'd better give credits to them  , instead of bullying them  .   peace yow   

lol @ coping

But you won't get out and keep holding til it goes to 1000$.

You lost so much money because you DID NOT SELL. Saying you did not lose money because you invested less is delusional. You had such an opportunity and blew it because of moronic MUH HODL

   I can get out today with some profit in my pockets. For me every investment should be long-term, it`s period when you wait something
little to grow up, that takes time. Everything else for me is gambling, speculating, manipulating, you can try to to that, nobody stops you
from that.
   You can criticize long-term holders, it`s your right. But each of us have some strategy, I have my own and I think in some time we will
see who chose better.

Hey hodler tards, how are your long term "investments" doing?

Have you told your family yet how much of a long term thinker you are?

"long term" = I'm an idiot who can't identify bull and bear markets

"hodler" = I'm an idiot who gets married to investments

lol

I'm holding long-term, already paid myself back several times over.
Two things that kept me from trading more.  One is when I tried swing trading I found it stressful and difficult and time consuming.  Second is I am concerned about keeping my BTC on an exchange to be traded.
I guess I'm just an idiot that's too dumb to trade according to the asshole OP.   Seriously fuck you, I hope the exchange you use is hacked and you lose everything.

Tell me, what's the point in gold and other resources? But they are also bought and stored for a long time, and that the price has become smaller? On the contrary, it became higher. But what is a crypto currency is at the moment a certain asset. At the moment, the crypto industry is unregulated and therefore jumps up to heights can be grandiose. And in general, the industry itself is backed by technology. In general, if there is no value to your progress, then you can safely exit the market. Otherwise the crypt currency can become one of the trading tools like any available asset at the moment. But over time, the crypto currency will have other qualities. The fact that bitcoin proshol for the year may not happen in the next 10 years. But something will develop further, and in fact it is!

Nope, in contrast they are the smartest and I salute to their patience because they manage to wait for a longest time in order to get profit. However, you can't just only make a long term investment any time you want because its requiring a huge amount of money in order for your alloted time to be not in vain.

I think holding is not the wrong choice and it's not an idiot thing. people who hold for the long term are certainly optimistic because
they assure their money in bitcoin and are confident that future bitcoin prices will grow high, it's holding very popular today, and that's a good choice..

It good ideas. So hold the bitcoin long time. It any time to increase price. So most of the people hold the coin and wait for the price increase. Bitcoin future digital currency. So it any Time to reach the high values. That the reason people hold the bitcoin. So coming future it help to growth. Most of the country people connect with bitcoin. So people share the information of bitcoin future.

This is such an insanely stupid argument. You have still lost ton of profit on paper by "le hodling xD" and not selling it earlier. If you keep hodling through a bear market you are just a delusional person.

this thread from june is very funny to read now

i am still x50 up just holding btc , yeah what an idiot ahabahahahahaha

For maximum profits it's clear long term holding isn't best, and indefinite holding will leave you with zero. But holding is a strategy that works for many as you have to remember people have different commitments and goals in crypto.

It definitely depends on the investment strategy as we have different needs and plan so I find it better to invest during the dump and also cash out 50 % of funds when the value is at the peak but if we canNot control our emotions during price dump and then end up panic selling then we are losers.

For example:

* The maximum amount you can pay in a certain route is determined by the guy with the LEAST amount of money in his channel
* Users can defraud each other in a channel, so they have to continually check if somebody is defrauding them.
* Unless you have a direct channel to your target, there is NO guarantee AT ALL that you can pay the person you want to pay.
* Users need to be online 24/7 if they want to be part of a payment route. If a user is offline, this particular route is not possible which of course has huge impact on the possible routes.
* Insane amounts of data are being sent because the network needs to be aware of EVERYBODY's payment channel's state (otherwise it can't discover a route)
* You still have huge fees if you want to wire money into/outside the channel.
* It's not feasible at all for bigger payments. Let's say you have to pay $1500 rent/month, are you going to open a payment channel and deposit 3 years rent in it ? Most people have difficulties enough coughing up the next month. But if you have to wire every payment into the channel, then you could just as well pay on-chain because you're paying that exact same on-chain fee.
* It's also not feasible for very small payments/channels. If you open a $30 channel with your coffeeshop to buy a few cups of coffee per week, then the price of your coffee doubles because of the huge fees to open/close the channel.

Smart person who is completely anti cryptocurrencies would be a better description. If bitcoin fails as a payment system then you're right in that it will not survive but what is there to suggest that LN is a joke and won't turn bitcoin back in to a viable option? It's also all well and good people like Warren Buffet can say whatever they like, I very much doubt he has any put options.