Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? - page 9.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 01, 2019, 03:32:21 PM

Quote from: CryptoCounselor on March 01, 2019, 05:11:53 AM

Quote from: DarkIT on March 01, 2019, 04:52:03 AM

of course I don't think like that. I don't know, maybe there are some people who think like that, because the price has dropped so far. well, it's a risk as holders. however, they still have the opportunity to sell it when the price drops.

I can say kinda and for looking at this situation maybe those who say is right, but lets hope that other bad minded guys out there will change views when pump comes and those people who get trap can sell at win nor little loss

Warren Buffet is not stupid for buying cheap and selling expensive. The point of view of an investor is very different from that of a speculator, the speculator always takes profits from the small movements of the market, the investor takes profits in the long term.

Well said, the investors focus will be on the long term profiting. If I'm not wrong the long term holders some times miss the opportunity to profit at the peak expecting a much bigger growth. One such happened with the recent price pumping of bitcoin reaching $20000. Speculators were the one who make a better earning than that of the investor, because the speculator keeps him active in the market and make use of the fluctuations.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on March 01, 2019, 03:32:21 PM

Quote from: CryptoCounselor on March 01, 2019, 05:11:53 AM

Quote from: DarkIT on March 01, 2019, 04:52:03 AM

of course I don't think like that. I don't know, maybe there are some people who think like that, because the price has dropped so far. well, it's a risk as holders. however, they still have the opportunity to sell it when the price drops.

I can say kinda and for looking at this situation maybe those who say is right, but lets hope that other bad minded guys out there will change views when pump comes and those people who get trap can sell at win nor little loss

Warren Buffet is not stupid for buying cheap and selling expensive. The point of view of an investor is very different from that of a speculator, the speculator always takes profits from the small movements of the market, the investor takes profits in the long term.

Well, I don't see your explanation on how you define investors as far as I know we have long term investor and short term investor and not necessarily that who ever invest for a long time that should be referred to as investors the way you put dude.

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Quote from: CryptoCounselor on March 01, 2019, 05:11:53 AM

Quote from: DarkIT on March 01, 2019, 04:52:03 AM

of course I don't think like that. I don't know, maybe there are some people who think like that, because the price has dropped so far. well, it's a risk as holders. however, they still have the opportunity to sell it when the price drops.

I can say kinda and for looking at this situation maybe those who say is right, but lets hope that other bad minded guys out there will change views when pump comes and those people who get trap can sell at win nor little loss

Warren Buffet is not stupid for buying cheap and selling expensive. The point of view of an investor is very different from that of a speculator, the speculator always takes profits from the small movements of the market, the investor takes profits in the long term.

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Quote from: DarkIT on March 01, 2019, 04:52:03 AM

of course I don't think like that. I don't know, maybe there are some people who think like that, because the price has dropped so far. well, it's a risk as holders. however, they still have the opportunity to sell it when the price drops.

I can say kinda and for looking at this situation maybe those who say is right, but lets hope that other bad minded guys out there will change views when pump comes and those people who get trap can sell at win nor little loss

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of course I don't think like that. I don't know, maybe there are some people who think like that, because the price has dropped so far. well, it's a risk as holders. however, they still have the opportunity to sell it when the price drops.

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 25, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.

Many people don't have the option to do daily trading due to lack of information or due to lack of time,
It is a good strategy to follow especially if you don't need cash immediately.
Just think of the people who bought Bitcoin in 2012 and they just hodl it till now. I think that the money that they earned can prove your assumption wrong.

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Quote from: davis196 on March 01, 2019, 02:22:31 AM

Quote from: Sevvero on June 25, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.

Yeah,it's better just to sell all your crypto at a huge loss and start gambling(because it's more profitable). Grin

I was sarcastic,by the way.
I've never wanted to become rich quick with bitcoin,I just wanted to make some bitcoins.If the price goes to 20K USD,I'll be happy,but if it goes back to 1-2K USD,i'm OK with that.

There is truth in your sarcasm, if they don`t like it they can sell and do what ever else they want, crying here about crypto doesn`t change anything for me, for many of us, we will continue to believe and work for it. We all want to get rich somehow, sooner is always better than later when it comes to getting rich, but some people have patience and they don`t fall in depression every time when investment starts going down. I`m ok with any bitcoin price now, I have my amount for trading, and I will trade on any price, profit will be different, but what to do. Other thing is that I have something on a side for future, I believe in bitcoin potential.

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 25, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.

Yeah,it's better just to sell all your crypto at a huge loss and start gambling(because it's more profitable). Grin

I was sarcastic,by the way.
I've never wanted to become rich quick with bitcoin,I just wanted to make some bitcoins.If the price goes to 20K USD,I'll be happy,but if it goes back to 1-2K USD,i'm OK with that.

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I don't think so. There are a lot of people who invested in Bitcoin way back 2009 became millionaire because of their decision. They put faith that it'll be a fruitful be acquired for the future. That's the same perspective of long term holders now. We can't say if they made good or wrong decision or not if they didn't sell lowere than the price the buy it.

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I do not think that Warren Buffet is an idiot for having made operations in the Stock Market that moves very slowly and has been a holder, because he is a millionaire, in the world of cryptocurrency there is that volatility advantage that, being Holder, it is for a long time, in the terms that are long the fortunes that can be given are very impressive.

The market has investors and speculators, and if you want to be a fast millionaire, you're wrong, things are not like that, for that you must work, study the market, until you understand, that way, if you could think of starting to win.

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Longterm is really good and I don't think is an idiots. Do you think those people who invested in the year 2009 are idiots is a big NO because of longterm they eaen a lot of money and most of them become millionaire or billionaires. People choice if they want called longterm and choose longterm.

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This line can be applied to ICO coins hodlers. I always thought that holding long term will bring good return but with different kinds of ICO coins I have waiting and hoping that one day the price will favor me, it is indeed stupid to hold them long but with bitcoin, no. Bitcoin has been proven to be strong and still the king of crypto and by just looking at the history back, it has gained such a credibility to be trusted to and enough to be a reason to hold long term.

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People have different perception towards crypto hodlers. Some might think that these people are crazy or idiot of not selling their crypto holdings when the market is so healthy that would earn them a very big amount of money. But for those who really believe that hodling can give them the best profit they could get in the future, let's just wish them luck.

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Before holding bitcoin for long was one of the major ways we have made money in the past and I didn't think that is going to stop. It is not foolishness to hold an asset for long-term because some investors has made their minds for that already.

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Quote from: Bitcoinsummoner on February 04, 2019, 09:04:41 PM

For the price drops long term investor might be loser but do you think the loss will remain too long. I think once price drop they might be losser but the price will increase and then they will be profitable. And that's why they invest for long time. Okay lets say about short term trader or day trader. Thy might buy and after few minutes its drops then they will be more losers than the long term investors.

Being a long term investor does not mean that he must not take positions according to the market situation, i am a long term holder of bitcoin and i made my profits when the market rallied to all time high valuation, i knew that a big correction was inevitable after a huge rally and i started selling my coins when it touched ten thousand dollars as that was my initial target and sold all my coins after crossing 17k$ because i was expecting a correction anytime but it rallied further, no regrets what so ever for not selling at the peak as it is very difficult to predict when the correction happens. So just take your positions according to the market situation even if your goal is long term.

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Quote from: Bitcoinsummoner on February 12, 2019, 01:58:10 PM

Quote from: Wilhelm on February 06, 2019, 04:08:51 AM

I agree that I am an idiot. Hopefully someday a rich idiot Wink

If long term investors are idiot then I am also an idiot as I am a long term investor. I will only sell once it reach on my dream price. Until the price reach on my dream price I will hold in any cost.

you're right, that also applies to me, and most of the people who are here. I think that can't be said as an idiot, because it's still our choice, and our own will. well, we never knew anything like this would happen, but I don't think that's something idiot

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im not a hodler but im an idiot not only me but all of us in this world are idiot because no one is perfect . we all experience to become an idiot mostly when we are young but eventually as we grow older we can change our mindsets .

Quote from: Wilhelm on February 06, 2019, 04:08:51 AM

I agree that I am an idiot. Hopefully someday a rich idiot Wink

rich idiot is better than poor idiot anyway . lol

Quote from: iMark on February 05, 2019, 12:56:30 AM

back again that everyone has their own plans. not all users like you, by doing cutlose when prices fall and wait for another opportunity to buy at a lower price

doing cut loose is an idiotic move . why would you sell for loss but eventually you will buy again at higher price . why cant you just dont sell at all . you dont loose no matter how the market dumps as long as you didnt touch your coins .

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Quote from: lienfaye on February 13, 2019, 09:03:11 PM

Im a long term hodler but im not an idiot. We have our own reasons why we keep hodling, some investors missed the right timing while others have a target price on when to sell just like me and I dont see anything wrong with that. Atleast we are wise enough not to cut losses just because we are afraid the market wont recover anymore. Patience is the key so if you dont have it then long term hodling is not for you thus dont call hodlers an idiot.

For a long-term investor, patience becomes a very important point. That's why most hodlers are always sure of what they do, it's not without reason because they do the best analysis possible. Indeed there are still failures, but as experience increases, it will make the hodlers better at making decisions.

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Im a long term hodler but im not an idiot. We have our own reasons why we keep hodling, some investors missed the right timing while others have a target price on when to sell just like me and I dont see anything wrong with that. Atleast we are wise enough not to cut losses just because we are afraid the market wont recover anymore. Patience is the key so if you dont have it then long term hodling is not for you thus dont call hodlers an idiot.

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Quote from: keystroke on February 08, 2019, 02:46:58 AM

Quote from: dogtana on February 07, 2019, 02:36:29 PM

Holders may be idiots in the current average mindset of the crypto crowd, but it was traders that crashed the market.

And it was traders that provided the huge run-up.

Buyers did that, not traders.

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