Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? - page 7.

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Quote from: 2chase on April 15, 2019, 04:01:22 AM

I do not consider the term "long-term investor" something not very pleasant. I believe that those people who do not understand the specifics of financial markets poorly are the ones who can see something inappropriate in this term, for me the term "long-term investor" does not mean anything except that a person is an investor.

The long-term investor is the real investor.

A short-term investor is, in fact, a trader. He need to short his assets and rebuy them at lower price, to increase his holdings.

The investor just put his money there and let it go, focusing in other things.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on April 10, 2019, 10:44:32 PM

well, some people might think that those who hold in the long run are idiots. but, when prices get higher, and sell at the right time, they will surely think that they are doing something too late. well, in this case, it's better not to think about what other people think. focus on the strategies that we have made will be better in the future.

If you can make an accurate evaluation instead of keeping it for a long time, you can earn more. If the main goal is profit, long term holding is not solution. As long as you hold it, the time is up.

you are right. maybe it all depends on the conditions. when you are still holding back, but the potential for the coin has disappeared, or has been abandoned by the dev, I think that is the wrong thing to do. but if it does have potential, I think holding in the long run is a good idea.

People who believe that long term is liable aspect to earn massive profits will be given appropriable profits in return. Even if it will take a long time before it will purchase, the assurance of viable profits will laid to your account. But we have to spend a wide patience in accordance to achieve the thrive, if you are anxious of spending time and patience, then do not waste your time to hold before you lose some.

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I do not consider the term "long-term investor" something not very pleasant. I believe that those people who do not understand the specifics of financial markets poorly are the ones who can see something inappropriate in this term, for me the term "long-term investor" does not mean anything except that a person is an investor.

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For me, they are smarter that us. It is very clear that real long term holders are betting on coins that are on the top 20 - 30 in the marketcap. They value is always there for a long time because these wealthy investors know that it has a shot of getting used globally and give them a return much more than what they expected.

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Quote from: mrdeposit on April 14, 2019, 05:47:26 PM

Quote from: Dr.Osh on April 10, 2019, 10:44:32 PM

well, some people might think that those who hold in the long run are idiots. but, when prices get higher, and sell at the right time, they will surely think that they are doing something too late. well, in this case, it's better not to think about what other people think. focus on the strategies that we have made will be better in the future.

If you can make an accurate evaluation instead of keeping it for a long time, you can earn more. If the main goal is profit, long term holding is not solution. As long as you hold it, the time is up.

you are right. maybe it all depends on the conditions. when you are still holding back, but the potential for the coin has disappeared, or has been abandoned by the dev, I think that is the wrong thing to do. but if it does have potential, I think holding in the long run is a good idea.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on April 10, 2019, 10:44:32 PM

well, some people might think that those who hold in the long run are idiots. but, when prices get higher, and sell at the right time, they will surely think that they are doing something too late. well, in this case, it's better not to think about what other people think. focus on the strategies that we have made will be better in the future.

If you can make an accurate evaluation instead of keeping it for a long time, you can earn more. If the main goal is profit, long term holding is not solution. As long as you hold it, the time is up.

Actually depending on the coins you hold, there are coins that will pump 100 times because right now they are still undervalued.
For BTC, we cannot expect it will increase again with that range, but it will grow of course and long term means really long term and we might get bored
due to the fact that the price is also volatile, anytime it could dump and will stay longer before it pump again.

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Quote from: BUK2016 on April 10, 2019, 10:51:29 AM

Am sure your thinking about long term holders is one sided and is the reason you are using such insultive word on long term holders. I know that you didn't take into consideration those who are holders of crypto coins since the year 2013 till this moment, will you still use such word for them or you don't even believe such people exist.

For bitcoin owners who have big capital and want big profits, they will certainly wait for prices to rise as high as possible because they are not burdened with financial problems, and when selling profits they are also big.
This strategy is not an idiot, in my opinion it is smart, but it must have big capital and no need to fear bitcoin. Optimistic and strongly believes bitcoin will become a high-priced digital currency.

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 25, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.

I do not think that long term hodlers are idiots , how come you say that when those people who hodls their bitcoin way back when it is started and then in 2017 where they gained a lot of profits from bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies and it was a long term. Nowadays because of the dip happening in the world of cryptocurrencies hodling for a long term is quite difficult because many have loss their money because of the dip in cryptocurrencies.

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Quote from: Dr.Osh on April 10, 2019, 10:44:32 PM

well, some people might think that those who hold in the long run are idiots. but, when prices get higher, and sell at the right time, they will surely think that they are doing something too late. well, in this case, it's better not to think about what other people think. focus on the strategies that we have made will be better in the future.

If you can make an accurate evaluation instead of keeping it for a long time, you can earn more. If the main goal is profit, long term holding is not solution. As long as you hold it, the time is up.

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Quote from: Ahab_Hunter_of_BearWhale on April 02, 2019, 10:32:10 AM

Keep calm and HODL on Cheesy

You are right, we should hold good item and wait for a good rate & we should not sell until it reach on our goal, it will be a wise decision and for that price also will increase.

Well, I am one of those who thinks holding assets is a pretty good way depending on the conditions. maybe there will be a time when we need to sell some of the assets we have. but, when it hasn't been seen, holding for long periods of time is not stupid thinking.

Great to see that you are on the same point of me regarding holding a item for a long term and also you think they (long term holders) are asset for a project and those can be helpful and also keep it uptrend.

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well, some people might think that those who hold in the long run are idiots. but, when prices get higher, and sell at the right time, they will surely think that they are doing something too late. well, in this case, it's better not to think about what other people think. focus on the strategies that we have made will be better in the future.

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I used to mine BTC when it was 100 or so. Good time but also that costs electricity so I cant just hold it all and ignore the costs to mining. Ideally yea but this requires some resources to do so, people who can elect to hold have other assets and other sources of income. If its just an unbalanced bet then good luck but also that implies the bet is quite small, lucky BTC grew a ton so that too has worked out.
I cant call any of these people especially wrong for doing what was fair on a completely unknown new technology, people have labelled tech share holders idiots also and again thats pretty much incorrect even when the tech boom blew up famously. I know someone who held tech shares since 1995, he has sold some but mostly they were a giant holder relatively and that was really not wrong in any way, giant jump down in 2000/1 but look now, the sector developed and the hold was very valid all this time.

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Quote from: Bitcoinsummoner on April 10, 2019, 12:52:11 AM

Quote from: Ahab_Hunter_of_BearWhale on April 02, 2019, 10:32:10 AM

Keep calm and HODL on Cheesy

You are right, we should hold good item and wait for a good rate & we should not sell until it reach on our goal, it will be a wise decision and for that price also will increase.

From my experience we need to keep hold of the assets for a longer time period, but the same shouldn't be kept idle when it reach a better price. I've done it without understanding about the market, and the same caused me with a big loss. The value of my holding have gone down to 100% and now waiting for such a growth, but there is no positive growth as the one I've missed. Long term holders need to be careful not to miss the right moment.

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 25, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.

Wow didn't read this one yet, one of the most stupid writings on the forum perhaps

I'm a long term HODLer, whats wrong with that, i have bought early 300's so i'm still in good profit, but I still HODL. WHY?

-cause I have a long term thought for the succes of BTC to achieve...
-cause I wanna live with BTC, use it to buy and transact for things, that why I have a cold storage HODL and some BTC for useage
-of-course if i knew 20K was dropping to 3-4K-ish then I would of sold and bought back to have more, but no crystal ball in my possession
-long term HODLer as simultaneity accumulator, so its HODL and buying converting when possible
-Dan Balzerian, like WTF dude are you high and simple minded? "(don't answer, retorical question)
- and so on ..... don't know why spending time on this....

But hey man take it easy and don't mix yourself with BTC, see you later in the damn why didn't I bought and HODLed thread LoL Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Sevvero on June 25, 2017, 02:17:38 PM

Funny how every time the market is in a recession and losers keep holding on to their losses they magically become "long term" holders.

God damn it, "long term" is such a stupid meme. Admit it, you wanted to get rich quick and once you realised you are too dumb to swing trade you suddenly became a "long term" loser.

Such idiocity.

You think Dan Balzerian held anything "long term"?

Long term is for losers.

In the world of cryptocurrency, there are various ways for a person to gain success and usually based on their skills and experiences, there are those who go through short-term investment channels and long-term investments, or there are also those who trade, gambling, etc. All of these will provide a distinct advantage for the perpetrators, provided they understand how cryptocurrencies work.

No problem you call us losers, the fact's that the long term often produces positive things. For example positive thinking, guessing and hoping, only the good can change the market situation towards a better one. You don't need to be prejudiced (gossiping) bad, about the ways / strategies that other people do in achieving success.
Have you ever been prejudiced bad, with what have you done yourself?

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Am sure your thinking about long term holders is one sided and is the reason you are using such insultive word on long term holders. I know that you didn't take into consideration those who are holders of crypto coins since the year 2013 till this moment, will you still use such word for them or you don't even believe such people exist.

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Quote from: Bitcoinsummoner on April 10, 2019, 12:52:11 AM

Quote from: Ahab_Hunter_of_BearWhale on April 02, 2019, 10:32:10 AM

Keep calm and HODL on Cheesy

You are right, we should hold good item and wait for a good rate & we should not sell until it reach on our goal, it will be a wise decision and for that price also will increase.

Well, I am one of those who thinks holding assets is a pretty good way depending on the conditions. maybe there will be a time when we need to sell some of the assets we have. but, when it hasn't been seen, holding for long periods of time is not stupid thinking.

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Quote from: Ahab_Hunter_of_BearWhale on April 02, 2019, 10:32:10 AM

Keep calm and HODL on Cheesy

You are right, we should hold good item and wait for a good rate & we should not sell until it reach on our goal, it will be a wise decision and for that price also will increase.

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Quote from: MakeMoneyBtc on April 02, 2019, 10:17:33 AM

I don't think we should call long term holders idiots and that's because everyone has its own way to invest its money. Some might prefer to make a small profit after a few weeks while others prefer to wait a longer time and don't worry everyday about what's happening to their investments.

The truth is that everyone thinks that what they are doing is the right way of doing things, traders think that what they are doing will get them more profits and faster while investors believe that traders are taking too much risks when they can get very easy profits by basically doing nothing and just holding their coins, the truth is that they are both right they just have different approaches when it comes to making money in the market and we need to choose the one that fits our personality in the best way.

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Quote from: pealr12 on March 30, 2019, 09:46:16 PM

Im a long term hodler and im not an idiot im just preparing for the future of my family. Long term investment will give you huge profit in the near future, and thats what when i started to hodl some of promising coins but the risk is so high if you want to go for long term

Long-term investment is one of the most promising passive income techniques because it has proven to provide many benefits. An example is that HODL bitcoin investors since 2000 and sell their assets in 2017, have become millionaires.
But for traders who like crypto price fluctuations, they are certainly happy to trade every day because it is more challenging and profits can be enjoyed in a short time. But strong mentality is needed because pressure and emotion are sometimes a determining factor.

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