Topic: Appeal of Ban Appeal: “hacker1001101001” spammer-sockpuppet menagerie - page 4. (Read 2581 times)

Especially when presented by documented scammers, documented scam facilitators and supporters pushing double standards and fake concern for the forum whilst scamming and milking it for every satoshi they can get. Who would listen to cries of fake concern from documented scammers and sig spammers? These are not enthusiasts they just want to milk the forum for their own gain.

Terrified to bring in context and compare hackers documented wrongs vs the wrongs of  scammer lauda ( documented) fake scam hunter and scammer facilitator jollygood.  Who allows lauda and mozprognoz to work with scams he says he has busted without saying a word to them. All very brave at busting scammers until his pals offer to work with those same scams for a fee.

Suchmoon knows all this but keeps silent about it? Only busting mozprognoz after he insulted them. Suchmoon should have been raising these points much earlier.
Both of whom won't hesitate to leave red tags if you being up inconvenient facts from their pasts.  Perverting the entire purpose of the trust system to punish whistleblowers.


Speaking of perverts we have nullius recently resurrected to randomly tag laudas biggest critic and prime whistleblower  for " showing empathy" nullius read in one of his neeechy books empathy was wrong.
Of course that is bullshit. You can clearly see nullius has a new crush on lauda after his last scammer teenie babe alia blew him off. Now lauda and nullius ( according to nullius) who sounds upset that lauda won't confirm she is female but nullius says he thinks lauda is a girl and enjoys flirting with her in private? Wtf nullius so desperate, he is willing to be flirting with a guy? In the hope she is female?
Did you notice how nullius went psycho when timelord said lauda was male?
Then we have the other slobbering moron malboroza. Who is always kissing lauda ass and his Croatian buddy who joined around the same time.

In summary the same group of scammers, scam facilitators and supporters and a creepy old perv that wants to impress his sexyscammer babe lauda by attacking someone who criticised laudas dangerous degenerate scamming behaviors.

Lauda and malboroza were begging for their pal chitbitcity to be reinstates and his plagiarism was financially motivated as he confessed
Where is chitbitcity? Does he have a 2 year sig ban? 



Why is malboroza answering primenumber7 and saying "you" said and then quoting quickseller?

Why are you doing that malboroza? Is that some kind of warning?

I wouldn't trust any of these members judgement to be honest if you investigate them.

Hacker0101000101 is far less of a credible threat than any of the others here.

When admin are considering this appeal they must be laughing away if they have done any research on these " concerned" individuals.
Scammers crying about ico bumpers. That's funny.

I feel sorry for primenumber7, now just laudas bitch forever. Lauda tells him to vanish and he does..

If I were admin I would want to take care of most dangerous and scammy members first. Especially if they were colluding, perverting the trust system and in default trust positions where their leverage could cause max damage to other members.

Nullius has no shame. After slobbering over alia and by his own boasting words made her " famous" and gave her credibility and sticking up for her to the last.  He was facilitating out of sexual frustration attempted scamming. We could have written that off as the mistakes of a pathetic incel desperate for his text only cybersex since that is all he likes apparently.

However, to be repeating this again with lauda his new crush is dangerous.
He come back to the forum just to abuse trust for lauda?. Giving a tag for empathy to a critic of lauda?
Rushes to support and lavish praise on the scammer lauda at every chance
Admits he is trying to force personal info out of lauda about its gender
Admits they chat in private and flirt together.
Gets psycho on timelord for saying lauda is male and killing nullius's lauda boner
Nullius Makes pathetic excuses for laudas scamming and nutildahs willing scam facilitating
Hacker0101000101 speaks out against lauda ..and nullius wants to impress lauda coming after hacker0101000101

Only the lauda usual gang of supporters or alts or pervy old stalkers comes after hacker0101000101?

How much more double standards crap with scammers punishing others for lesser evils or even their whistleblowers do we have to listen to.

Step up theymos and really investigate these people thoroughly.  These people have clear black and white histories of scamming, scam facilitating, using the trust system to punish their whistleblowers and colluding to take all the prime sig spots, escrow deals,  campaign manager...anything they can milk for themselves.

If theymos is willing to objectively analyse the independently verifiable evidence I can provide, then I can demonstrate that everything I say is true or credible.

Time to take out these scumbags. Free speech is getting crushed here due to this bunch of colluding scum.
Using merit and trust as the carrot and stick this place will become an echo chamber.

Anyone who is just here to milk the forum for money at all costs even scamming must be crushed.
Let's have some members that want to see everyone treated equally and are interested in building a open and fair community.

Anyone with clear financially motivated wrongdoing in their past must be blacklisted from the trust system
Consistent scammers or consistent scammer supporters must be banned.

Ban lauda, nutildah, tman, first
Keep an eye on nullius when he starts stalking and obsessing on female members. Limit post to 300 words. 1 post day max.
Marlboroza  - lol ... harmless once the others are gone, just sig ban him for good, and he will leave anyway. Only here for sig money
Hacker0101000101-  10 yr sig ban or sig that generates money for bct or good causes.


The only one there admitting they have done wrong, and being punished already is hacker0101000101...and he has done the least wrong lol

To jayjuangee - no, empathy according to nullius is tag worthy. Be very careful about suggesting people show empathy here.

Nullius does not care about this forum.  He is here stalking for young girls to try to impress with his waffling memorized garbage. This is clear. He only wants to punish hacker to try to get lauda into some cyber sex routine.  Don't believe me? Have a look through his history with alia and his posts about how he feels about lauda in a sexual way, and his red tags for empathy and or anything else from anyone who correctly notes his honey lauda is a scumbag. This guy nullius is creepy.

Besides what real fan of bitcoin does not have 1.2bitcoin? Nullius is a total joke. Alia saw that and he was history.Delete his slobbering.

Want to refute any of that? Get specific and we'll see how you get on.
 

Just an FYI, appeals or counter-appeals that get washed in several pages of arguments are usually not acted on by the staff.

He is exposed ICO bump service, read again topic where you already expressed your opinion about hacker:
There was signed message from hacker (address is "active" btw), so fake review spam business.
You have long history of breaking forum rules.
Pretty harsh? You got very soft "punishment" for things you did and maybe you are still doing, liar.

Actually, somebody is asking him questions, which he is ignoring:


...and other substantial questions being ignored on that thread, including:


PrimeNumber7, take note!


The code-illiterate “hacker” was banned less than one year ago, which is a long time only to children; and there is evidence that he was involved in ICO bumping as recently as five months ago, which is a long time only to infants.  If you want to argue a legal analogy, legal statutes of limitations are much longer; and in some jurisdictions, in some types of cases, if there is substantial evidence of a fraud upon the court, then a judgment can be set aside long on motion even long after appeals are out of time.

Note also “hacker’s” total lack of remorse—actually, the opposite of remorse:  A self-righteous belligerence toward anybody who questions his spam business.


Questions are being asked.  But the indignant “hacker” has “had enough”.

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Well, I see that you noticed how I despise Wikipedia legal arguments. ;-)

Just how is this in any way “very similar to” an ex post facto law?  Spamming generally has always been against the rules.  Quoting mprep’s reply to me, I cited three very specific rules which have been “on the books” for a long time.

The time passed since an offence is also completely irrelevant to the question of whether a law is ex post facto.

In the abstract, the principal problem with ex post facto laws is one of notice, or the lack thereof—i.e., retroactively banning behaviour that people had no way to know would or could be illegal.  It would be a manifest absurdity for any user to pretend that he did not know that spam is wrong.  (And if any user would so argue, it is really not somebody a forum community should want, anyway.)

(And since you linked to a clearly written explanation from Cornell LII, I will presume that you did not mix up your terminology with some other concept.)

Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.  I am answering it because it is a serious attempt to argue a counterpoint; at least that is a refreshing change from the trolls’ responses.

I note also that although I tend to couch arguments very roughly in quasi-legal language, I do so for the sake of precise analysis, and not to suggest that legal standards should apply to forum policy.


Reductio ad absurdum, theymos (and by extension, those to whom he delegates ban-hammers) have a right to ban people based on disliking their eyes, or on flips of a coin.  I think that would be (to understate the matter) grossly stupid policy; and I would publicly express my opinion on the topic.  That is a reductio ad absurdum.  Here, on the flipside, I am arguing that forum administrative policy does not adequately protect the community from spam, if it does not take appropriate and necessary measures in what I am arguing as a test case for a crackdown on spammers.

It is a suitable test case:  A forum user was granted lenience and unbanned, then subsequently discovered to be an unrepentant spammer.  If the ban hammer comes down on him, that will send a clear message about spam, and encourage reports from investigators.  If it does not, it shows that the rules are ineffectual and arbitrary, and spammers can get away with anything.

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Are you serious?

Above, I quoted mprep on multiple rules broken by your ICO bump “business”, also known as spam.  Also, your plagiarism was obviously against the rules—and you were only unbanned due to being granted a lenience that you do not deserve, apparently based on a mistaken impression that you were generally a good user who did one thing wrong, once.


Translation:  “I had them fooled real good.  Therefore, I deserve to get away with it!  How dare you call me out for bad things I did, which apparently were not taken into consideration eleven months ago, and which continued at least as recently as five months ago!?”

What makes you sure an admin banned him and not a global moderator? How about you stop wasting time defending evil individuals and go help somebody who needs it? You can thank me later.

We may disagree on the "probable" point, but I don't believe the presence of this word changes my argument.

The bump spamming (probable or not) should be able to be detected by the admins. If someone is using sockpuppets to bump spam a bunch of threads, IP evidence should be obvious. Page viewing history is only available to the admins. If someone is part of a bump spamming group, the admins should be able to detect this. It is not trivial to obtain all the posts that exist in the forum, and once someone obtains all the posts on the forum, performing substantive analysis can be resource-intensive. Being that resources necessary to run the forum are not consistent throughout the day, analysis to detect harmful things can be performed during off-peak times.

If hacker1001101001's misdeeds were not apparent to the admins this time last year when he was unbanned, I cannot help that. They should have been. His misdeeds were highlighted four months ago, and the admins chose to not take action.

How about you GTFO already? Nobody asked you anything.

It was not even hidden from my post history, and was public to anyone checking it, I am sure there were many more aspects taken into consideration behind my unban, hence even your argument is nullified too. Your lapse in judgment shows you should be nowhere at an postion to judge same goes with your baised and invalid flags.

FTFY. It was not apparent, therefore your argument is nullified.

I am strongly against what the OP is proposing.

I want to start by saying that I am very much not happy with what hacker1001101001 did with regards to the plagiarism and what I believe he did in his apparent bump spamming of altcoin/ICO threads. Both are harmful to the forum, and these things happening on what is widely regarded as something close to the 'official' bitcoin discussion forum only discredits bitcoin, and the freedoms it provides. What he did also discredits the freedoms the forum seeks to give to its users.

hacker1001101001 was banned for plagiarism and was subsequently unbanned. I understand his ban came long after the offense. I also understand he was treated similarly to others who were in a similar situation. When hacker1001101001 was unbanned I view him as essentially being pardoned for his misdeeds. Considering the amount of time that has elapsed since he was unbanned, I would consider banning him for his previous misdeeds something very similar to enforcing an ex post facto law. Hacker1001101001's probable bump spamming should have been apparent to the admins when he was unbanned, and given the amount of time that has elapsed since I believe he did this, I don't think it would be appropriate to prosecute him for this.

Have your eyes popped out ?

Which rule am I breaking ? (I am already experiencing pretty harsh 2 years of signature ban for the rule I broke about Plagiarism)

There is no real logic behind his ban appeal hunt here other than his pussy licking urge and him digging his own hole to prove his evil nature, hence you would not be able to find logic here in my reasoning too..

Which rule is he breaking?

Another temporary ban just might be the medicine a compulsive liar such as hacker1001101001 needs to give him a good bump (no pun intended) on the backside. I would prefer a permanent ban because he has had plenty of opportunities to own up to all his alt-accounts and general low-level behaviour but has never been honest about them all.


I absolutely concur, nothing hacker1001101001 says can be taken seriously. The ban he received was specific to the issues known at the time and not subsequent ones therefore another ban (either temporary or permanent) is definitely something that should be considered.


Even I had to laugh at that one considering anything coming from compulsive liar hacker1001101001 should not really be trusted or laughed at.

Him urging the admins to take action against nullius is actually somewhat laughable

@OP I don't think administration will change their decision. There are 2 c/p posts and possible more, but hey, he got away with it, unlike some other accounts doing the same c/p thingy 
Hacker actually wants to say that nullius's posting style is much different than his:


scare quotes

At least you are maintaining some humor, hacker.   

I doubt that too many are motivated to go through any detailed compare / contrast regarding what/who is "interesting"

Nice, Lier ! I thought you gave me that job. What an waste of your Quarantine time anyway.


I would urge administration to limit nullius's walls of text due to his time consuming baseless threads  and rants which he uses to shit everywhere around. I even find his posts less intresting each day, at least less intresting than bonesjonesreturns.

Hope you are safe from viruses and they aren't able to HACK you until.

Unpaid, non-ICO BUMP!

I think that you should feel free, bonesjones, to attempt to feel some sympathy and empathy, even if we are talking about online personas.  Probably the vast majority of online personas are just regular people who are participating in this forum to attempt to share information and to attempt to both help and be helped, and these people are going to have meatwagon issues too and feelings.

Just be careful not to get too carried away with your feelings that either you get lured into some kind of scam or maybe you start to believe that a troll/shill is actually a genuine person who is really is genuinely sharing information and experiences rather than just manipulating.    This would be a general suggestion, and I am not saying anything at all about anyone in particular, but just referring to the general dynamic of how we might still have feelings for online personas while keeping some of those feelings at bay.

Of course, misjudgments regarding the character of another person can happen in the real world too, but at least when you are in the real world and looking someone in the eye, there can be some other dynamics and knowledge of the person and maybe even know more details about who they are or have met their family that can help you to figure out if they are being genuine or at least how they are spending their days and what might be motivating them in the meatspace...

Seems that it becomes much easier for some people to become disingenuous in the interwebs and even difficulties to know whether you are interacting with one person or a team or maybe even there is some complex situation that is going underneath the avatar that is difficult to really understand what is behind the avatar, so surely there is a difference between real world and interweb personas, as you likely already know that, too, and truly many of us are increasing getting used to getting to know interweb personas over a number of years, even if we might not have ever met them in the real world, or we may be unsure about whether we would even share information with such a person in the real world (because there might be some thing about their personality that just would not work out so well in the real world, even though we are forced, somewhat, to interact online because we are sharing in the batting around of a topic). 

And, surely at the same time, we are likely prudent to have some skepticisms about the online persona and how much feelings we might develop in regards to our perception of their situation.

TPOTO

He probably just meant that the quarantine is not really essential for you since you are using laudas asshole as N95 MASK.
Also as a incel with no social life or RL friends , who never leaves the basement then no need for you to self isolate further.

Obviously at your age covid would be dangerous so I for one would certainly hope you didnt catch that in your state.
Then again....hmm sympathy and empathy and all that stuff is untrustworthy right? I dont want a tag for saying this?

Anyway on to the comparison of wrong doing we were getting to. The context to ensure we are handing out fair and consistent punishment. I see now we must include your own wrongdoing also.

These urges towards young hot girls of bitcointalk are not wrong although some will frown. It is the way these temptress are using your lust and desire for text only cybersex with them that I fear will or has already corrupted your feeble mind. This may be grounds for a reduced term for your own ban. We must investigate fully to determine this. Maybe just a limit on words per post to 50 could be enough. One post per day max? That I feel would be though maybe a form of torture. No that is not right. Ban it is.

So, the wannabe-“hacker”, a plagiarist and a very poor liar who eventually admitted to being a paid spammer and averred to continuing to protect a paid forum-spam ring, has now:

• Demanded that I be banned because he dislikes my opinions;
• Knowingly and maliciously spread factually false, defamatory statements about me; and,
• Concluded by insinuating a wish that I should catch COVID-19.

Disgusting.

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I am off the forum for the next day or so, and intermittently for the next few weeks.  Busy.

Meanwhile, please feel free to keep bumping this thread with your self-pwnage.

P.S., I know your type:  Dumb s’kiddie, big-talking hacker wannabe.  LOL, even your basic opsec is so shitty that you got caught red-handed doing paid professional spam (!).  You couldn’t hack your way out of a wet paper bag running unpatched IIS 5.1 ridiculously stupid “smart” contracts, which real hackers find to be much more profitable than ICO bumping.  According to your customary personal text, “NO SYSTEM IS SAFE !”—what, from you?  Well, you are an Advanced Persistent Threat for causing spam, spam, plagiarism, spam, spam, spam and spam some spam spam annoyance.