Topic: Appeal the ban "CoinIdol News" account (Read 973 times)
Well feel free, but you are wasting your time. Reporting these threads should not be necessary, and neither should this discussion we are having, because this user should have been permabanned three years ago.
If the mods/admins don't give a shit, then I'm done wasting my time with it. You should be too. Just hit ignore and move on.
Your position and the position of some other respected members of the forum is your personal matter, but they should not influence others to follow your example. The ignore button exists for a reason, but not for the reason that we all turn our heads to the other side and let everyone do what they want.
You gave up on the Press board, but that does not mean that good work was not done there and that some other members cleaned that board of those who were abusing it. It literally took me 10-15 seconds to report those two threads, and if new ones appear in two days or two months, I will gladly sacrifice another 10-15 seconds to do the same.
IMO it's time for moderator to consider longer temporary ban (2 years or more) or even permanent ban.
Who cares at this point? It's now been over three years since we started loudly complaining about users such as this one. Three years we have wasted time reporting, getting posts deleted, getting threads trashed, posting about it in Meta, continually asking for intervention, and still this bot is allowed to shit all over the Press board. If this account actually got miraculously banned today, they could open a new one tomorrow and it would take us until ~2026 to get that new one banned.It is quite clear this bot should have had a permaban three years ago. If the mods/admins don't give a shit, then I'm done wasting my time with it. You should be too. Just hit ignore and move on.
I gave up reporting spam a long time ago since we never ban the spammers or take action against the spam campaigns which enable them.
Free speech is one thing, which I completely support and have long defended. However, allowing bots to repeatedly smear shit all over the boards is another entirely. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths this forum will go to to ensure that absolute trash is allowed to ruin the experience for everyone else.
Free speech is one thing, which I completely support and have long defended. However, allowing bots to repeatedly smear shit all over the boards is another entirely. It never ceases to amaze me the lengths this forum will go to to ensure that absolute trash is allowed to ruin the experience for everyone else.
Makes you wonder why.
Was CoinIdol News banned permanently, and then they got unbanned? If so, then mods need to revise the decision, CoinIdol News is of the most annoying spam account I have ever come across here. No way mods can let such a knob-head have a second chance here. If it was just a temporary ban with a warning then I understand, but clearly they haven't changed, have they? 
I noticed them yesterday, and reported both threads - one was deleted, and the moderator apparently liked the other and is still active for now. One would think that they have changed their modus operandi after so long, but they continue exactly where they left off.
It appears that both threads have now been deleted. I'm not sure, but it seems like the user has not been banned this time.
Makes you wonder why.
I keep saying it, but at some point allowing people like this back and allowing the dumpster fire that is the altcoins / tokens section and allowing a bunch of other disruptive users is going to drive more people away from here. I already know that there are users like myself that are using other places to talk BTC. Not because we don't want to be here, but because it's better there.
-Dave
I noticed them yesterday, and reported both threads - one was deleted, and the moderator apparently liked the other and is still active for now. One would think that they have changed their modus operandi after so long, but they continue exactly where they left off.
It appears that both threads have now been deleted. I'm not sure, but it seems like the user has not been banned this time.
I noticed them yesterday, and reported both threads - one was deleted, and the moderator apparently liked the other and is still active for now. One would think that they have changed their modus operandi after so long, but they continue exactly where they left off.
Jesus Christ!
I thought we would never see them again, but nope, here we go again.
And with the same behavior. The post that was done on October 27 has nothing to do with the Press board. Such topics should be on the Speculation board. CoinIdiot News doesn't want to understand how we use the forum. You can say this or that, but his reply seems to be "I don't care"
Personally, I hate when people post images with the Press, it's useless 99% of the time. I don't bother to read the text usually, especially if people have the tendency to just copy past a paragraph and don't add an opinion, or question, or open a debate...
These are usually just people interested in posting something. They have no desire to discuss this with the members.
Can't believe they're back 
I just visited Press board and found out they're back again[1] after they made last post on "2021-10-25"[2]. As usual their post include some hashtag and big image which IMO isn't really helpful/relevant with the news.
[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5418506
[2] https://ninjastic.space/post/58264837
Can't believe they're back
Stuff like this is the reason I gave up on reporting spam and only report things like malware and illegal activities now. Why bother when we refuse to take action against even the worst of the worst spammers?
Can't believe they're back
It doesn't change. They still don't understand how things work with the press board. So I'm telling them: Stop polluting the web
When people visit your website, even coronavirus is asking for a mask.
Moderators should start to think about a perma ban. You can't give a temp every time, when people don't want to understand, it's time for another level
It doesn't change. They still don't understand how things work with the press board. So I'm telling them: Stop polluting the web
When people visit your website, even coronavirus is asking for a mask.
Moderators should start to think about a perma ban. You can't give a temp every time, when people don't want to understand, it's time for another level
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Now the temp ban is over the account has started spamming the press section again - this MUST deserve a perma ban?
Loooool well this truly means to have some guts! I bow down and take my hat off in front of such courage
I wonder how Nina Lyon will explain that. How will explain that CoinIdol News is not a bot but a human being.I believe now things are clear for everybody: that account is indeed a bot, which tried all the time to keep posting, but it was unable to. And in the very second when it was able to post again (when the temp-ban expired), it did what its code told it to do: to keep spamming the Press board.
Now the temp ban is over the account has started spamming the press section again - this MUST deserve a perma ban?
I just checked the first ten threads on there and all but two were from crypto-based sites and the other ones were not from sites I'd call notable sources.
If you check page by page back for years you will see the same pattern from so many users. That's what I'm talking about and asking if that's a double standard - deleting all CI publications, and mine. Hunting as sports.
Years ago when CD and CT were just a newborn sites (and now too) they did the same. I do remember it.
But still, I understand your complaints now, thank you. And I will work on all of what you said. Just to explain you - it was not an intention to make any super advertising but to share news. If that offended someone in the community - I'm sorry. I and my colleagues work for the crypto community and not crypto news manipulations and monopoly.
Well I'm up for trying it but to be honest I think that board would be pretty dead without all the blogspam so it might as well be locked/archived. How many threads are on the first page or two that are from notable sources? I just checked the first ten threads on there and all but two were from crypto-based sites and the other ones were not from sites I'd call notable sources.
Isn't that the point... if you remove the spam then more threads on the front page will be from notable sources.
Locking the board would be giving in to spammers.
Not really. The board has served its purpose long ago. It was created when any press article was exciting or indeed notable. Now nobody gives a shit what the mainstream media has to say. Any decent article can be posted in the main board if its worthy of discussion. Besides, there are plenty of measures that have been implemented because of spammers: Activity, merit, signature restrictions, PM restrictions, certain boards not counting towards activity/post count, newbies can't post images etc so if this is 'caving in' then so are all those.
Well I'm up for trying it but to be honest I think that board would be pretty dead without all the blogspam so it might as well be locked/archived. How many threads are on the first page or two that are from notable sources? I just checked the first ten threads on there and all but two were from crypto-based sites and the other ones were not from sites I'd call notable sources.
Isn't that the point... if you remove the spam then more threads on the front page will be from notable sources.
Locking the board would be giving in to spammers.
You don't have to post a personal opinion. That's not the forum rules just a user suggestion as a way to appear less spammy than just mass hit and runs but it still shouldn't matter. The current rule of the Press board is that it's for notable press mentions. CoinIdol isn't 'notable' in my opinion. Mods usually only go on what is reported so if someone reports your posts then they're likely to be acted upon. If you want clarification you should contact theymos but personally I think that board should be locked now as it's served its purpose or at the very least we should state that crypto based news outlets don't fall under the definition of notable and are therefore not allowed.
I think we should try both before we give up on the board entirely:
I think it would help if the rules were clearer. I propose the following additions to the current rules:
- 1. Official news agencies only. No blogs. No "cryptomedia" sites.
2. Don't just post the article. Include some of your own thoughts and insights about the article and/or the impact the news will have. This will minimise the potential for low-quality posters to abuse it.
Notability and copy/paste are both problems in their own right. I don't see how we can ignore one and not the other.
Smaller media sites have an obvious interest in generating traffic for themselves, so we need the notability criteria to combat that.
Forum users who can simply copy and paste some text and attribute a source so it's not classed as plagiarism have an easy exploit to make posts with basically zero effort. We then end up with abandoned topics where no one actually has any interest in talking about the news, because no one even attempted to start a discussion.
Well I'm up for trying it but to be honest I think that board would be pretty dead without all the blogspam so it might as well be locked/archived. How many threads are on the first page or two that are from notable sources? I just checked the first ten threads on there and all but two were from crypto-based sites and the other ones were not from sites I'd call notable sources.
So any suggestions about the content or not?
Yeah, instead of posting previews of your CoinIdol pages on the press board, you should be posting explanations and discussions about the contents of your pages (not a copy-paste of the whole article), preferably without pictures and hashtags. Don't use a bot for this and hire a real person to represent your site on bitcointalk and make sure that person interacts with the commentators on his/her threads.
Links to sources on your own site are OK as long as there is also substantial discussion in the post, i.e. don't write this:
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You don't have to post a personal opinion. That's not the forum rules just a user suggestion as a way to appear less spammy than just mass hit and runs but it still shouldn't matter. The current rule of the Press board is that it's for notable press mentions. CoinIdol isn't 'notable' in my opinion. Mods usually only go on what is reported so if someone reports your posts then they're likely to be acted upon. If you want clarification you should contact theymos but personally I think that board should be locked now as it's served its purpose or at the very least we should state that crypto based news outlets don't fall under the definition of notable and are therefore not allowed.
I think we should try both before we give up on the board entirely:
I think it would help if the rules were clearer. I propose the following additions to the current rules:
- 1. Official news agencies only. No blogs. No "cryptomedia" sites.
2. Don't just post the article. Include some of your own thoughts and insights about the article and/or the impact the news will have. This will minimise the potential for low-quality posters to abuse it.
Notability and copy/paste are both problems in their own right. I don't see how we can ignore one and not the other.
Smaller media sites have an obvious interest in generating traffic for themselves, so we need the notability criteria to combat that.
Forum users who can simply copy and paste some text and attribute a source so it's not classed as plagiarism have an easy exploit to make posts with basically zero effort. We then end up with abandoned topics where no one actually has any interest in talking about the news, because no one even attempted to start a discussion.
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