Topic: Appeal the ban "CoinIdol News" account - page 2. (Read 872 times)

You don't have to post a personal opinion. That's not the forum rules just a user suggestion as a way to appear less spammy than just mass hit and runs but it still shouldn't matter. The current rule of the Press board is that it's for notable press mentions. CoinIdol isn't 'notable' in my opinion. Mods usually only go on what is reported so if someone reports your posts then they're likely to be acted upon. If you want clarification you should contact theymos but personally I think that board should be locked now as it's served its purpose or at the very least we should state that crypto based news outlets don't fall under the definition of notable and are therefore not allowed.

Many years old publications and comments with reports on scam for example?  
This is not moderation, this looks personal. Never had anything like this for my entire time writing for crypto community on various websited for so many years. Very strange and it is a double standard.

I just reported 69 shillings of OP, as she followed the same path as CoinIdol News. From these 69 reports, 21 were shilling topics which were locked by the moderator. The other 48 were simple shilling posts, which were deleted. As a result of having less topics, OP turned back to Newbie rank, while she was a Member (or Jr. Member) before I made these reports (I don't remember exactly, but I believe she had the Member rank though).

Seeing now that her posts were also deleted, I hope she understands once and for all to stop these spams and shillings.


I was the hunter.

And I'm hunting any spammer / shiller. It is hard to find them all, but we, the spam guards are doing our best to keep the forum clean. Some are missed at a moment, but found later (as it happened to your posts, for example). But there is no double standard. It's just there are not enough reporters to properly compete with all the spammers. Besides, there are not enough moderators to analyze all the reports. I, for example, have 1055 unhandled reports, which will never be analyzed as they were made more than a month ago and the mods can;t see them anymore.

What I want to say is it's just a matter of time until other spammers are reported as well. No double standards, don't worry

With no active link, just a sign so you can know who I am.

Still looks like a double standard.

I see post with no "personal opinion" from the author in the Press section just a copy from the lead of the original publication. And you leave it. But you hunt on me and my personal years old replies.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2020-06-11-tiny-tax-haven-accounts-for-36b-of-cross-border-btc-transactions-5255038
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2020-09-12researcher-kept-a-bitcoin-bug-secret-for-2-years-to-prevent-attacks-5275698
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2020-09-14-rgb-continues-its-work-to-bring-better-smart-contracts-to-bitcoin-5275891
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2020-04-07-no-more-relief-for-bitcoin-miners-5238579
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2020-03-11-bitcoin-options-volumes-surged-during-recent-price-drop-then-died-5232044

Bottom line, participate in genuine discussion with other users.  That's how forums work.  I can't help but notice you're currently engaged with us right now having a real conversation.  You aren't copying and pasting your replies to this topic from another source, so you're clearly capable of having a conversation.  Why can't you be willing to do the same for the topics you post articles about?  Forget what I said about the quality of your articles, that's beside the point.  The real issue is that if any user is just copying content from another site and pasting it here on the forum with no unique thoughts of their own, that user will eventually find themselves banned. 

Make good quality ORIGINAL posts.  Easy.  Job done. 

Or you can buy an ad space : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55171319. In terms of exposure, it can't be better, but it's not free.
Or, why not, organize a signature campaign, but again it's not free.*
But there will be no problem with the reputation of your site.

Edit :
* Or organize an art contest like here

What do you think "etc" means?


You have an ad in your sig too. That's perfectly acceptable. And there is an option for users to turn those ads off. However advertising inside posts is not allowed.


The suggestions are very clear but you just don't want to hear them. Re-posting news from your site is the same as promoting your site if you don't engage in any kind of real discussion. The press board is not the right place to promote your site. Perhaps you can promote your site in the Marketplace/Services... consult with moderators what's the best option here. Have one thread for your site. Feel free to participate in other topics and carry your signature that promotes your site and/or your thread. Don't shill your site in the contents of your posts.

We do not post advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.), and the website mentioned here is another website.  

A little bit strange to hear about advertising from people who follow each of their post with banners...

So any suggestions about the content or not?

In coindol news' case the warnings were as much as their BS publications, and if you know how many of that coindol news posts on the press section, you'll agree that it was sufficient warning for them to change how they bring their news to this community. A user (in this case bot website) that gets all their posts deleted all the time, yet the user made no complain about it, to find out why their entire publications were deleted all the time, but just continued posting all the same BS (from zero posts most times) doesn't care about anything on the forum, and prolly knew they were doing something wrong, and didn't care to change cause they felt they'll not be banned.
+1 to that, the press section already has no traffic, and the little it gets is spam to say the least. The websites who spam the press section already have their site, so there's no need to 'advertise' their website on btt. Or it could be included to the rules of that board for users to include to the content of their sources, some original information that'll cause discussions.

I still think the Press section should be locked/archived... or at the very least we clarify that only notable sources are allowed which should mean no crytpo-based sites.

Spam advertisement is not allowed.

I see this account does spam advertisement in multiple threads. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fintechnewscoinpedia-2832883

I don't think running a business should allow any lenience with regards to forum rules. Every single post being deleted is a sufficient warning. If anything mods have been giving too much benefit of the doubt to an account that is utterly useless. I would ban the OP too, who's done the exact same type of shitposting years ago.

While I agree such spammers should be banned, a temporary ban or kind of warning before perma ban would be a good idea. Because according to the forum, if they are perma banned, there will be no way they can run their service/business etc. on bitcointalk forum. So, before perma ban, such accounts should be given warning or temporary ban in my opinion.

Not quite, no.

It needs to be phrased more clearly, but the intent is not merely to post links to news.  That's not the point of a forum.

If someone finds a story in the mainstream media and wants to discuss the implications of that news, that's the purpose (I believe) of the Press Board.  We want insights and analysis.  Thoughtful commentary to weigh against the content of the publication. 

You can hide behind the excuse that "journalists cannot state their personal opinions", but that's not going to resolve the problem and certainly doesn't mean you can simply resume posting as you did before.  To me, that just sounds like no one in your organisation is prepared to put the effort in and you just want to copy/paste with no other participation.  That's frankly not going to fly anymore, so think again.  The community won't allow it.  Why should we not hold you to the same standard we hold other users?

Like it or not, posts in the Press board need accompanying independent commentary to be considered a valid post. 

I often read in the Press section and I most of the time don't engage in posts made by CoinIdol. For one other then clickbaity titles the articles don't really have any good info in it, and when people engage a discussion in your thread CoinIdol won't be responding. The way it looks like to me is you are just using the forum to promote your website and not engage in any kind of discussion or give clarification to the news you are giving. The sense of BCT being a forum is basically absent when you don't entertain anything the members are posting in your thread. So I think the ban given to your account is well deserve.

The content of articles you were linking to is largely low quality - large, irrelevant, obnoxious pictures, many posts simply about price speculation with no actual content, poorly researched if at all, filled with inaccuracies, etc. Despite all that, that wasn't even the reason I reported every single one of your posts.

You were using the Press board as little more than free advertising for your site. This is a discussion forum, not a copy-and-paste dumping ground. Your account (which I strongly suspect was an automated bot) never once engaged in conversation, held a discussion, sparked a debate, replied to other users. You just dumped your copy-and-paste advertising multiple times a day and that was it.

The fact that every single one of your posts was deleted shortly after you made them, and your account has been banned before, and you made zero effort to change, makes me highly skeptical of this, but if you do want to change, then try to use your account like an actual human.

Having some accounts which don't spam doesn't give you a free pass to have other accounts which do spam.

Your website is where the community can find your news without discussing it. Again, this is a discussion forum.

The Press board is for "notable press hits". I do not believe that what is essentially a low quality crypto specific blog site is classed as "notable", and clearly the mods agree since all your posts are trashed.

You are not the first blog/media site to spam the Press board and be banned, and I'm sure you won't be the last. If you want to use this forum, then try contributing to it and not just using it as a place to dump advertising spam for free.

Actually you are shilling your website. Again and again and again.


See also how many times Coin Idol was mentioned in this topic: List of advertising shills. Mods please review and ban as appropriate..

I myself got tired of how many posts I reported for that account. I spent months reporting every single day all the shillings they made, but it seemed to be in vain. It seemed so much to be in vain that o_e_l_e_o took the sad decision to lock his topic, as he believed there is no chance in the world to stop that bot named Coin Idol.

I kept following everyday that account and I was surprised that it didn't post anymore for the last few days. I wondered if it finally got banned but it seemed too nice to be true. Apparently, it was true. One less spammer from the forum, after I worked for months for this to happen. It's a blessing for the entire forum!

@o_e_l_e_o: We won! The bot has been defeated!

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This is simple: stop spamming and shilling.



You can share the news on your website. There are a lot of crypto news websites but not any respectable one shills itself here: have you ever seen CoinTelegraph shilling itself here? Or CoinDesk? No. Just shady websites like yours do that. There is a bunch of such spammers, hopefully all being banned sooner or later: WorldCoin Index, Fintoism etc. I take hours everyday to report all this nonsense. If anyone wants to read your articles, s/he can visit your website, not Bitcoin Forum and to get redirected from here to your website.


Have you ever seen the description of Press board? I believe you didn't. Let me enlighten you:


"Notable", you see that? Nothing of your spams is notable. Just spamming and shilling.

Dear BitcoinTalk community.

I regret to hear that any of our publications are not good enough for you or annoying to anyone in the cryptocurrency community. I would be happy to hear your suggestion on what can be improved. And I assure you I will do everything to make it possible.

I must also note that we did read the guidance of what publications are allowed on the BitcoinTalk. And tried not to violate these rules.

Yes, we hardly communicate on the forum, that's true. But some of our authors follow BitcoinTalk and communicate here on different topics Without sending posts with links to coinidol.com, as any other users.

The account CoinIdol News was made specifically to share our news with the community, and not to discuss it. As journalists can not state their personal opinions, and we find it unethical to reply with personal opinion under the publication. Our goal is to share the information as it is. Section “Press” is dedicated to it, no? That seems not to be prohibited on BitcoinTalk. Or is it now?

Unfortunately I don't know why the entry is missing in the ModLog.
Since all posts have been cleaned up and the whole thing has been going on for a few weeks/months I rather assume a permaban.
I was not involved myself but the search brings some facts out:

1)

2) click here

I think the ban was not unjustified and will probably remain upright.