THE FACT THAT THE NXT TEAM doubled their already HUGE HOLDINGS
How much do they have? How do you know?
And how did they double it? If they doubled the chains for everyone, then everyone got double - so it all stays the same.
The Ardor chain isn't even started yet - we do not know what the plan for the remaining 50% IGNIS are. Do you know things from the future?
Only when the responsible parties have made public, openly, their intentions. From the first announcement, they were very clear about the other 50% going to the development team. Since that development team actually create the private company that Jelurida is, with the express purpose of selling the subsequent childchains in Ardor, one doesn't need to "know things from the future", as you put it, to know the FACTS. All of this has been published and commented on at length on this very thread. Perhaps you should read the pertinent information before jumping the gun? Just a suggestion. Yes, they doubled their coins with the snapshot just like everyone else... only difference is that they forge about 98% of all coins forged, as a group, so not exactly the fair distribution it is claimed to be. Not altogether unfair either, just the way it was.
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The other thing that is quite frustrating is the pretended ignorance that this is now a centralized project (not exactly now but in the very near future), in fact a private shop, Jelurida, selling, among other things, child chains for profit. Jelurida owns the platform, so they own NXT, they own ARDR and they will own 50% of IGNIS and 100% of every and all subsequent childchains.
They will not "own" the childchains. Those will be owned by anyone who creates them. It will be essentially just like the assets in NXT.
And Jelurida doesn't own the platform - they only own the commercial license. At the start that will be limited, as far as I understand to make sure the system works before everyone can do it. I doubt proceeds will then go to Jelurida - as far as I see from the license some income will go to ARDR holders - basically fees just as in NXT.
Nope, like above, you are wrong. Jelurida owns both the platform AND every single one of the childchains THEY create on Ardor.
One can argue maybe that they're moving to too much centralization - but it's hard to argue from your confusing points. They seem all over the map. But then you openly say you are actually not interested in the details.... maybe you shouldn't spout invented information then?
I never "invent" any information and all of this is, I repeat, has been posted here very clearly -for normal people with regular understanding abilities in the English language-. There's not "too much centralization" nor "perhaps" either, you are just reaching. Jelurida is a 100% private company who controls the childchains they create and sell commercially on Ardor. It's centralization, 100%. no one con "argue" about that. No more than you can argue about "maybe she's a little pregnant". And I never "spout" anything either. Ever. Nothing in NXT is sold commercially by a private party -at least publicly-, so that's a big difference right there: NXT is owned by the coinholders while the childchains of Ardor, created by the team we are all supporting with our investment and -those who forge- our computers securing the network, will belong to Jelurida who is the sole beneficiary of the sales proceeds.
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I really don't know what kind of wisdom, "help" -or religion- you want me to get on slack.... I've been around long enough to know that 60 people own 90% -or so- of the total NXT and ARDR in circulation,
Again, how do you know any of that? It's total bullshit. First off: when NXT started it was 73 holders, not 60. And that's nearly three years ago, most of these years with a price in the gutter. Whales sold a lot, and anyone could have bought for cheap. Nobody knows how many own how much.
Probably no one actually knows that. What we DO know -again because it is information widely available to any one-, is that there's a significant accumulation still in the top 50 wallets... not to mention the obvious facts that those initial 72 (one sold out to enormous ruckus, very early on) own several wallets, potentially a large number of them. But just because no one can "put up" everyone should "shut up" about a very troublesome problem relative to the distribution of NXT/ARDR? I do not think so, sorry. For the simple reason that the forging level achieved by those top wallets gobbles up the lion's share of the whole forging proceeds, possibly to the tune of 98% of it. Of course, since it cannot be documented, you can choose to disregard the concern, but it will be your choosing, not a lack of legitimate concern on the part of most average supporters of this project.
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...and that the biggest of the holders are part of Jelurida
Which isn't even possible if what you just before said is true. Jelurida is new - and didn't exist on the original NXT ICO. You're contradicting your own inventions.
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Telling me I am wrong in any of these statements, with dire proof of the deed, would "help" me. Cultist, absurd, baseless rhetoric, on the other hand...
You have of course no "proof of the deed" whatsoever. I would say: Put up or shut up.
Sorry can't do. While "proof of the deed" is impossible to obtain, the legal figure of reasonable doubt could easily apply in this case while the burden of proof is neither on the average supporters, nor the cultist wanting to "help".
