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Topic: Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt - page 10. (Read 9258 times)

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You`re hooked man, no escaping now from the minning addiction lol! Anyway, i like your videos, like your passion and dedication. Keep up the faith and the riches shall come!  Cool
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Testing out the Zotac 1070 TI Mini, pretty sweet for only $50 more give or take on that figure, same price as the non TI used to be during the massive price gouge era

When you going to build a 4 card VEGA rig and put a vid? Smiley
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4 GTX 1070 ti run at the OPTIMAL EFFICIENCY ballpark of 106 watts (give or take about 4 in my recent testing) should be comfortable on a good-quality 750 watt PS like a Seasonic X-750 Gold or EVGA G2 750 with enough left over to run the rest of the system.
 If you run them at full 180 watt TDP though, that's 720 watts average draw which is NOT going to run reliably on a single 750.

5 of them at 110 watt TDP are quite comfortable running on a single 850 - which pulls very close to 6 amps at the wall with a Seasonic X-850 or EVGA G2 850 and a FX-8350E based AM3+ system (CPU makes up for it's higher power draw vs an Intel G4600/4560 type system by mining Monero at about 320 hash/s).

5 of them on a low-power system would probably be close to 5.5 amps (might want to push TDP down to 106 or so to get to 5.3-5.4 range) - which is a comfortable fit on a 20 amp circuit for 3 such rigs.


 And yes, if you have not maxed out your available power and that power is cheap enough, it makes sense to run them at higher TDP levels for the extra hashrate - part of the reason I showed so many TDP power points in my testing.

 If you ARE pushing the limits of your available power, though, it CAN make sense to aim for better efficiency so you can run more cards and get more overall hashrate even if your power is FREE.


 Also, the more efficient points tend to let the card run cooler and with less fan speed, for better longevity.



along with this train of that thats why I chase efficiency, I have 100 amps, that's it lol so a max efficiency setup will give me most hash per watt + as you said a point I feel people dont often discuss is helping the longevity of the card


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Testing out the Zotac 1070 TI Mini, pretty sweet for only $50 more give or take on that figure, same price as the non TI used to be during the massive price gouge era

///Current baseline settings = 125 watts 200 core 500 memory
Here's a link to it for those interested
https://goo.gl/9BZPPm
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Ended up buying 4 Vega 56s instead! Bring on the headaches!
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4 GTX 1070 ti run at the OPTIMAL EFFICIENCY ballpark of 106 watts (give or take about 4 in my recent testing) should be comfortable on a good-quality 750 watt PS like a Seasonic X-750 Gold or EVGA G2 750 with enough left over to run the rest of the system.
 If you run them at full 180 watt TDP though, that's 720 watts average draw which is NOT going to run reliably on a single 750.

5 of them at 110 watt TDP are quite comfortable running on a single 850 - which pulls very close to 6 amps at the wall with a Seasonic X-850 or EVGA G2 850 and a FX-8350E based AM3+ system (CPU makes up for it's higher power draw vs an Intel G4600/4560 type system by mining Monero at about 320 hash/s).

5 of them on a low-power system would probably be close to 5.5 amps (might want to push TDP down to 106 or so to get to 5.3-5.4 range) - which is a comfortable fit on a 20 amp circuit for 3 such rigs.


 And yes, if you have not maxed out your available power and that power is cheap enough, it makes sense to run them at higher TDP levels for the extra hashrate - part of the reason I showed so many TDP power points in my testing.

 If you ARE pushing the limits of your available power, though, it CAN make sense to aim for better efficiency so you can run more cards and get more overall hashrate even if your power is FREE.


 Also, the more efficient points tend to let the card run cooler and with less fan speed, for better longevity.


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I've been on the fence about stepping in the NVidia game from my AMD rigs. I only have two 20A circuits though and so can't really add more than two 6-8A rigs (in addition to my 13 RX 470/570)s

So that would be like 4 1070 TIs, right?

Can 4 1070s run on one 750W psu (if I have a smaller psu for the MOBO/access)?
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IMO, the goal should be maximum profitability, not maximum efficiency. The two are not the same and the extra hash from running less efficient settings may still be profitable depending on your power costs.
I definitely see your point, I try to strike a balance between them for better or worse xD
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if you are building these 8 card  rigs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CvDso6LitI&feature=youtu.be


https://youtu.be/cEc6-Gv5QPM


the evga 1070 ti hybrid will be the best card you can use.

the eight slot boards call out for water block 1 jack pcie cards

and this is the best of all of them
full price 529
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5678-KR

I have lots of these but they are 1 year warranty refurbished.
 refurbished price 459
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6178-RX
here it is full price 499
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6178-KR


there is not a lot of choice  in this style water block which are the best cards for the 8 slot mobos

those three above are 1 pcie jack = very important  to the build

https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1070-SEA-HAWK-X.html

also makes a card that works.

so there are 4 cards  really only 3 cards and a refurbished to choose from.

these eight card rigs are pretty much the best zCash rigs around

you can drop to 3100 sols  at 785 watts at the wall
you can crank to 3600 sols at 1040 watts at the wall

that is with the 1070's

with the 1070 ti's

you can do 4000 sols for 1000 watts.

1 good week with BTG  and you may earn quite a bit back.

speaking of BTG how is BTG mining going Phil?
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Excellent review, thanks for the post, I was very curious about these. I'm picking up a couple tomorrow!
that's awesome glad I could help and enjoy them Cheesy
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I've not worked at all with the 1060, but I've never seen a 1070 1080 or 1080 ti achieve efficiency above about 4.2 - on the other hand, I've also not done much testing of DSTM yet.
Using EBWF, the 1070 ti was the first card I ever saw get above 4.4 sol/watt.

 Definitely the current efficiency king, just not a night and day difference.

 I don't even expect VOLTA when it shows up to get much past 5.0 for that matter.




Do you think the Voltas will be out by feb?
sr. member
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Basically I like your rig.
But the only thing that I would argue with is the choice of video cards. It seems to me that 1080 ti will be much better in your case.
So I'm wondering why you chose 1070 ti?
Only way to know if the new card is the best new thing is to try it out yourself! These cards have been running rock solid for a week now, low noise, low heat, low power consumption -- I'm a big fan of them Cheesy
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Excellent review, thanks for the post, I was very curious about these. I'm picking up a couple tomorrow!
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4.5 sol/s is amazing at your setting with 60% power limit. The maximum efficiency I could achieved at 75-80% PL which I usually use is not that high, around 3.3 sol/s, but I think it's acceptable.
legendary
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How do you determine the efficiency?

Is it the sols/W output from a mining program or measuring the hash rate and dividing it by the Wattmeter reading?

Ewb 3.3 and 3.4 give very accurate numbers.

I have matched them with three separate kwatt meters and they are accurate.

So if you do —pec and the nvidia reads 4.5 sols per watt it is close.

A lot of these cards push 4.5  sols per watt when tdp is low like 55%

But that setting is not practical.

As hashrate drops a lot
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How do you determine the efficiency?

Is it the sols/W output from a mining program or measuring the hash rate and dividing it by the Wattmeter reading?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
if you are building these 8 card  rigs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CvDso6LitI&feature=youtu.be


https://youtu.be/cEc6-Gv5QPM


the evga 1070 ti hybrid will be the best card you can use.

the eight slot boards call out for water block 1 jack pcie cards

and this is the best of all of them
full price 529
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5678-KR

I have lots of these but they are 1 year warranty refurbished.
 refurbished price 459
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6178-RX
here it is full price 499
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6178-KR


there is not a lot of choice  in this style water block which are the best cards for the 8 slot mobos

those three above are 1 pcie jack = very important  to the build

https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1070-SEA-HAWK-X.html

also makes a card that works.

so there are 4 cards  really only 3 cards and a refurbished to choose from.

these eight card rigs are pretty much the best zCash rigs around

you can drop to 3100 sols  at 785 watts at the wall
you can crank to 3600 sols at 1040 watts at the wall

that is with the 1070's

with the 1070 ti's

you can do 4000 sols for 1000 watts.

1 good week with BTG  and you may earn quite a bit back.
hero member
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IMO, the goal should be maximum profitability, not maximum efficiency. The two are not the same and the extra hash from running less efficient settings may still be profitable depending on your power costs.
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legendary
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I've not worked at all with the 1060, but I've never seen a 1070 1080 or 1080 ti achieve efficiency above about 4.2 - on the other hand, I've also not done much testing of DSTM yet.
Using EBWF, the 1070 ti was the first card I ever saw get above 4.4 sol/watt.

 Definitely the current efficiency king, just not a night and day difference.

 I don't even expect VOLTA when it shows up to get much past 5.0 for that matter.



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Basically I like your rig.
But the only thing that I would argue with is the choice of video cards. It seems to me that 1080 ti will be much better in your case.
So I'm wondering why you chose 1070 ti?
In my experience all the nvidia GTX 10x0 videocards can reach 4.5+ sols per watt if you set the powerlimit to 60-65%. For example, if I sacrifice a small performance drop from 300 sols/s to 270 sols/s from my 3gb 1060, the power consumption decreases significantly to around 60W and I go from 3.2 sols/W to 4.8 sols/W. Nothing that special about these new 1070Ti - but anyways, it's a good choice price/performance-wise.
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