Topic: Are 1070 TI's the next best GPU for mining? 4.7 sols per watt - page 8. (Read 9300 times)

Did you try overclocking them separately? It's always +xx/+xx @ xx TDP in your posts, so it's hard to be sure what's what. Set the powerlimit to 100, don't touch the core clock and simply increase the memclock to check the actual memory OC limit. Cause +200 max doesn't sound plausible, it should be able to OC more.

Micron garbage memory and the temp is fine, never gets above 55C.  I tried lowering OC settings and it still errors out of EWBF.  Its basically a worse 1070.  My 3x 1070s are pushing +200/+600 no issues @ 70 TDP (and they have Micron mem as well).  This 1070 Ti cant hold +50/+200 at 80 TDP for more than a hour maybe two.  Hashrate is equal to or a little less than the 1070s. Disappointing.

Even tried putting all my 1070s on the risers and the 1070 Ti directly on the MB but still same issue.

 No - it just means you didn't get lucky in the silicon sweepstakes on your memory or your core - OR you have poor cooling for the card and you managed to overheat it.

 What temp does the card get up to after 5 minutes or so?

 I have no idea what memory type my EVGA SC 1070 ti cards have, as I don't run them on Windows so no GPU-Z to easily tell without disassembly.


 Not sure why "in game" was mentioned in some of the replies, OP didn't say anything about gaming on the card.

Hmm, I've got the impression from his message that he had artifacts on his screen while the card was @ +200/+600. Which is a very hefty overclock at PL80 and not every card can run stable with such an OC. Of course if those issues show up at stock clocks — then RMA it.

If that was a new card it was faulty on arrival if it crashes in game and with mining at stock, its not wacko's fault the card died unless its a unstable overclock then its user error.
Obviously if it does'nt crash in game at stock settings its 100% perfectly ok, if it does crash in games with no oc then it is indeed faulty and will need to be rma'd.

Your oc would'nt of hurt this card in the slightest

You overclocked the crap out of the card and then want to RMA it because it crashes? EVGA won't be happy about that. Seriously though, overclocking is not only ever guaranteed, but with most manufacturers it actually voids your warranty. Hard to enforce since customers never admit that they did any overclocking and there's no sure way to check whether they did, but still it's there most of the time, in the fine print.

Don't worry, there is enough nostalgic romance longing for the days of mining bitcoin with GPUs that GPUs will never go out of style.  Remember, we are in nerd heaven and nerd heaven will always have miners with GPUs!

Could someone PM me or post a link to how the USB 3.0 risers work?  I picked up a few a while back and I've never seen them work.  Is it a BIOS setting thing or drivers?  idk...  thx for any advice

Set up my EVGA 1070 Ti this afternoon (Micron memory  )and adjusted settings to 80% TDP +200 Core +600 memory.  Ran fine with about 525-530 sol/s for about 45 mins then artifacted on me on and crashed system as my monitor was hooked up to this.  This something I should RMA if it happens again?

Yeah the whole eth imploding the gpu coins is a bit scary and is probably going to deter me from buying more cards for the moment but another card with a promising ROI is the Vega 56 cards able to push 2000 khs on xmr which puts it close to $5 a day if my calcs are right.

 Some of the 570 cards have been hitting $229 on Newegg, but nothing consistantly below that other than refurbs or open boxes - so far.

 Might change over the next month though, AMD card pricing IS dropping slowly.

 You CAN get the Sapphire "mining" 470 cards pretty consistantly at $260 or $279 - seems like ONE of the models is always in stock lately - and those have VERY good cooling.

 4GB cards you're doing good to get to 28 Mhash/sec on ETH AFTER a BIOS mod - doesn't matter if it's 470 480 570 or 580 on that.

 The other thing to keep in mind - the BLUE WHALE in the room - is that ETH goes Proof of Stake sometime next year if they stay on their current plan or semi-close - at which point profitability of pretty much ALL GPU-mineable coins will quickly collapse as those 4 MILLION or so cards currently mining ETH (mostly AMD) look for new homes.

 On the plus side, card prices on AMD cards should ALSO collapse at that point as a lot of "marginal" miners find out that they're unprofitable and end up dumping used cards.

RX 580 cards start from $250 on newegg, and that's for the most basic 4gb versions. Decent cards with decent coolers are closer to $300, and the 8gb versions are more than $300. Current high profits from these Polaris cards are all from ETN, which is a new coin that might go down really fast. After that it's back to ETH, and you're not likely to get 30 MH/s (as whattomine suggests when you select rx 580) from the cheapest 4gb rx 580 cards cause these days they often ship with weak hynix and elpida memory chips that you're lucky to get 27-28 MH/s from. So it's less than $1.5 a day per card.

According to whattomine.com the 580 would be mining electroneum and etherium. The price I saw for it was $200 on newegg. For the 1070ti price I saw was $450 and would be mining neoscrypt or equihash. My calculations could be a bit off but so far it seems the 580 would ROI faster?

 And what price are you assuming on the RX 580 vs the GTX 1070 ti?

Mining what coins on each card?  What are you comparing?

Am I missing something here? I'm checking profit calculations on whattomine.com and the ROI for the 1070ti is somewhere over 6 months even if I set the hash to 500 sol at 110 watts, while rx580 ROI in little over 4 months.

Thanks very much for that post.  In a mixed Nvidia rig, not seeing quite 4.7 Sols/w, but better than the 1070 in every way.  And except for density, I would prefer it to 1080 Ti.

Sweet!  Set it at
+700
+200
TDP 80

All 7 cards running at 3600 sols

This is a quote of Quintleo's post

Got a suprise this morning - my EVGA SC 1070 ti was on my doorstep when I wasn't expecting it 'till Monday.

 I had already installed the latest 388.13 drivers on my Win7 single-slot "test rig" machine while doing some testing on a new 1080 ti earlier this week, so the test rig was ready to go.
 I HAVE noticed some sluggishness on this machine, but it's a low-end Athlon 5050E dual core with 2 GB of ram so that's not unusual on it (machine was a LOT snappier on XP back in the day).
 Testing on this rig was done in an A/C environment at 80F give or take a degree.

 First thing I notice - the memory clock is WAY LOW, 7600 base clock for some reason. Due to that, this is the first EVGA card I can crank up to "+700" memory in Afterburner and actually have it work - as that's only 9000 actual EFFECTIVE memory clock.
 Boost is NOT limited to the "factory spec" numbers - it's like any other 1070/1080/1080ti it'll boost as high as the power settings and temp let it.
 Default TDP is 180 watts, same as a base 1080 or some higher-TDP 1070 models.
 Another odd thing - Afterburner will let me OVERVOLT the card, but it won't let me UNDERVOLT it at all.

 Did some testing on a copy of Genoil I had left over on that machine from ETH mining days - meh, pretty much the same as a 1070, obviously ETH is seriously memory limited on this card (not unexpected given other widespread reporting).

 Moved to ZEC testing with EBWF.
 Testing methodology - make a change in Afterburner, wait *at least* 2 rounds of EWBF stats posted, THEN average the next 3 stat rounds for the posted numbers.

 At stock settings (except for using my "standard" Afterburner fan profile):
 Hashrate settles in at about 467 sol/s with VERY little variation with the wattage figure in EWBF bouncing between 168 and 180 watts most of the time for an efficiency around 2.6-2.7 range.
 Core is boosting to 1848 Mhz pretty much as a straight line, 62-63C at 64-66% fan.
 Memory rock solid at "3798" (effective 7596).

 Crank the memory up to +700 in Afterburner no other changes:
 Hashrate settles in around 525 sol/s with noticeable variation, power however is pretty solid at 180 watts for efficiency at a little over 2.9
 Core is boosting to between 1810 and 1823 with a lot of bounce between those figures, temp 64C at 68% fan.
 Memory is rock solid at "4498" (effective 8996) and STAYS that way in the rest of the "+700 memory" testing.

 Dial in +200 core clock in Afterburner:
 Hashrate settles in to about 538 sol/s with some variation, power pretty solid at 180, efficiency a bit over 3.
 Core is bouncing some, mostly 1987 with lows down to 1967 and occasional bounces up to 2000. I forgot to check temps, think they bounced up to 65C at 70% fan or so.

 Drop TDP to 90% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate at 540 sol/s and pretty SOLID, power solid at 161 watts for efficiency at 3.38 - and yes, the average hashrate DID GO UP A HAIR vs 100% TDP.
 Core is bouncing 1911 and 1924 with an occasional 1898 or 1937, temp drops to 63C at 66% fan
 
 Drop TDP to 80% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate finally drops to 529 sol/s pretty solid, power pretty solid at 146, efficiency pretty solid at 3.64
 Core bouncing a lot, 1810 to 1873 range, Temp to 60C at 60% fan.

 Drop TDP to 70% in Afterburner:
 Hashrate to 509 sol/s but bouncing some, power pretty solid at 126 watts for efficiency of appx 3.96 with one reading above 4 (517 sol/s)
 Core bouncing in the 1709 to 1759 range, temp 56C at 52% fan.

 Drop TDP to 60% in Afterburner (WATCH THESE FIGURES):
 Hashrate 457 sol/s pretty stable, 103 solid watts, 4.46 efficiency.
 Core bouncing in the 1557 to 1607 range, temp 54C at 48% fan.

 This would be a VERY NICE setting to run a quiet multi-card rig in your BEDROOM, I have to put my head less than 2 feet from the GPU fans to hear them AT ALL.
 This is also THE highest efficiency figure I've seen to date out of ANY card I've owned, and I don't remember seeing a better figure reported (though I might have missed or forgotten a slightly better reported figure somewhere).


 Drop TDP to 50% in Afterburner:
 Core clock drops to under 1200 and the hashrate drops so far the efficiency gets WORSE. Don't go this low on this card.

thanks my friend, nice post your rig here/stats when its finished