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newbie
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Hello Guys!

Zotac 1070 Ti mini can reach 520 sols without taking fire? How many ºC and fan speed to get 5xx sols? Grin Im have no problem with power and i will use for gaming a mining, i wanna build another rig only for mining. (i have a SFF - CM Elite 110)

Many Thanks!
jr. member
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Gotta love my 1070 ti!
newbie
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Stability of a non-riser trio rig can be a bit better - fewer parts to go bad - but COOLING of the middle card in such a rig is a major problem.
You can work around that somewhat by using a "shorty" card as the third card, like a Zotac mini or the Gigabyte ITX models, but then you get to deal with the junk fans on the shorty cards (EVGA makes short cards with good fans but I don't think they go above a 1060 on them).

 I built quite a few such rigs during my Folding days, as Folding@Home needs a lot of CPU support and a lot of PCI-E bandwidth to get good PPD (hashrate) out of the cards so riser rigs were NOT a viable option.
 In theory, RIBBON-type x16 risers would have worked, but those tend to be a NIGHTMARE to work with and also tend to be very short.



dude you are so right

card's so hot i need a LD

damn just ordered some risers!
legendary
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Stability of a non-riser trio rig can be a bit better - fewer parts to go bad - but COOLING of the middle card in such a rig is a major problem.
You can work around that somewhat by using a "shorty" card as the third card, like a Zotac mini or the Gigabyte ITX models, but then you get to deal with the junk fans on the shorty cards (EVGA makes short cards with good fans but I don't think they go above a 1060 on them).

 I built quite a few such rigs during my Folding days, as Folding@Home needs a lot of CPU support and a lot of PCI-E bandwidth to get good PPD (hashrate) out of the cards so riser rigs were NOT a viable option.
 In theory, RIBBON-type x16 risers would have worked, but those tend to be a NIGHTMARE to work with and also tend to be very short.

newbie
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thx for all the help

i use my 970 to Benchmark the income rates right now..
i get 0.2 mBTC with nichHashminer but i think you will get fucked up with all that transaction costs and fees in the long run
trying MiningPoolHub once again with just two algos (Lyra2z and Equihash) getting payed in ETH pool fee is 0,9 and transaction fee is 0.62$

I am very sad that the Strix has got cheap fans (i always thought Strix is sort of premium) but i hope/think they wont be like the super garbage ones.

Running them at a fraction of full speed (40% maybe) with the most power efficient setting might help to prolong the fan's life

Damn now i see the interest in the EVGA cards but they start around 500€ per Card here in Germany.

thx for mentioning that https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/ site!! I will watch this as you could get a super fast ROR with mining CrapCoins i always like to say NicolasCageCoins (:

Overhead wattage of a trio system might be 40/3 =13,3 W per card so i end up in the 120-130 W per card range
i heard parts have greater availability (better prices) and trio rig runs more stable (without leaving any gpu on idle) and i feel more flexible as i could expand easily no frame and risers needed in the beginning.

I could run three Strix ones now with my hx750i Power supply and add three more ( or ampere cards ) later with three risers and another 750 W PSU this is mostly due to my restricted budget of 1.5k € at the moment

Thanks for helping me out dudes - im so glad i joined back in the scene.. back in the days we had couple GPU's on BTC goin on but we kind of used that stuff to buy "special" stuff on the web.. damn the usecase was so different Smiley

regards
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Thank you for this post. I want to buy a mining rig and I think I am decided now which gpu to buy. Happy New Year! Continue the work.
legendary
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Just some random example of shitcoin profits, no sol/s.

https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/



newbie
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Just wanted to throw my .02 in. Running 6 Asus Rog 1070Ti gpus with the power limit of 130 and a core +200 and mem +700 and getting 500 Sol/s each with Equihash. Running straight Ubuntu with DSTM miner.

Great card. My facility is cool so they all stay under 60C at 25% fan. Can't even hear them running. Got two more on the way to make it an 8 Gpu rig.
legendary
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Do you guys get around 4$ per card per day


 Mining ZEC directly via Flypool I'm currently pulling in about $3.75 a day gross on my 1070 ti cards - that is set for around 105 watts on each and pulling 460 sol/s ballpark, +200 core +700 memory on mostly EVGA SC modela and one Zotac Mini.
 The ASUS ROG Strix should be able to match those figures - my only issue with that model is that it doesn't appear to have ball bearing fans (same reason I won't buy any more Zotac mini models).

 At your power cost, that might be the highest-profit setting, though you might be able to get a LITTLE more net profit if you bump your cards up into the 110-120 watt range - efficiency drops but not a LOT, and the additional hashrate might be enough to cover the additional power cost.

 I don't push my cards any harder as I'm starting to run into limits of my infrastructure, NOT because my electric rate is high (it's very LOW).

 GTX 970 is a much lower performance card - if you're managing anything close to $1.50/day gross out of it you're doing good.
 The Nicehash estimator does NOT limit itself to 1 or 2 coins - odds are it was figuring a GTX 970 was more profitable on something like Lyra2rev2 (which often does well on the GTX 9xx generation cards).

 Gotminer's point about "at the wall" draw vs "card" draw is a good one.
 One of the reasons many-card riser rigs are popular is that they REDUCE the overhead power consumption and COST of "the rest of the system" on a per-GPU basis quite a bit vs running 3 or 4 card "no riser" setups - and the riser rigs are a LOT easier to get good cooling to the GPUs.



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Hi dudes,

i will get three ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI in couple Days

i almost had to sell my soul for this huge investment..because of Vosc Coin Channel  its debt pay of time now.

also my GF looks at me with that rlly not ok looking face.. ( damn.. please help me out guys )

currently i run a 970 with awesome miner i tried profit switching and tried only Zcoin(1,03mh/s) and only Zcash(285H/s) (@ mining pool hub )-> i had to shut it down -> i was able to get only 1,50$ per day with that card or lower.. whole system draws 145 Watts from the wall ( card draws 93 w  ccminer lyra2z)
How in Earth do they get 2,70$ when using recently hacked nicehash estimator https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-970?e=0.25¤cy=USD

Do you guys get around 4$ per card per day
as recently hacked nicehash claims to get ??->  https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-1070-ti?e=0.1¤cy=USD

Why is profit switching so darn not doin any profit?
do i really have to abandon my 970?

Back in the day´s i played games but now i can't due to 100% gpu load Cheesy - so be it.

how can i reduce my system wattage of 65 watts further ( no hdd's, 2500k @ 1600 ghz two ram sticks.. ) is this old tech pulling that kind of wattage?
i have a Watt meter connected.

i am scared to be stuck around 2-3$ income per 1070 ti card i pay 0.25 cents per kwh so i am really looking at the efficiency 110W setting if i can manage to get it stable
how much are u getting out of this card and bloddy how?
any general thoughts?


regards

Marco






Well ... If I sell my ZEC when it's at a price that can translate into $4 per card per day, I will have made $4 per card per day.  You're electricity is pretty expensive.  Mine is 0.10 cents per kwh.  As far as getting them down to 110W, I tweaked the core clock, memory clock, and power  settings with afterburner.  If you're using a watt meter at the wall, it's going to appear to be around 130-135W per card with the motherboard factored in.  The 110W figure is coming from the nvidia smi tool.  You can run it from the command line.  It's in C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI.
newbie
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Hi dudes,

i will get three ROG-STRIX-GTX1070TI in couple Days

i almost had to sell my soul for this huge investment..because of Vosc Coin Channel  its debt pay of time now.

also my GF looks at me with that rlly not ok looking face.. ( damn.. please help me out guys )

currently i run a 970 with awesome miner i tried profit switching and tried only Zcoin(1,03mh/s) and only Zcash(285H/s) (@ mining pool hub )-> i had to shut it down -> i was able to get only 1,50$ per day with that card or lower.. whole system draws 145 Watts from the wall ( card draws 93 w  ccminer lyra2z)
How in Earth do they get 2,70$ when using recently hacked nicehash estimator https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-970?e=0.25¤cy=USD

Do you guys get around 4$ per card per day
as recently hacked nicehash claims to get ??->  https://www.nicehash.com/profitability-calculator/nvidia-gtx-1070-ti?e=0.1¤cy=USD

Why is profit switching so darn not doin any profit?
do i really have to abandon my 970?

Back in the day´s i played games but now i can't due to 100% gpu load Cheesy - so be it.

how can i reduce my system wattage of 65 watts further ( no hdd's, 2500k @ 1600 ghz two ram sticks.. ) is this old tech pulling that kind of wattage?
i have a Watt meter connected.

i am scared to be stuck around 2-3$ income per 1070 ti card i pay 0.25 cents per kwh so i am really looking at the efficiency 110W setting if i can manage to get it stable
how much are u getting out of this card and bloddy how?
any general thoughts?


regards

Marco




legendary
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FTW should be good cards, but the dual power connector makes them harder to deal with in a multi-card rig.

Gotta wonder if EVGA knows why the SC model is such a big hit.....



What do you think about the splitters that are out there?  I have some coming next week to try out on my rigs with FTW cards.  Do you have any rigs running with them?  I'm curious to know how they hold up in the long term.  I'm also curious to know how the 8-pin to dual 8-pin authentic evga cables (that we discussed in another thread) that came with my 1000W GQ's do in the long term.
 

 I don't need splitters on any of my rigs, and I don't see much probability that I'll be using them in the forseeable future.

 I DO have a "2 6-pin to 8-pin" adapter in use on one of my older non-mining rigs, as it has an older PS that didn't have any 8-pin adapters on it but had a pair of 6.
 Been reliable for a couple-three years now, but it's also not exactly stressed running a GTX 960.

 Now that I know what you're talking about, I'm going to point out that those EVGA cables aren't "splitters" as such, they're the original power supply cables for that model of PS - and likely are NOT the same pinout on the input as a PCI-E 8-pin power connector.
 I'd give odds in favor of there being *4* +12VDC pins in use on the "input" end, not the 3 of the PCI-E spec - might possibly be 3 +12VDC pins and a sense line on one side though, where PCI-E uses 3 lines on one side for +12VDC and the 4'th for a spare (and excessively redundant) ground.


member
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FTW should be good cards, but the dual power connector makes them harder to deal with in a multi-card rig.

Gotta wonder if EVGA knows why the SC model is such a big hit.....



What do you think about the splitters that are out there?  I have some coming next week to try out on my rigs with FTW cards.  Do you have any rigs running with them?  I'm curious to know how they hold up in the long term.  I'm also curious to know how the 8-pin to dual 8-pin authentic evga cables (that we discussed in another thread) that came with my 1000W GQ's do in the long term.  And I'm curious to know how my GQ's do in the long term based on what you said in that other thread.  I like EVGA as a brand that I feel like puts out quality products, so I would never think twice about using a cable they made that is 8-pin to dual 8-pin.  I am always skeptical about all of the others.

It's all so much fun though ... In the end, I want every rig that I build to run 24/7/365 without a single issue.  Lol ... That will never happen, but trying and testing and gaining knowledge has so much value, that just makes this stuff fun, in my opinion. 
legendary
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FTW should be good cards, but the dual power connector makes them harder to deal with in a multi-card rig.

Gotta wonder if EVGA knows why the SC model is such a big hit.....

member
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guys im going to make my 2do mining righ, i want to use 5 1070ti x5 but i would like to know what will be the best 1070ti?

my rig so far will have,

board: pro btc +
processor:  Intel Pentium G4600 3.6 LGA 1151 GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80677G4600

havent pick the ram also or the risers.

have this rissers ready to bought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Z754LT/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B074Z754LT&pd_rd_wg=u0WaI&pd_rd_r=S3C3SMM0T7658CJHBAP4&pd_rd_w=jJZnr

thx for your advice.

If you stay away from Gigabyte and the Zotac Mini's, you'll be in better shape in the long run.  I'm running EVGA FTW2's getting 500 sol/s on each card at 110W.
newbie
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guys im going to make my 2do mining righ, i want to use 5 1070ti x5 but i would like to know what will be the best 1070ti?

my rig so far will have,

board: pro btc +
processor:  Intel Pentium G4600 3.6 LGA 1151 GHz Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80677G4600

havent pick the ram also or the risers.

have this rissers ready to bought.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074Z754LT/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B074Z754LT&pd_rd_wg=u0WaI&pd_rd_r=S3C3SMM0T7658CJHBAP4&pd_rd_w=jJZnr

thx for your advice.
newbie
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Doesn't SMOS use EBWF not DSTM?


Simpleminer-NV-v1118-kernel4.11.12-nvidia384.59-noaer has both DSTM v0.5.6 and EWBF-0.3.4b available for use. I was using the latest BBT's Multu-Miner on windows.
legendary
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Doesn't SMOS use EBWF not DSTM?

newbie
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Rookie observation and question here.

I have been running SMOS with 5 Zotac 1070ti AMP editions (Micron). Today I loaded up windows 10 (1703)(Afterburner)(Nvidia driver 388.71) and ran DSTM and noticed that I was getting about +.2-.4 sol/w difference then I get in SMOS with the same setings. +200core / +700mem / 110w.
In SMOS I am seeing 4.29 to 4.37 sol/w.
In windows I was seeing 4.4 to 4.7 sol/w.

Is it normal to see a performance difference between OS's? Drivers? I was always taught if your going to drive it you need to know how it works, how to fix it and most of all how to make it go faster  Grin
legendary
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So it looks like the price of the 1070s is the same price as 1070 Ti.  Is there any more that's better than the others or any that I should just avoid?

Read through this entire thread and there is another 1070ti thread that I've been watching too.  From what I have gathered, the fans are not up to par on the Gigabyte 1070ti's and I'm also staying away from the Zotac cards.  Vosk has some Zotac rigs running, but I think he said that they were not performing as well as others that he has tested.  That may just be the mini's ... Can't remember.  There is also some question about the fans in the Zotac cards.  That could also just be the mini's.  Not 100% certain.  But seriously read through these threads.  There is a wealth of information on 1070ti's.

 The one Zotac Mini model of the 1070 ti for me performed identically to my EVGA SC models, except it runs a little warmer due to the smaller cooling setup.
 I'm not buying more though due to the "sleeve bearing fan" issue - same reason I refuse to buy any more Gigabyte cards except PERHAPS the Aorus.

 The Amp Extreme line from Zotac, like the Aorus line from Gigabyte, does specify "ball bearing" fans - my issue with those is that the power connector setup makes powering multi-cards a lot tougher.
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