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Yes we're winning, the only problem is that most of the time it's not a lot money in those wins and those wins are sometimes also lost in the gambling as well because we are gamblers and we all needed that fix. Even if they say that their games are fair and all, it doesn't matter because they're a business after all and they really need to make sure that even if it's fair to you, they're still going to be the one that's on top and they need to embody the very thing that matters the most which is that "the house always wins".
If you're winning big in a probably fair casino game, you say the house will somehow turn that around to profit, but like in probably fair games it's supposed to be transparent (in theory)?
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
I don't usually care about fair games on my previous bets because I only play and then exit but if there really are that kind of fair games then we would be happy if anyone would share it here if they don't mind it. I've been looking for game like that but it's hard to tell not unless experienced gamblers will share their thoughts on it.
I think every gambler doesn't really think about whether a gambling game is fair or not, what is in their mind is that they understand how to play it and can make a profit from it and they continue to play with the skills they have. I think the way the gambling system works in my opinion is very fair in this case, at least if we want to play cards like blackjack and poker I think this game is quite fair and just, when we play the game we need a little skill in playing the game, and a little luck in playing the game. When we control the game, if we are right, we will definitely win the bet.
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So far as gambling is concerned, no type of game is fair enough as all are based on luck and risks so whichever one you choose to engage in, just play responsibly and don't feel like you could win all the time so it's just left for you to decide the type of gambling that will be convenient for you to play. Provably fair games also involves luck so don't think the games will always be fair enough.
All what you said is truth is hard to specified any game to be Fair different people with the tactics they use to play gambling is so critical that one can specify any ad fair what favour Mr A may not be for Mr B , the way you play the game and it favour you make it fair, I have been playing some game now, I discover all game is almost the same player has less chance of winning all wining is mostly in luck and in this kind of situation is hard to know which one is fair.
We must understand that we don't have bigger chance to win in gambling and we only gives our money to casino when we loses. Casino which have good reputation will not trying to cheat their members because that will makes the casino be bad and casino will lose their members. Even if we can say that the casino is fair, we will still difficult to wins the games even if that games is provably fair because gambling will not gives us big chances to make money.

We must realizes that gambling is not a way to makes money but only for have fun. We don't have to try hard to wins the gambling games instead just enjoy our time to playing gambling so we don't have to lose much money. But we can still wins, especially if our luck comes in the right time so we can gets some money from gambling. But that doesn't mean we can wins many times as in gambling, we must knows how to limits ourselves if we don't wants to lose much money after we wins.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
Provably fair games as the name suggest are games that should be fair. There are couple of provably fair games out there and it would be best if you picked out one yourself by trying out a couple of them and finding out the one you understand the most and likely stick to it depending on your preference.
Personally I believe all gambling games are luck dependent and the only difference between the different gambling activities is the level to which luck contributes to be able to achieve a win. Sone gambling activities are more of analysis and calculations Which can also contribute to the gamblers level of experience over time.
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Yes we're winning, the only problem is that most of the time it's not a lot money in those wins and those wins are sometimes also lost in the gambling as well because we are gamblers and we all needed that fix. Even if they say that their games are fair and all, it doesn't matter because they're a business after all and they really need to make sure that even if it's fair to you, they're still going to be the one that's on top and they need to embody the very thing that matters the most which is that "the house always wins".
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So far as gambling is concerned, no type of game is fair enough as all are based on luck and risks so whichever one you choose to engage in, just play responsibly and don't feel like you could win all the time so it's just left for you to decide the type of gambling that will be convenient for you to play. Provably fair games also involves luck so don't think the games will always be fair enough.

All what you said is truth is hard to specified any game to be Fair different people with the tactics they use to play gambling is so critical that one can specify any ad fair what favour Mr A may not be for Mr B , the way you play the game and it favour you make it fair, I have been playing some game now, I discover all game is almost the same player has less chance of winning all wining is mostly in luck and in this kind of situation is hard to know which one is fair.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
A provably fair system is good but you should write at the back of your mind that casinos these days are using it for advertisement. Many provably fair games are not so but a piece of a lie, so you should be careful about that because you will hardly see a casino these days that will tell you that their games are not provably fair, some will even try to prove it for you, but still, it is not so. So dealing with the right casinos, especially the reputable and popular ones is a very good way to go in this context.

That said, you can try Stake.com for this. I have not seen a casino or heard of such that has more probably fair games than Stake.
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Actually I am a little ambiguous when discussing fairness because after all when talking about fairness then indeed I think it is not very suitable when talking about gambling because even though in the scheme we know that the game is clean but in the end the final result is clear we all realize where the bookie still wins and indeed it does not fit the concept of fairness in my opinion so looking for a game of fairness in gambling I think we must know a lot of games that are sure the settings have been arranged in such a way as to make us win and then immediately lose Cheesy

But for sportsbooks maybe it can be done because however although sometimes there are also some conditions where justice is questioned but for big matches it seems that it is still possible for us to do because in my opinion match fixing is only for bets on small and not too famous matches so this can be a justice where the game becomes clean in the sportsbook.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
When it comes on dealing with casino based games then provably fairness is something that you would really be needing to check upon but if we do speak about sports betting and card games which its strategic then this is something that you wont really be that needing.. Winning or not then this isnt something that you would really be having in mind so that you wont really be that putting up yourself into such desperate condition or manner.  The key on here is that if you dont really like to experience some headache then it would really be always best that you should be sticking into those known and popular platforms on which you could really be able to assure that you are on the right place.
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So far as gambling is concerned, no type of game is fair enough as all are based on luck and risks so whichever one you choose to engage in, just play responsibly and don't feel like you could win all the time so it's just left for you to decide the type of gambling that will be convenient for you to play. Provably fair games also involves luck so don't think the games will always be fair enough.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Skills are not much involved in "provably fair" games and so winning such games does not guarantee that you will win the same way again in the future.
No matter what strategy you try, you won't be able to stay consistent in it as provable fair games depends more on luck.
So if you have a good luck then you can just pick any of the provably fair games and test your luck in them.
Skills, let alone strategy, are actually not very useful in games with a possibly fair system, I am one of those people who don't believe in a possibly fair system even though I can verify my seeds, in fact not many gamblers win and beat the dealer, in the end the dealer will always win, especially not. There are also casinos that go bankrupt because the game system that uses a system may be fair in their games, it is clearly impossible, basically winning depends on how we use the mindset correctly.

I'm sure that almost all casino games where we play against the dealer will definitely be difficult to win, that's why many people who aim to gamble want to win actually feel disappointed by the defeat they experience so that in the end they become addicted because they don't control their emotions, there are many games that might be fair but actually it makes more sense to bet because for me it is much fairer than other casino games, it all comes back to each person's views and most importantly use a healthier mindset.

Ofcourse we can't beat the casino sites because they are designed in such a way that even if the system is provably fair then we won't be able to win in the long run because of the house edge.
You must already be knowing how the house edge works due to which we eventually keep losing no matter what we do.
Provably fair system is just a way to verify that the bet we are doing is not manipulated.
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As for “honest” games, it is hardly worth it to focus on them. Of course, games should be honest. But when there is a conversation about honesty, it always means possible fraud. For example, in the game Dais, players are often suspected of online casino of fraud. Players say that casino uses fraudulent programs to increase its chances of winning. Although in fact, when it comes to absolutely random games, the casino does not make sense to deceive. The player will still lose, because in any random game the chances are not on his side.

That's how these games are set up and the house edge is always there. I think if someone doesn't trust websites with their RNG, reverting to sports betting is a good way to ensure that results can be verified and odds can be assessed by the players themselves whether they think they got an edge there or not. I have got the same feeling in the past that when you play roulette or dice you always think that it is impossible for a number to be lower than X again for the 8th time in a row, but that is still quite subjective.

However, this was one reason why I mostly prefer sports betting or any game where I do at least have some influence on the outcome, like playing poker. Although some might argue that poker platforms are full of bots and the RNG might still be rigged, which in theory is of course possible. Hence if I put my bets on a football game like Real Madrid vs. Dortmund, I know that 99.9% the game can't be rigged. It could be fixed, but highly unlikely as I can still see the game with my own eyes and verify for myself whether the referee and the players have done the best job possible.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

I am always of the opinion that gambling depends heavily on luck and just a little bit of skill. You know that before you play a game, you must understand the rules of the game and some principles that can help you win, but you are not really certain that those principles are going to make you win unless luck prevails. Understanding the principles of the game will give you a hint of how to play well and prevent you from being foolhardy, but winning is not still guaranteed. That's to say that gambling is based on luck, mostly, and just a little skill.

I agree, but gambling is a lot of different directions, and in each of them luck affects the game in different ways. And in many of these areas, the skills of the game can become decisive in the game:
the betting - skill of prediction strongly affects the outcome of the bet.
Card games (poker, blackjack) are also available.
Casino: roulette, slots - skills have no effect, only pure luck.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Skills are not much involved in "provably fair" games and so winning such games does not guarantee that you will win the same way again in the future.
No matter what strategy you try, you won't be able to stay consistent in it as provable fair games depends more on luck.
So if you have a good luck then you can just pick any of the provably fair games and test your luck in them.
Skills, let alone strategy, are actually not very useful in games with a possibly fair system, I am one of those people who don't believe in a possibly fair system even though I can verify my seeds, in fact not many gamblers win and beat the dealer, in the end the dealer will always win, especially not. There are also casinos that go bankrupt because the game system that uses a system may be fair in their games, it is clearly impossible, basically winning depends on how we use the mindset correctly.

I'm sure that almost all casino games where we play against the dealer will definitely be difficult to win, that's why many people who aim to gamble want to win actually feel disappointed by the defeat they experience so that in the end they become addicted because they don't control their emotions, there are many games that might be fair but actually it makes more sense to bet because for me it is much fairer than other casino games, it all comes back to each person's views and most importantly use a healthier mindset.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

I am always of the opinion that gambling depends heavily on luck and just a little bit of skill. You know that before you play a game, you must understand the rules of the game and some principles that can help you win, but you are not really certain that those principles are going to make you win unless luck prevails. Understanding the principles of the game will give you a hint of how to play well and prevent you from being foolhardy, but winning is not still guaranteed. That's to say that gambling is based on luck, mostly, and just a little skill.
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I rarely play probably fair games ever since live games existed. Although probably fair games is open source which means you can verify fairness, sometimes you can’t still trust them 100% especially if you don’t know how the code works. Probably fair games are the old version of casino games since they are basic games like plinko, dice, limbo and other game which you can find on the original category of the casino.

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Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

This games is still like the other gambling games which skills is not required since the game is completely luck based. It’s always based on luck in able to win on this game.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Skills are not much involved in "provably fair" games and so winning such games does not guarantee that you will win the same way again in the future.
No matter what strategy you try, you won't be able to stay consistent in it as provable fair games depends more on luck.
So if you have a good luck then you can just pick any of the provably fair games and test your luck in them.
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that kind of luck game is like that. but it always becomes interesting when we feel closer to victory. Isn't that what gamblers always feel when playing games of luck? The hope is high to win but the odds will not be as we hope.

casinos are considered fair when they pay out our winnings. there is no cheating in games that are already programmed. If you want a bet that you can see the results of then you have to bet on sports betting.

All gambling games are based on luck including sports gambling, at some point we might feel our knowledge in sport betting would guarantee our continues win from the games, but unfortunately even 1.0 odds could make the entire result from the game to be lost. As long as it's predictions we make, it's luck we are depending on except in cases were Its a know fact out side gambling, but as long as gamble is concerned it's all luck. We often believe casinos aren't fair enough when we are at the loosing side and that could be true because the house is always on the wining side, the programmed games can be very difficult to predict because there is no way to compare the possibility of anything happing in there as all code aren't open source.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

It's provably fair, ensuring the randomness of the results, which is obviously for the game of luck, for example, dice.

You just need to verify the served seed that is provided before each bet and the client seed that is provided at the end of every bet, so with the provably fair verification tools you can verify the results are random or tampered in anyway by the casino.

Server seed (provided by the site)

Client seed (provided by your browser and adjusted by you)

Nonce (A number that increases with each bet you make)

You will get an encrypted hash of the server seed from the site in advance, so there is no way for the site to change it afterwards. It is, however, encrypted and you cannot calculate your own roll results in advance (only after you change your seed).
As far as client seed goes, your browser will generate a random client seed. You can adjust your own client seed if you want to make sure the site does not know your client seed in advance.
Nonce is the number that increases by 1 with every bet you make. Nonce can either start from 0 or 1, it depends on the website.


https://www.provablyfair.me/verify-bets/
https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/
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In a game of luck there's no skills involved, just knowing how to play the game is already enough. If there is a house edge which certainly what we are discussing here, it would be unrealistic if we believe that we can win with our skills, that's not gonna happen. OP just asking if we are winning in prob(v)ably games, and the answer is yes, because its winnable but all of us still loses in the long run.

For game of luck, it's enough to verify that games are transparent, but at the same time, we should also understand that even  if games are transparent, the house edge still dictate our winning chances, which is lower than 50% all the time.
that kind of luck game is like that. but it always becomes interesting when we feel closer to victory. Isn't that what gamblers always feel when playing games of luck? The hope is high to win but the odds will not be as we hope.

casinos are considered fair when they pay out our winnings. there is no cheating in games that are already programmed. If you want a bet that you can see the results of then you have to bet on sports betting.
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