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December 04, 2023, 03:08:25 AM
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Bitcoin is still very illegal in many countries and to many governments, but in many of these countries, what is surprising is that you will still find investors in bitcoins who are going against the government and secretly buying and investing in bitcoins. An example of some of these people are members in this forum, so I am want to ask a personal question, do you think of yourself as a bad citizen for disobeying the government? Do you agree that you are a violator for breaking the law? Now see things from a religious side as well, by disobeying the government and investing in bitcoins, are you committing the sin of direct disobedience?
Let me answer your question from a personal perspective.

I live in a community where we have a lot of seafood like fish, oysters, periwinkle, and lots of valuable seafood that are in abundance here. But the issue is that the leaders in my locality don't allow people to harvest the see food for the purpose of selling them and this is because they don't even know the value of those see food. they will even harvest those see food that if you sell it in the urban areas, the price will be enough to feed a whole household for the week and they will just eat it up just a day.

Because I know the value of these product and I know the market I can sell them to make money, I still go out and harvest it and sell it and make a huge money out of it. And here is the striking thing I discovered as I continued harvesting the oyster, I discovered that the more I harvested them, the more they produce fresh and quality oyster while the once left without harvesting becomes old and dies off with time. When some persons in the locality interacted with me and I told them how much I make from the sells of tye oyster, their thought process change and some of them have even joined me.

What I'm trying to say in essence is that, that a country bans the use of a particular thing doesn't make the thing bad or illegal, as long as you know that what you are doing isn't illegal and won't harm anyone in the process, then I don't see anything that is wrong with it.

The issue is that most of the government that band and kicks against Bitcoin adoption are just afraid of accepting a system that they won't be in control of.
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December 03, 2023, 08:21:52 PM
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Bitcoin is still very illegal in many countries and to many governments, but in many of these countries, what is surprising is that you will still find investors in bitcoins who are going against the government and secretly buying and investing in bitcoins.
Some world maps for Bitcoiners (Legality maps).

Very little countries in which Bitcoin is considered illegal and governments in those countries have to ask themselves a serious question. Are they good governments when they are going oppositely with a common trend globally?

Because their opposite regulations than most of rest countries globally, is harmful for their citizens. They are bad governments compare to governments in other countries, in most of the world.
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December 03, 2023, 07:09:46 PM
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Who cares if you're a "bad citizen", "disobeying the government" or "committing the sin of direct disobedience" if you're just owning something that is definitely in no way unethical/immoral?

Ya'll need to stop licking the boots of your governments.
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December 03, 2023, 06:52:51 PM
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My government didn't ban Bitcoin and I obviously don't care what laws do other countries have since they don't apply to me. But if my country outlawed Bitcoin, I still wouldn't care. I'm guided by my moral principles and not the laws, if I don't agree with a law then it must be a stupid law.
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December 03, 2023, 05:35:11 PM
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Bitcoin is still very illegal in many countries and to many governments, but in many of these countries, what is surprising is that you will still find investors in bitcoins who are going against the government and secretly buying and investing in bitcoins. An example of some of these people are members in this forum, so I am want to ask a personal question, do you think of yourself as a bad citizen for disobeying the government? Do you agree that you are a violator for breaking the law? Now see things from a religious side as well, by disobeying the government and investing in bitcoins, are you committing the sin of direct disobedience?

If your country is among those who are not bitcoin-lovers and have banded anything that has to do with bitcoin, you yourselves don't need to be in this forum for the first place, and secondly, if you have any of those who their country has banned bitcoin in their side and are still buying and investing in them, that's their own choice and believe, and if you are so much concern about what it, you can be the persecutor and charge them for their crime, or better still, take them to the law i for enforcement agent and see where the case will lead to
 
Manche countries might not be supporters of bitcoin, but they are banning their citizens from investing in it. Their citizens are allowed to take the risk on their own and the governments have nothing to do with it. And if you are from the country that doesn't want you to get involved with bitcoin and you are a lover of bitcoin, you can either leave the country and stay where you are allowed to do what you want, and when you relocate, are you still falling under the law of your country that deny you the access to own a bitcoin? 
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December 03, 2023, 05:11:53 PM
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Bitcoin is still very illegal in many countries and to many governments
This is so wrong.

If you think that you are not wrong, name the countries bitcoin is not legal and let us discuss about it and you will see how you are very wrong. Bitcoin is illegal in just few countries.

I am quite sure that you will not have up to 15 countries among the 195 countries in the world.
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December 03, 2023, 05:10:09 PM
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do you think of yourself as a bad citizen for disobeying the government?
Nope. If it's about Bitcoin then I am not disobeying them because I am in a country where it is completely legal and free, so I have no problem thinking about that.

Now see things from a religious side as well, by disobeying the government and investing in bitcoins, are you committing the sin of direct disobedience?
Since there is no restriction, therefore that I am not breaking the law and I am not a violator per se.



I have a question for you OP, you may or may not answer it. If someone from a country that has restricted Bitcoin and he's a member of the forum and had an account, is he a violator already since he's on a Bitcoin forum? The government will have an approach towards it for sure.
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December 03, 2023, 04:42:06 PM
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And who says Government right about everything?

Back in the day when Governments looked at slave trade and slavery as something very normal. Would have imagined that they believe it was right and trying to resist slavery was a crime and punishable? Today, the historical resistors of slavery and looked at as heroes.  Now, relate that to the use of Bitcoin today, and you will have the answer.
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December 03, 2023, 03:40:47 PM
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An example of some of these people are members in this forum, so I am want to ask a personal question, do you think of yourself as a bad citizen for disobeying the government? Do you agree that you are a violator for breaking the law? Now see things from a religious side as well, by disobeying the government and investing in bitcoins, are you committing the sin of direct disobedience?
Hey OP, have you heard of civil disobedience? According to Britannica, civil disobedience is the refusal to obey the demands or commands of a government or occupying power without resorting to violence or active measures of opposition. Why is the government telling me not to buy Bitcoin when I know that Bitcoin represents freedom, and holding onto their fiat is economic and financial bondage? I want to be free, and because I don't want to resort to violence, I simply disobey them.
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December 03, 2023, 03:30:04 PM
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Well, no one be will answer this question and why would anyone admit they are involved in illegal practices as per their government norms? Majority of countries have not banned Bitcoin and it's neither legal nor illegal and some countries don't have problems with it unless it affects their citizens in a negative way like some major scams or terror funding or money laundering. I don't think we should term people of committing sins just because they are going against their government when government just wants to control your financial freedom.
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- Jay -
December 03, 2023, 03:23:12 PM
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Do you agree that you are a violator for breaking the law?
Are these questions you expect people to answer on a public forum?

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December 03, 2023, 02:54:00 PM
#1
Bitcoin is still very illegal in many countries and to many governments, but in many of these countries, what is surprising is that you will still find investors in bitcoins who are going against the government and secretly buying and investing in bitcoins. An example of some of these people are members in this forum, so I am want to ask a personal question, do you think of yourself as a bad citizen for disobeying the government? Do you agree that you are a violator for breaking the law? Now see things from a religious side as well, by disobeying the government and investing in bitcoins, are you committing the sin of direct disobedience?
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