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hero member
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March 24, 2017, 01:08:18 AM
Dice sites are reliable, you can find some of them here in the forum. You can figure out by yourself the site if you know how to check it. The provably fair is clearly indicated before you play, so if you bet supposed to be you already understand it.
hero member
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March 24, 2017, 12:21:17 AM
I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
If you play in provably fair casino you can actually verify your results yourself. Only play in trusted dice site which shows you Hashed server seed and client seed for your next roll so that you can verify it if you are not satisfied with your roll.
That's right and there is no doubt that most of the popular casinos here are legitimate and they would not ruin their business not doing what they say.
The only thing is we will really lose because of the house edge that is why it's called a luck base game because we can only win if we are lucky enough.
legendary
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March 24, 2017, 12:00:06 AM
I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
You sound you are using simple or modified martingale strategy. Are you how much sure that you will not have bad luck on daily basis. When you are getting continuous winning streaks, have you ever think about why you are getting them ?

Unfortunately our strategies are not dealing with winning streaks to make use of them the maximum (because strategies are concerning only on avoiding losses and dealing to tackle losing streaks). If you have a strategy to deal both winning and losses then you can doubt about the gambling house. Houses are technically neutral but our luck is not favoring us.
the only bad thing that most people have recently in gambling are they blame the game or the site as rigged , suspected not fair when they suffering lost only , but when they ge unexpected winning , an accident bet winning they did not make any complaint.

so as long as a lot of people can verify with certain method a dice site as fair , then we can follow it as fair , of course with a careful verification.
legendary
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March 23, 2017, 11:58:25 PM
I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
If you play in provably fair casino you can actually verify your results yourself. Only play in trusted dice site which shows you Hashed server seed and client seed for your next roll so that you can verify it if you are not satisfied with your roll.
hero member
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March 23, 2017, 11:49:53 PM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!

That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out.
It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down.

But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one.
Some small sites will still cheat people for the idea of quick money.  You can run a casino business with Bitcoin very well, but that's just it, you have to run it very well and most people are not capable of doing it which is why they are likely to scam instead.

Basically to run any gambling site one need to have a huge bankroll to maintain a site. If don't have a huge bankroll then the most likely site will end up either in a scam or may close. That's why you should always choose a trusted site to gamble. But if they run it properly it is a very good business and they can make a lot of money from it.

Correct. It is not that easy to maintain a certain gambling site especially if this site do have a big name and which is trusted by all the gamblers here in the crypto world, so they have to be careful about managing their sites. They have to manage their funds in order to have successful rolls in their games like DICE, which is the game that is the most played here in the online Casinos.

That is why there are lots of stuffs to consider in managing a gambling site because it requires a lot hard works, time, and effort, so its not an easy job to begin with. And if you guys are not yet ready to manage one, it would be better if you will back off for now. Smiley
legendary
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March 23, 2017, 08:48:07 PM
I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
You sound you are using simple or modified martingale strategy. Are you how much sure that you will not have bad luck on daily basis. When you are getting continuous winning streaks, have you ever think about why you are getting them ?

Unfortunately our strategies are not dealing with winning streaks to make use of them the maximum (because strategies are concerning only on avoiding losses and dealing to tackle losing streaks). If you have a strategy to deal both winning and losses then you can doubt about the gambling house. Houses are technically neutral but our luck is not favoring us.
hero member
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March 23, 2017, 08:12:18 PM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date.
well most of the well known  dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players.
Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month.
no way you can earn 15% profit monthly through casino investment ,
unless of course if the site was shady , it's too good tro be true ,
mostly has less than 5% , but wait i remember there's a profit difficulity too there right?
you might put it on higher risk? but still hard to completely 100% to any online dice site , they can run away anytime who knows.
You cant see any gambling site that do give high returns on monthly basis 15% is exaggerated to be mention since we do all know their returns arent too high IMHO. ROI would be longer than expected depends on how the site is profiting and if it does then its better because you will surely gain positive but remember that this thing happens all the time because there are instances which you will also experience negative profits on a particular month.
hero member
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March 23, 2017, 07:57:18 PM
I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
legendary
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March 23, 2017, 06:58:05 PM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date.
well most of the well known  dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players.
Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month.
no way you can earn 15% profit monthly through casino investment ,
unless of course if the site was shady , it's too good tro be true ,
mostly has less than 5% , but wait i remember there's a profit difficulity too there right?
you might put it on higher risk? but still hard to completely 100% to any online dice site , they can run away anytime who knows.
hero member
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March 23, 2017, 06:37:46 PM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date.
well most of the well known  dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players.
Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month.
legendary
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March 20, 2017, 01:27:41 AM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!

That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out.
It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down.

But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one.
Some small sites will still cheat people for the idea of quick money.  You can run a casino business with Bitcoin very well, but that's just it, you have to run it very well and most people are not capable of doing it which is why they are likely to scam instead.

Basically to run any gambling site one need to have a huge bankroll to maintain a site. If don't have a huge bankroll then the most likely site will end up either in a scam or may close. That's why you should always choose a trusted site to gamble. But if they run it properly it is a very good business and they can make a lot of money from it.
hero member
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March 20, 2017, 12:46:02 AM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That indeed was the purpose of provable fairness, but when a site hides the hashes and shows it only after a player requests/click some buttons, it leaves one wondering what goes on behind the closed doors. For a dice site to be truly fair, it should be able to display the hashes before a games, so that any player can verify with the outcome afterwards that there was no fowl play. This was the ordeal of a player http://themerkle.com/999dice-scam-exposed/ They must have had to improve by now because you can now actually leave their "Fair Bets" button open while you roll to see how the server seed hash changes as you roll.
newbie
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March 19, 2017, 03:42:03 PM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!

That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out.
It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down.

But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one.
Some small sites will still cheat people for the idea of quick money.  You can run a casino business with Bitcoin very well, but that's just it, you have to run it very well and most people are not capable of doing it which is why they are likely to scam instead.
hero member
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March 19, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Usually online dice site are secure and safer as long as everything goes well. You never know what actually is happening with any casino or casino behind the scene related to financial matters. It is all your luck after all to let your money on gambling sites and then to be able to withdraw successfully. Big and time tested dice sites are still delivering at least.

I use only sites which have accounts here on forum with positive reputation. I think this way: The casino doesn't want to lose all their reputation builded along the last years. They won't scam their users and lost everything they conquered since now after so much time. It's a kind of guarantee for us investors and gamblers, surely not 100%, because nothing here is 100% sure, but maybe 99%...  Grin
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March 19, 2017, 03:09:29 PM
Whether provably fair or not is not your only problem, as you can see here: Online gambling scams
A provably fair win will not help you much if it will be not paid!
I can very well understand your point here,but if a rouge site does not want to pay its customers no one can force them to pay since i am sure most of the gambling sites are not running with a legal regulation and so it cannot be held responsible and with customers and the site hosted and the person behind the site may be from different jurisdiction and that is certainly what online gambling is and hence it is really difficult to claim the money.
hero member
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March 19, 2017, 01:24:27 PM
Usually online dice site are secure and safer as long as everything goes well. You never know what actually is happening with any casino or casino behind the scene related to financial matters. It is all your luck after all to let your money on gambling sites and then to be able to withdraw successfully. Big and time tested dice sites are still delivering at least.
newbie
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March 19, 2017, 01:17:17 PM
I'd say that 99%of dice sites here that are completely unlicensed are better than all the licences casinos out there by a large margin. Except for bitdice.

Most of the dice sites are legit and their operators are the most trusted people in the bitcoin community in some cases because they are able to handle hundreds of thousands of dollars or even bitcoin without any intention to scam.

Try bitdice, Bitsler and Primedice. These are the three dice sites I use and find trustworthy.
Yep, dice sites and gambling with Bitcoin in general is fairly secure, as is investing in their bankrolls etc.  Unfortunately though how trustworthy they are can't be verified except by other members of the community, so they could collapse at any time.
legendary
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March 19, 2017, 09:56:18 AM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date.
well most of the well known  dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players.
legendary
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March 19, 2017, 09:52:14 AM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!

That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out.
It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down.

Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this...

I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos.

i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games.


I'm bit worried to play on new site since they doesnt got any reputation to hold our money or running a gambling site and im very vigilant on these since there are many scam site who pretend to be good while in reality they are just a scam and running a site without a proper fairness beneath on them. Thats why i mostly go also to those big sites who already tested by majority so that i would not cry later on and file some scam accusation on those scamtards people.
Most of the case we should really always seek for the most reputable ones compared to those newly launched gambling sites because the risk of being scammed is there that's why its really ideal to make some investigations like checking community feedbacks regarding on sites fairness,supports and other important thing should be considered on a good gambling site.
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March 19, 2017, 09:41:15 AM
Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.

Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!

That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out.
It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down.

Yes... Only provably fair isn't enough as proof of a reliable casino. The casino can be provably fair and scam everybody when gamblers try to cashout or any moment saying the site was hacked or any other thing like this...

I just play at reliable sites, those trusted sites here on Bitcointalk forum. New casinos and unknown casinos can be good, but I prefer to play at the old and trusted casinos.

i prefer to playing gambling with the old and trusted casinos like you because i think its fine if we trying to play gambling with new site, but for me, its because i want to trying that new site and see the chance for me to win the games. beside that, the new site need to give a proof if their site is really good for gamblers to play in that site and maybe they can give a bonus for the member to attract people to played. i think all the gambling site is provably fair but its depend on what games we've played and how big our luck in that games.


I'm bit worried to play on new site since they doesnt got any reputation to hold our money or running a gambling site and im very vigilant on these since there are many scam site who pretend to be good while in reality they are just a scam and running a site without a proper fairness beneath on them. Thats why i mostly go also to those big sites who already tested by majority so that i would not cry later on and file some scam accusation on those scamtards people.
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