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Quote from: ImHash on March 04, 2017, 04:04:04 PM

After winning 2 times(depositing 2 times with days in between) in a new casino, I got greedy and deposited for the third time but I assume those 2 times were to fool me to go back and play with more coins, yes I lost the third try and now I figured that it's best if we try a trusted casino for the first time with a large amount to have a better chance of guaranteed wins Cheesy

I won't disclose the name of the casino though.

You are saying it is better to gamble in trusted casino because you won 2 times and lost third time in new casino? And in trusted site you have better chance to win? That doesn't make any sense at all. Every casino is new in start, it doesn't mean every new casino is rigged.

Quote from: ImHash on March 04, 2017, 04:04:04 PM

I won't disclose the name of the casino though.

Please do. Warn others!

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Quote from: Nekutasa on March 04, 2017, 11:33:37 AM

From my experiences gambling sites are reliable but You never know what can happen so cautious! It is based on luck though if that's what you asking

dice sites and all the games similar to dice are easy to trust because of provably fair system but not other types of games are the same.
for example when you play poker online you can never be sure if you are playing a fair game or you are playing against someone who already sees your hand!

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Quote from: xuan87 on March 05, 2017, 01:44:31 AM

Not all of dice site is reliable, I ever played in a scammed dice site and the site that doesn't pay, so you need to be careful to choose your gambling site, play in the site that have a provably fair and a good reputation, and if it is possible find the site that have a big faucet, big affiliates payment and a lot of giveaways

the question is why do you play at unknown site? does you have been lured by their giveaways? promos? well if yes i think its a big lesson to learn for you and all of us here since actually there so many scam dice site has been made and surely we read their numerous thread since it was visible to us.

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Quote from: xuan87 on March 05, 2017, 01:44:31 AM

Not all of dice site is reliable, I ever played in a scammed dice site and the site that doesn't pay, so you need to be careful to choose your gambling site, play in the site that have a provably fair and a good reputation, and if it is possible find the site that have a big faucet, big affiliates payment and a lot of giveaways

Indeed, but even those sites has been labeled as a scam as long as the players can win from those sites they seems fun for play it and ignore the warning about this site has been labeled as a scam site (I have talked with this player and he said like that).

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 26, 2017, 08:58:45 AM

There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?

Most of the dice sites in bitcoin are quite good to play, and I think the good place for us to do play a dice games was is in the fortune jack gambling site.

The most famous dice game site is primedice and now very fast picking up site is bitsler site for dice and other games as well. Fortunejack also is a good site but they are changing their terms without informing their players who make to think twice to go to that site. Becuase what they did recently is not a good thing, and no trusted sites will do that kind of mistake.

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Not all of dice site is reliable, I ever played in a scammed dice site and the site that doesn't pay, so you need to be careful to choose your gambling site, play in the site that have a provably fair and a good reputation, and if it is possible find the site that have a big faucet, big affiliates payment and a lot of giveaways

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 26, 2017, 08:58:45 AM

There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?

Try yolodice. It is provably fair has investment options and a free faucet you can use it when your balance is 0 up to 50x a day. You can increase the faucet payout to by waging 1btc or more.

It has a nice clean interface and no registration needed it is bound to your device.

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Quote from: ImHash on March 04, 2017, 04:04:04 PM

After winning 2 times(depositing 2 times with days in between) in a new casino, I got greedy and deposited for the third time but I assume those 2 times were to fool me to go back and play with more coins, yes I lost the third try and now I figured that it's best if we try a trusted casino for the first time with a large amount to have a better chance of guaranteed wins Cheesy

I won't disclose the name of the casino though.

So you are basically saying that the site is rigged.Even i used to think that these sites would allow to win for the first few times and then they would take everything when you keep on playing,it is natural and we call that house edge. Grin

you can very well spill the bean out if you really think that they are rigged. Wink

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After winning 2 times(depositing 2 times with days in between) in a new casino, I got greedy and deposited for the third time but I assume those 2 times were to fool me to go back and play with more coins, yes I lost the third try and now I figured that it's best if we try a trusted casino for the first time with a large amount to have a better chance of guaranteed wins Cheesy

I won't disclose the name of the casino though.

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 26, 2017, 08:58:45 AM

There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?

Yes it is, Most of the sites are reliable in bitcoin world. But there is 2 dice sites which are best for me to play with such as Yolodice and fortune jack, these two are good have interface in their sites for me. though I can't deny most of it are more on depending their winning on luck of each gambler.

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 26, 2017, 08:58:45 AM

There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?

Most of the dice sites in bitcoin are quite good to play, and I think the good place for us to do play a dice games was is in the fortune jack gambling site.

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 26, 2017, 08:58:45 AM

There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?

Probably there are sites like you said, but all the famous sites are Provably Fair. Personally I know two legit dice sites: the famous PrimeDice and a new site in the Deep Web, penguinsyuo2gtvz.onion. You can check them out but never try to make big profits with gambling. Wink

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From my experiences gambling sites are reliable but You never know what can happen so cautious! It is based on luck though if that's what you asking

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Most well known gambling sites are provably fair amd based on luck. There is no way to "rig" it from what I know, if that's what you mean

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 26, 2017, 08:58:45 AM

There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?

According to me All Bitcoin Dice Sites are Reliable and Fair But I Don't Think that Putting Your Money In Bitcoin Dice Sites is Not a Good Idea to Make Some Money and I Never Suggest anyone to do Gambling Online and Waste their Time and Money in Just a Luck Based Games......

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Quote from: debuni on February 26, 2017, 09:06:44 AM

Almost all Bitcoin Dice sites are Provably Fair.

And all Offered by us with EdgeBack are.

So it's pure luck. But EdgeBack is on top of your winnings

I don't really understand about provably fair, all this time I have played dice games but always ended lose, so I don't trust dice site and maybe I don't have enough 'luck' to get profits. I have to say that all of those dice sites were made to make players lose, if they didn't, they will out of business.

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Quote from: Deep BTC on February 27, 2017, 05:00:29 PM

I read the messages. Everyone wrote the same thing. Everybody said your safety is provable. Do you explain to me how it can be proven? I mean companies that have signature campaigns on the forum. So primedice, kingdice, 777coin, bitvest etc.
Do you openly explain how technically safe companies are like?

Thanks.

It can be proven easily, a dice site gives you a:

Serverseed - provided by the gambling site
Clientseed - provided by your browser and adjusted by you
Nonce - A number that increases with each bet you make

And a secret seed which will be revealed when you choose a new seed and you want to verify your rolls, this way a site can't temper with the outcome of your rolls.

https://dicesites.com/provably-fair

I've examined the connection you gave. I will have two questions.

How can I get the following values when the first starts the game?

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Clientseed: ClientSeedForDiceSites.com
Serverseed unhashed: 293d5d2ddd365f54759283a8097ab2640cbe6f8864adc2b1b31e65c14c999f04
Serverseed hashed: 5ac59780d512265230d5efb3cc238886dc1b457a80b54fbf1f920b99c6505801
Nonce: for the first bet it is 0 on this dice site (PrimeDice)

Secondly, how are these values assigned time? So I should know the value of "Serverseed hashed" before I throw the dice. Then when I dice, I should send "Clientseed" and "Nonce" to the server. After I have done the server calculation, it should send me the value "Serverseed unhashed" and the dice result. If there is a sequence like this, the "provably fair" statement would be correct.

Everything is assigned by the site, except the Clientseed this you can choose yourself. The rest is available to see except the Serverseed unhashed this will become visible after you choose a new seed and want to verify your previous bets. The unhashed server seed doesn't come available after every roll, that is the old provably fair system which made it hard to verify thousands of rolls and required a new unhashed serverseed after every roll, so now they implemented the Nonce into the calculation which increases with every roll made to make it easier for us to verify but still being a provably fair dice site.

Just try it out with different chosen client seeds on primedice and use the verifier of dicesites.com to see if it shows the same results.
https://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier or seuntjies dicebot also provides a good verifier.

I did not get the answer to the question I asked.
Where can I get the value of "Serverseed hashed" when I enter Primedice site? Where can I get the "Clientseed" value? How can I change the value of "Clientseed". I did not see the area to change.

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Quote from: Oralmat on March 02, 2017, 10:11:08 AM

Yeah, dice sites are reliable. But as you asking that is it programming? So i answer is no, it is not fake but only less chances are here to win in dice, because it is pure luck game, even i know mostly gambler think that some strategy work on dice, but i don't think so, If you have luck than you mustily win but if you have no luck than no chance to win in dice.

That is just wrong, not every dice site is reliable, there are and have been quite a few scam sites that don't pay out their players.
Most established dice sites are reliable to play on but not every single one.

Also another person (justdimin ) above you mentioned this already, you might want to read the rest of the posts before making statements like this.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on February 27, 2017, 08:41:53 AM

Some sites says that they are provably fair and no scam, though there are still gamblers that are being scammed at their site. And dice games are really random, you cant ensure your profit in these activities, must try investing than gambling.

Scam or provably fair indeed depends on the site. Because sometimes there are who say they provably fair and not a scam, but in the end they're doing it all and bring blurry all the funds they get from all the people who do the gambling. But it's all you can fix by following some gambling sites that are long-standing and have a lot of confidence, because only with it you can get a good profit. For if the site already has a long standing and trust and also high users already ascertained they provably fair and not a scam even though they do not promise it

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Quote from: Oralmat on March 02, 2017, 10:11:08 AM

Yeah, dice sites are reliable. But as you asking that is it programming? So i answer is no, it is not fake but only less chances are here to win in dice, because it is pure luck game, even i know mostly gambler think that some strategy work on dice, but i don't think so, If you have luck than you mustily win but if you have no luck than no chance to win in dice.

The sites and the program codes are different things we are going to deal with ?

When you are suspecting the program codes of one gambling site, it would be highly recommended to quit them. Hence we cannot say there had been is good but there business model is not good.

All the dice sites are not reliable, but we have handsome number of reliable die sites. We can use this forum to find those reliable sites.

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