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hero member
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March 02, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
#72
Yeah, dice sites are reliable. But as you asking that is it programming? So i answer is no, it is not fake but only less chances are here to win in dice, because it is pure luck game, even i know mostly gambler think that some strategy work on dice, but i don't think so, If you have luck than you mustily win but if you have no luck than no chance to win in dice. 
legendary
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March 01, 2017, 05:47:35 PM
#71
They are reliable and there is no argue about it. With strategy of luck depends from player.
I think a lot of people make a mistake with dice strategies, strategy depends from bankroll and there is a mistake that people make, they try to use strategies with small bankrolls and of course thy end up with losing everything.
Any kind of strategies depends from our luck, not from our bankroll. If you are saying bankroll is the reason why people keep losing on gambling, we must need unlimited bankroll then, even though your bankroll is huge, doesn't mean you can always win on gambling.
sr. member
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March 01, 2017, 05:15:45 PM
#70
There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
In playing dice sites I don't have any idea about a reliable sites, the only thing I know was is duckdice.io and yolodice and most usual things I played is yolodice and dice game in yobit exchange.
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 04:38:39 PM
#69
I read the messages. Everyone wrote the same thing. Everybody said your safety is provable. Do you explain to me how it can be proven? I mean companies that have signature campaigns on the forum. So primedice, kingdice, 777coin, bitvest etc.
Do you openly explain how technically safe companies are like?

Thanks.

It can be proven easily, a dice site gives you a:

Serverseed - provided by the gambling site
Clientseed - provided by your browser and adjusted by you
Nonce - A number that increases with each bet you make

And a secret seed which will be revealed when you choose a new seed and you want to verify your rolls, this way a site can't temper with the outcome of your rolls.

https://dicesites.com/provably-fair


I've examined the connection you gave. I will have two questions.

How can I get the following values when the first starts the game?

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Clientseed: ClientSeedForDiceSites.com
Serverseed unhashed: 293d5d2ddd365f54759283a8097ab2640cbe6f8864adc2b1b31e65c14c999f04
Serverseed hashed: 5ac59780d512265230d5efb3cc238886dc1b457a80b54fbf1f920b99c6505801
Nonce: for the first bet it is 0 on this dice site (PrimeDice)

Secondly, how are these values assigned time? So I should know the value of "Serverseed hashed" before I throw the dice. Then when I dice, I should send "Clientseed" and "Nonce" to the server. After I have done the server calculation, it should send me the value "Serverseed unhashed" and the dice result. If there is a sequence like this, the "provably fair" statement would be correct.



Everything is assigned by the site, except the Clientseed this you can choose yourself. The rest is available to see except the Serverseed unhashed this will become visible after you choose a new seed and want to verify your previous bets. The unhashed server seed doesn't come available after every roll, that is the old provably fair system which made it hard to verify thousands of rolls and required a new unhashed serverseed after every roll, so now they implemented the Nonce into the calculation which increases with every roll made to make it easier for us to verify but still being a provably fair dice site.

Just try it out with different chosen client seeds on primedice and use the verifier of dicesites.com to see if it shows the same results.
https://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier or seuntjies dicebot also provides a good verifier.
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 01:47:04 PM
#68
They are reliable and there is no argue about it. With strategy of luck depends from player.
I think a lot of people make a mistake with dice strategies, strategy depends from bankroll and there is a mistake that people make, they try to use strategies with small bankrolls and of course thy end up with losing everything.
Not all of them. There are many scam dice sites also.
Those who are maintaining their reputation on this forum could be reliable and we can rely on them for our gambling purposes and for investment opportunities too.

Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
That is the reason they are providing a feature to cross check their seeds. If a site has "provably fair system" enabled then we can trust them. They cannot cheat you by their preset programming codes.
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 01:39:00 PM
#67
They are reliable and there is no argue about it. With strategy of luck depends from player.
I think a lot of people make a mistake with dice strategies, strategy depends from bankroll and there is a mistake that people make, they try to use strategies with small bankrolls and of course thy end up with losing everything.
member
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February 28, 2017, 01:27:07 PM
#66
I read the messages. Everyone wrote the same thing. Everybody said your safety is provable. Do you explain to me how it can be proven? I mean companies that have signature campaigns on the forum. So primedice, kingdice, 777coin, bitvest etc.
Do you openly explain how technically safe companies are like?

Thanks.

It can be proven easily, a dice site gives you a:

Serverseed - provided by the gambling site
Clientseed - provided by your browser and adjusted by you
Nonce - A number that increases with each bet you make

And a secret seed which will be revealed when you choose a new seed and you want to verify your rolls, this way a site can't temper with the outcome of your rolls.

https://dicesites.com/provably-fair


I've examined the connection you gave. I will have two questions.

How can I get the following values when the first starts the game?

Quote
Clientseed: ClientSeedForDiceSites.com
Serverseed unhashed: 293d5d2ddd365f54759283a8097ab2640cbe6f8864adc2b1b31e65c14c999f04
Serverseed hashed: 5ac59780d512265230d5efb3cc238886dc1b457a80b54fbf1f920b99c6505801
Nonce: for the first bet it is 0 on this dice site (PrimeDice)

Secondly, how are these values assigned time? So I should know the value of "Serverseed hashed" before I throw the dice. Then when I dice, I should send "Clientseed" and "Nonce" to the server. After I have done the server calculation, it should send me the value "Serverseed unhashed" and the dice result. If there is a sequence like this, the "provably fair" statement would be correct.

legendary
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February 28, 2017, 07:31:41 AM
#65


how can be sure that the edge is not more than what they display on their website, like 1.01%? there is no way tot ell this right? i think it's better to stick with the biggest dicegame, they have bigger chance to be fair than the new one at this point there is nothing else we can do if it can not be proven that they are not cheating

Many gambling gurus out there can verify if a dice site is legit or not.

Plus reputable dice site have a way to verified if a certain is roll is fair or not. So much technical if a user doesn't have an idea about what it is all about.
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 06:58:46 AM
#64
Yes SafeDice offers the lowest House edge at 0.5%. Only crypto games does the 0% edge happy hour.
This is the first time i am hearing about a 0% house edge and what happens while rolling in during that time.The level of busting reduced.How much time will they provide these house edges as happy hours. If they could reduce the house edge so easily then they could literally increase the edge too right . How can we identify whether they are playing with the house edge.Is there any solution for that.

Really you need these questions answered? Sometimes it surprises me what kind of people are playing these gambling games without any research on how it works.

It's simple with a 0% house edge playing on 2x would be at a 50% chance, with 1% house edge it is 49.5% with a 0.5% house edge it is 49.75% chance.

With a 1% HE:
The house edge is built in to the payouts. When you play the 50% game and win, you receive 1.98 times your stake as your payout. If there was no house edge, you would receive 2 times your stake. 1.98 is 1% less than 2. That is the house edge.

So when the HE is raised or lowered you can see it by the payout/chance, so they can't raise or lower it without you noticing.

how can be sure that the edge is not more than what they display on their website, like 1.01%? there is no way tot ell this right? i think it's better to stick with the biggest dicegame, they have bigger chance to be fair than the new one at this point there is nothing else we can do if it can not be proven that they are not cheating

Really? Are you kidding me!  Undecided

You can see it by the outcome of the rolls or you never went to kindergarten to learn baisics math, and you can verify your rolls with the given seeds and client seed which can be set by yourself. Read my previous posts in this thread and go learn about provably fair. No wonder people still play at sites like 999dice or gooddice if you represent the average gambler.
legendary
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February 28, 2017, 05:56:14 AM
#63
Yes SafeDice offers the lowest House edge at 0.5%. Only crypto games does the 0% edge happy hour.
This is the first time i am hearing about a 0% house edge and what happens while rolling in during that time.The level of busting reduced.How much time will they provide these house edges as happy hours. If they could reduce the house edge so easily then they could literally increase the edge too right . How can we identify whether they are playing with the house edge.Is there any solution for that.

Really you need these questions answered? Sometimes it surprises me what kind of people are playing these gambling games without any research on how it works.

It's simple with a 0% house edge playing on 2x would be at a 50% chance, with 1% house edge it is 49.5% with a 0.5% house edge it is 49.75% chance.

With a 1% HE:
The house edge is built in to the payouts. When you play the 50% game and win, you receive 1.98 times your stake as your payout. If there was no house edge, you would receive 2 times your stake. 1.98 is 1% less than 2. That is the house edge.

So when the HE is raised or lowered you can see it by the payout/chance, so they can't raise or lower it without you noticing.

how can be sure that the edge is not more than what they display on their website, like 1.01%? there is no way tot ell this right? i think it's better to stick with the biggest dicegame, they have bigger chance to be fair than the new one at this point there is nothing else we can do if it can not be proven that they are not cheating
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 05:23:32 AM
#62
There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
Most of the bitcoin Dice sites are reliable. I don't think that it is programmed tow in the site.
You can always check review sites and look which sites are reliable. There a lot of review sites that explain perfectly if the sites are reliable or not.
Checking always its reputation if we plan to play on a certain dice site and the community will give out their views and experience related to the site which is really a good preference or indication that we seek that would able to convince us to play on that site.
newbie
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February 28, 2017, 05:12:29 AM
#61
There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable?
So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
Most of the bitcoin Dice sites are reliable. I don't think that it is programmed tow in the site.
You can always check review sites and look which sites are reliable. There a lot of review sites that explain perfectly if the sites are reliable or not.
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 05:09:06 AM
#60
Yes SafeDice offers the lowest House edge at 0.5%. Only crypto games does the 0% edge happy hour.
This is the first time i am hearing about a 0% house edge and what happens while rolling in during that time.The level of busting reduced.How much time will they provide these house edges as happy hours. If they could reduce the house edge so easily then they could literally increase the edge too right . How can we identify whether they are playing with the house edge.Is there any solution for that.

Really you need these questions answered? Sometimes it surprises me what kind of people are playing these gambling games without any research on how it works.

It's simple with a 0% house edge playing on 2x would be at a 50% chance, with 1% house edge it is 49.5% with a 0.5% house edge it is 49.75% chance.

With a 1% HE:
The house edge is built in to the payouts. When you play the 50% game and win, you receive 1.98 times your stake as your payout. If there was no house edge, you would receive 2 times your stake. 1.98 is 1% less than 2. That is the house edge.

So when the HE is raised or lowered you can see it by the payout/chance, so they can't raise or lower it without you noticing.
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 04:46:49 AM
#59
Yes SafeDice offers the lowest House edge at 0.5%. Only crypto games does the 0% edge happy hour.
This is the first time i am hearing about a 0% house edge and what happens while rolling in during that time.The level of busting reduced.How much time will they provide these house edges as happy hours. If they could reduce the house edge so easily then they could literally increase the edge too right . How can we identify whether they are playing with the house edge.Is there any solution for that.
hero member
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February 28, 2017, 03:43:46 AM
#58
Some sites says that they are provably fair and no scam, though there are still gamblers that are being scammed at their site. And dice games are really random, you cant ensure your profit in these activities, must try investing than gambling.

If you choose to play on trusted and reputed sites, then no need to worry about the site may scam you unless if you break their terms then they may block your account. So you make sure read site terms and conditions before you choose them. These reputed sites knows how to make a money from this business without scamming people so mostly they will not cheat any players.
and because they already have reputation and they already establish this business for them to earn money i guess they will not ruin business while knowing that the business is giving them good profits unless the site already falling that's why choose wisely and play with those that already proven its existence, just follow the rules and play comfortably.

the gambling site that have good reputation and have a good service will makes their members enjoy while they are playing gambling in their sites and sometimes the sites make an event for the members. the good site will doing every way to make their members to feel safe and they will give the best games to play and finally the site will get a good return which is big profit.
sr. member
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February 28, 2017, 03:28:42 AM
#57
I read the messages. Everyone wrote the same thing. Everybody said your safety is provable. Do you explain to me how it can be proven? I mean companies that have signature campaigns on the forum. So primedice, kingdice, 777coin, bitvest etc.
Do you openly explain how technically safe companies are like?

Thanks.

It can be proven easily, a dice site gives you a:

Serverseed - provided by the gambling site
Clientseed - provided by your browser and adjusted by you
Nonce - A number that increases with each bet you make

And a secret seed which will be revealed when you choose a new seed and you want to verify your rolls, this way a site can't temper with the outcome of your rolls.

https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
legendary
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February 28, 2017, 01:45:53 AM
#56
Some sites says that they are provably fair and no scam, though there are still gamblers that are being scammed at their site. And dice games are really random, you cant ensure your profit in these activities, must try investing than gambling.

making profit is not equal to not being scam. i have a feeling that you are calling "losing" as "scam" and these two are completely different things.
the site's being provably fair can easily be tested and proved. it is not something too complicated. it is actually very easy and most sites even provide enough information for newbies who have no idea what it means so they can read, check and make sure about it.
but again none of this means you will win if the site is provably fair. being fair means your result was perfectly random, and that is your luck to lose or win the game.
hero member
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February 27, 2017, 11:52:37 PM
#55
Some sites says that they are provably fair and no scam, though there are still gamblers that are being scammed at their site. And dice games are really random, you cant ensure your profit in these activities, must try investing than gambling.

If you choose to play on trusted and reputed sites, then no need to worry about the site may scam you unless if you break their terms then they may block your account. So you make sure read site terms and conditions before you choose them. These reputed sites knows how to make a money from this business without scamming people so mostly they will not cheat any players.
and because they already have reputation and they already establish this business for them to earn money i guess they will not ruin business while knowing that the business is giving them good profits unless the site already falling that's why choose wisely and play with those that already proven its existence, just follow the rules and play comfortably.
legendary
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February 27, 2017, 10:46:45 PM
#54
Some sites says that they are provably fair and no scam, though there are still gamblers that are being scammed at their site. And dice games are really random, you cant ensure your profit in these activities, must try investing than gambling.

If you choose to play on trusted and reputed sites, then no need to worry about the site may scam you unless if you break their terms then they may block your account. So you make sure read site terms and conditions before you choose them. These reputed sites knows how to make a money from this business without scamming people so mostly they will not cheat any players.
hero member
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February 27, 2017, 08:50:25 PM
#53
You never know it totally differs from different users and their mentality or trust on the site. For me I don't really use dice sites a lot to gamble but I do invest in them and get decent returns. If you are looking for investing in any dice site then I would recommend you to only keep your investment for maximum of 6 months because mostly after one year we see most of the sites scamming it's users and investors.

Yes it's better if you are going to invest to these dice sites which is going to give you some reasonable returns after 6 months+. But of course playing on dice sites is up to us, sometimes if you can see bigger chance of winning with dice, you can play with it anytime. Just choose those that are being used by many and has good reputation.
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