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Topic: Are institutional investors capable of selling their bitcoins? (Read 584 times)

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Firstly, I would want you to ponder on how they bought those coins, simple logic they sell off whenever they are ready and I know that they won't stand up in a day and sell off all their coin and even if they decided to sell all off I can guarantee you that they will get sellers for it at whatsoever price it becomes. Real Investors won't consider the amount they are spending in buying the coin but see afar the profit it will yield after procurement.
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I think they are literally no plan at all of selling their Bitcoins for a specific time even if the price of bitcoin drops hard sooner.
because they trust bitcoin that will come back hyping in future so Just like the Early adopter did, these institutional investors now are doing what we popularly called HODL and i think this is what they  really tended to do thats why they are still accumulating even if the value is increasing more and more.
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The answer is yes, they can sell their bitcoins, they have their reasons to buy bitcoin and hodling for the sake of the other people isn't one of them. This thread wouldn't exist if OP asked himself as to what he/she is going to do if OP has a lot of bitcoin which is pretty obvious that OP will sell those bitcoins.
this is the common answer that we will get in this question but it isnt
. this is why op ask us to visit the link because they expose the truth about institutional investor  .
if they are blindly buying btc , they could also care less selling thier btc . investing has risks and an investor should accept if the company that they invest in wont pay them anything . in terms of liquidating , institutions can sell large amount and there will always be buyers at any price point
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The answer is yes, they can sell their bitcoins, they have their reasons to buy bitcoin and hodling for the sake of the other people isn't one of them. This thread wouldn't exist if OP asked himself as to what he/she is going to do if OP has a lot of bitcoin which is pretty obvious that OP will sell those bitcoins.
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I see no reason to even doubt it. Institutional investors are businessmen like everyone else, only larger. They also invest in cryptocurrency to make a profit. This means that they can also sell it at any time, if they deem it necessary. It is generally accepted that institutional investors buy cryptocurrency for a longer period. This is partly true. They have much better planning than an individual and urgent purchases are less common. However, all the same, these are the same business entities as others.
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From the little experience am having and from the research have done I don't think any institutional investors will definitely sell of there bitcoin currently I see no reason why they sell there bitcoin now because they know that bitcoin current price is still very low which they won't really want to sell now everybody really want to make huge profits and they know bitcoin will pump in the nearest future. If the institutional investors decide to sell off there coin definitely the price of bitcoin will drop a little bit but there are lot's of investors that are ready to buy the coin instantly and bitcoin will still pump back.
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Of course yes like what Tesla did few days ago where they said that they sold 10% of their holdings to provide liquidity from the market. There is no problem if those institutional investors sell their holdings, if they do there are many small institutions and retailers prepared to buy it. What I just don't like is the media makes it a big issue and make it looks like a bad news to scare those weak hands causing for the market to dump hard sometimes.

At this time I don't think any institutional hodler will be ready to dump significant number of their hodling in trying to risk the dumping of price. More investors are ready to share from that hodling instantly. I think what can cause such dump is when there is little sell and demand and market becomes less volatile then these may create panic and dumping out of fear can begin to happen. And if for example that there is a bad news from either channels that have approved the used of bitcoin but even with that, price may not drop because P2P is still available for use.
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Bitcoin fell sharply in April and quickly recovered. Along with that event is the fact that Tesla has announced 10% profit-taking on the amount of Bitcoin it has purchased previously.
We don't know when institutions sell their Bitcoins, but if they all sell-off, the value of Bitcoin will drop drastically. I think they will have a plan to run away from the market without disturbing the entire market.
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Bitcoin has increased in value significantly since institutions took notice and bought Bitcoin. I think they will sell their portfolios to take profit. We mustn't know how they will do it. They cannot sell them all at once because it is unwise to have a good profit.
Take profit is part of investment and it is bound to happen.
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This can be your concern but it not an issue in this bull market, just look at what Elon Musk said, he said Tesla sold their Bitcoin because they want to know how liquid the market is and instead of the price of BTC to dump base on this news, it pumps. I believe they market will withstand any dump by any institutional investors
In bull market it's obvious that the liquidity is overflowing but in a bearish market when people are too afraid of buying it might be a problem however not as big problem as most of people gonna imagine and it's true that the price dumps after the news coming out meaning actually the crypto market could withstand such massive dump if there's no fud accompanying. But maybe in next few years a sell off of few hundred million dollars not gonna be as impactful as today and tesla probably testing the water and make prediction on the future liquidity based on that.
we see the crypto market as sensitive to news. but this is more focused on the psychology game of each trader. I think this is what whales use to make a profit by exploiting these weaknesses. people will tend to be fomo if they see prices continue to rise, without them thinking that there will be a correction that we can use to buy, that is one example
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This can be your concern but it not an issue in this bull market, just look at what Elon Musk said, he said Tesla sold their Bitcoin because they want to know how liquid the market is and instead of the price of BTC to dump base on this news, it pumps. I believe they market will withstand any dump by any institutional investors
In bull market it's obvious that the liquidity is overflowing but in a bearish market when people are too afraid of buying it might be a problem however not as big problem as most of people gonna imagine and it's true that the price dumps after the news coming out meaning actually the crypto market could withstand such massive dump if there's no fud accompanying. But maybe in next few years a sell off of few hundred million dollars not gonna be as impactful as today and tesla probably testing the water and make prediction on the future liquidity based on that.
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Yes they can sell their bitcoins, it's just that they are on the long-term so it doesn't look like they are going to sell, they get in bitcoin to profit so why can't they sell their bitcoin.
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Now, a very common logic, which institution would like to buy btc at $100k or even at million dollars when the seller institution is already taking out big profits in fiat by selling their btc to the buyer Institution? Won't that btc be coming with an impermanent loss if the price dumps later? Do you think there is any point where a stagnancy of liquidity or financial crunch may affect the price of btc so badly that it can reverse down like it did in the 2018 crash?

One thing to mention about here is Bitcoin won't reach 100,000$ "hypothetically" if there is no demand pushing it to do so, Bitcoin going up to that value means there was a sudden increase in demand even though it went up. Your other problem with regards to them selling their cryptocurrencies it will always be a double edged sword as they can sell it all at once and do a short but in this strategy they wouldn't be able to sell all of their holdings at the highest possible price as they have put a lot of pressure on the sellers' side so the most smart thing for them to do is to sell it in trenches for them to maximize the highest profit possible while not influencing the price of Bitcoin.
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This can be your concern but it not an issue in this bull market, just look at what Elon Musk said, he said Tesla sold their Bitcoin because they want to know how liquid the market is and instead of the price of BTC to dump base on this news, it pumps. I believe they market will withstand any dump by any institutional investors
They can really give out significant impact in the market once these big institutional investor or companies would really tend to sell out their coins on a specific period of time

but to think that there are lots who are really goes after on a cheaper coin in the market which means when it comes to support lines then there are lots who are been longing for these dips.

They can sell all they want but for sure there are people who are ready to buy when its already cheap because they've known that it will just make some recovery later on.
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This can be your concern but it not an issue in this bull market, just look at what Elon Musk said, he said Tesla sold their Bitcoin because they want to know how liquid the market is and instead of the price of BTC to dump base on this news, it pumps. I believe they market will withstand any dump by any institutional investors
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Of course yes like what Tesla did few days ago where they said that they sold 10% of their holdings to provide liquidity from the market. There is no problem if those institutional investors sell their holdings, if they do there are many small institutions and retailers prepared to buy it. What I just don't like is the media makes it a big issue and make it looks like a bad news to scare those weak hands causing for the market to dump hard sometimes.
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If Tesla could sell then anybody can. You really shouldn't worry about it.

The fact that they're interested in buying makes Bitcoin popular and strengthens its market position. If they later sell it will cause normal waves of volatility that would be there anyway.
It's the aftertaste that matters. People saw them buy and saw them profit > they saw information in the news> they will think they can profit too. Institutions that made money once will come back to buy again.

Don't worry about short-term volatility, focus on years to come.
That's what I don't get about this question, I mean everyone has the right be it whale or individual investors, unless bitcoin is a widely adopted currency then it is pretty questionable that they are selling their bitcoins if they can directly use it to buy commodities. Traders have to worry about short-term since they can benefit from it.
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Because since the beginning the institution buying Bitcoin was indeed the goal to get profit, so I agree with your opinion, that whenever
an institution sells their Bitcoin, it is impossible for them to sell Bitcoin when the price is dumped. Because they definitely don't want to suffer a loss.
So if Bitcoin dumps, I am sure that institutions will not panic sell, because institutions that buy Bitcoin will buy with the extra money they have.
Therefore the institution will continue to hold Bitcoin, until the price goes up again. This is what ultimately makes Bitcoin fundamentals even stronger.
Yeah, it is just a basic thought large investors enter the market to earn profit not to waste their money and time from it so if they saw the market dipped, either they will buy even more or will just hold. The one who will only sell at this dip is those individuals who have a weak hand, panicking over a little dump. That is why I am pretty sure that Bitcoin will push further reaching 6 digits sooner and then perhaps that would be the start for them to make a profit. This bull cycle will not go off that easily because they will make a way for it to not enter the bear cycle until they get their targeted profit.

If we look at the price of Bitcoin which has now managed to rise to the price of $ 54k, our assumptions regarding institutions that will not sell
Bitcoin when the price drops have been proven correct. Because the rise in the price of Bitcoin is also evident when Bitcoin falls below the $ 50k
price, that sells Bitcoin it is only people who have a weak hand. And I really hope the Bitcoin price this year can go up to the $ 100k price that
Bitcoin holders expect.
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Oh wow, I didn't know that website existed--I'm definitely bookmarking it, as I'm curious about that kind of data and I lose track mentally of which companies have bought bitcoin and how much, etc.  Thanks for including that link in your post, OP.

Now, a very common logic, which institution would like to buy btc at $100k or even at million dollars when the seller institution is already taking out big profits in fiat by selling their btc to the buyer Institution? Won't that btc be coming with an impermanent loss if the price dumps later?
I'm not sure I fully understand your question--nobody knows how high bitcoin is going to go, so it isn't necessarily true that buying it at a price of, say, $100k would be screwing the buyer by guaranteeing them a loss.  Nor do I think that there need to be big buyers at the ready in order for any of these corporations to sell their bitcoin.  It's quite possible to sell a huge amount over an extended period of time, which is exactly how mutual funds or other big investors sell huge chunks of stock.  They don't just dump it all on the market at once, since that would drive the price down.  Nor do they have to sell everything all at once to another buyer. 
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This guys are the top of the list and can i say that list look really robust! Wink  no doubt institutions are getting their hands on btc and accumulating, something i think retailers, individuals should emulate,
An institution like MicroStrategy inc i don't think will sell their holdings just like that, even if they intend to do so at later years, it will be done partially in other not to affect the market price too much, they are at the top of the list and control a reasonable percent, they know what is good for business which means selling may not be part of their agenda at the moment.
It is challenging though to see such list, makes you wanna accumulate evey little sat you can get hold of.
Why nobody talks about grayscale? I mean they are told to be holding over half a million bitcoins, is that wrong? When you google grayscale bitcoin holdings it shows around 640k bitcoins in their reserves, that looks like around 35 billion dollars.

I know it could be false flag, and I know it could be wrong numbers, if that was true it would have been a huge news and everyone would talk about it. But if it is wrong, why are they publishing that number? Why do they say they have that much money? Are they lying about how much bitcoin they have?

If they are not lying then what does it mean for everyone else, we are talking about just one place having 35 billion dollars worth of bitcoin in their accounts and that is a big deal, it should have been much bigger news if that's true. I am confused about them, I don't know what is going on with them.
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