Topic: Are institutional investors capable of selling their bitcoins? - page 2. (Read 515 times)

If Tesla could sell then anybody can. You really shouldn't worry about it.

The fact that they're interested in buying makes Bitcoin popular and strengthens its market position. If they later sell it will cause normal waves of volatility that would be there anyway.
It's the aftertaste that matters. People saw them buy and saw them profit > they saw information in the news> they will think they can profit too. Institutions that made money once will come back to buy again.

Don't worry about short-term volatility, focus on years to come.

They will sell to whoever will want to buy at the price they will agree upon. It is totally same as if we trade. And the same as country treasuries will trade in decades to come. Price can never be negative as was the case with Oil last year. There is always a bottom price for Bitcoin. I really dont understand your concern.

Institutional investors will use reputable platforms that are properly regulated to buy and sell their coins... some are even buying directly from the miners, because they are cautious about buying coins that might be implicated in crimes. (Most of the coins involved with crimes are pushed through Mixer services, so nobody will ever know that it was used in crime) 

The problem come in when these people start using OTC services, because those services do not have any influence on the Bitcoin price. (Exchange prices are commonly used to determine the price)

I am of the opinion that if a company is engaged in asset trading, then by investing its funds in Bitcoin, it will constantly benefit from reaching the next historical maximum in Bitcoin. This is how almost every trader fixes his profit, which is displayed on the cryptocurrency market and we observe constant corrections. But if we are talking about companies that have invested their funds in Bitcoin and they have no goal to receive income from trading, then they will definitely not sell Bitcoin, but will keep this asset until it increases in price as much as possible and until it capitalization will not increase tenfold. It is during the period when Bitcoin reaches such indicators that it can rightfully be considered a reliable storehouse for capital and its rate will become quite stable.

Yeah, it is just a basic thought large investors enter the market to earn profit not to waste their money and time from it so if they saw the market dipped, either they will buy even more or will just hold. The one who will only sell at this dip is those individuals who have a weak hand, panicking over a little dump. That is why I am pretty sure that Bitcoin will push further reaching 6 digits sooner and then perhaps that would be the start for them to make a profit. This bull cycle will not go off that easily because they will make a way for it to not enter the bear cycle until they get their targeted profit.

I would not agree that all these investors invest blindly, yet they are people or companies that have long-term business strategies, but it is certain that each of them involves risk - now it is only a question of how much they are really aware of that risk.


As far as I know, all American companies bought Bitcoin through OTC, and if they sell it, they will do it in the same way. Their BTC was bought from probably thousands of small sellers, and I believe it can be sold the same way without affecting the price.


We are talking about companies where money is not a problem, you forget that some companies have trillions of dollars at their disposal - for the average Joe $50k for 1 BTC is almost out of reach, but for a person like Musk it is actually a very small amount - and we all know the world is full of millionaires and billionaires, and that their number is only increasing every year.

Big correction is always a realistic option, but I think all these big investments have strengthened BTC's position in the global market - so I hope none of them will allow such big corrections as they have happened in the past.

This guys are the top of the list and can i say that list look really robust!  no doubt institutions are getting their hands on btc and accumulating, something i think retailers, individuals should emulate,
An institution like MicroStrategy inc i don't think will sell their holdings just like that, even if they intend to do so at later years, it will be done partially in other not to affect the market price too much, they are at the top of the list and control a reasonable percent, they know what is good for business which means selling may not be part of their agenda at the moment.
It is challenging though to see such list, makes you wanna accumulate evey little sat you can get hold of.

They will probably split their bitcoin into many batches instead of selling as a whole. No exchange is capable to withstand such a huge number of bitcoin without being sizzled. It is hard to track their activities since I have no information about which wallet they use to hold bitcoin. This means they might secretly sell bitcoin at a high price and buy it when it is low. With the current volume of bitcoin, I guess 24 hours are enough for them to sell all of their bitcoin

The point is, when will they do it and how can we know? Big hands are likely to control the games in a long term. They shape the market not just for the next months or the end of this year, they plan for a long term which calculated by years.

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$100000 is a big price for bitcoin. I believe $100000 is the target of selling bitcoin. Might be only 1% of institutions dare to buy bitcoin at this price.

Is it possible that the country's government will eventually consider BTC as reserve wealth like GOLD?

if so the country's government might be buying it if these institutional investors are going to sell. $100K will just be a small amount for country's funds but this is way too wishful thinking. But if all these is a bubble to them, no matter how small the price orders are and if they are willing to dump, they will dump.

Simple answer is yes, because they are like a retail investors, they just have a really big portfolio compared to a typical retail investor and it takes a lot of time to sell all of their bitcoins and other cryptocurrency since they have more. If it ever comes to them selling, there is nothing to worry because the dip that they will cause will eventually recover.

^ Probably 8-10 years is enough to study the feasibility of a business model and probably I should state the fact that institutional investors do have a lot of connections out there. Intel that they have are from left to right and I don’t think they would buy BTC without any strongly founded reason. They won’t be where they are right now if they are stupid anyway. They have something they learned internally that won’t be shown in public. And that is the reason why they make decisions like this. I doubt anyone here did believe that bitcoin would increase to at least $100,000 when it is $100 worth. Dump and whales have been there since then but the process is still the same.

Many company including tesla had a holding on bitcoin. So we are safe and they won't allow the bitcoin to less value. It's reason for the bitcoin price dump not less than a  49k$.It may be a unacceptable one. But it's true, if you deep analysis the market old chart.When the price began to reduced, it may reduced to the half the price of bitcoin. So holding make us a profit most of the time, then to sell with minimum profit.

Why wouldn't they be allowed? A company like Tesla or Microstrategy turned cash reserves into bitcoin as either a speculative investment or because they thought it would retain value better than holding cash. There's no reason they would be "unable" to reverse course and turn their bitcoin into cash. None of these companies was prohibited from buying; none of them are prohibited from selling.

Currently, there are still quite a number of companies that have not invested in bitcoin, and we know that only a few major holders such as Tesla might be able to maintain prices if there is a market cycle. but you know, why do they buy bitcoins then the price goes up? that's because they have taken it into account, and they hope that by them putting their money into bitcoin, many retail investors will follow suit. When retail investors start to put their money on a large scale, large institutions will make a profit when the price of bitcoin continues to rise

This is a really good question. If the bitcoin price rises to 100K$, what will make people or companies buy at that high price? The answer may be, in my personal opinion, that people or companies will expect the price of bitcoin to increase much higher in order to buy.
Always note that whenever the price of bitcoin rises, people will be convinced that the price will increase more than that and reach new historical peaks. This is what actually happens whenever Bitcoin reaches a new peak, skips it and reaches a higher peak, and people regret why they did not buy at that time.

If institutional investors are able to buy bitcoin, then they are able to sell the coins as well and that’s it. Although it might not be at the same rate that they bought their coins at, but they will be able to do that and sell them. And I don’t think there is going to be situation where all the whales in the market will decide to sell at once.

Everyone has a different mindset and target and that means there is not going to be such thing where they all decide to sell all their coins that they stored on the platform at once. And as for your last question on whether Bitcoin will crash like 2018, I can’t really give you an answer to that, but I think that if it should fall, it is not going to fall as low as then.

It is more about "are they even allowed" and not "are they forced to" or "how does it work" because we know some of the companies can hold it as long as possible, look at tesla they are nothing of financial and just a car company and they bought bitcoins, which means can they sell it all when they need money? Are they allowed? Grayscale turned all of their reserve cash into bitcoin, but that was "reserve" cash which means it should stay in bitcoin until they need it again, which means they suppose to sell all of them when they are trying to make a profit.

All those come down to this simple fact, if they are not allowed to sell, that is a good thing for us, but it is bad for the investor, if they are allowed to sell, that is good too because they are not selling when they can and that means they believe in it. These are the very important parts about bitcoin and institutional investors.

We are seeing some institutions are planning for long term holding of bitcoins (like they pay their employees in BTC and tweeting about future prices of bitcoins after decades etc) and most others are seeming like buying just for momentary benefits. Still, institutions are known for cashing out before anyone else so that they could enjoy all the benefits of final ATH. So, I am not expecting a different bear season from this current cycle of bitcoin markets.

Moreover there is a big possibilities for shorter or longer bull run on this cycle; usually bull run will end in December month but there cannot be any surprises if the current bull run may end in October itself or may last until the fist quarter of 2022 because now the end of bull run is purely into institutions' hand.

They think that bitcoin can be a reliable store of value and an attractive investment asset with a greater potential for long-term appreciation than holding cash.
and they are big people and have untold wealth and maybe only a small percentage are investing in bitcoin and in the long run they believe they will make a big profit if a small portion of that wealth is to buy bitcoin.
and before getting involved in bitcoin, they will learn how bitcoin works well and believe that it will provide good returns in the long run.
This is different from the big institutions or players that were involved in previous years and there is a possibility that they will sell all or part of it when it reaches yesterday's high.

Okay first of all , institutions make their own profits , therefore what they are doing here is using this profit that they have earned over the years to actually buy bitcoins and it does not mean that they are using the money of the investors!!

There might be some small companies doing that but not necessarily!!

Now ofc they won't be able to sell everything at once and at the same time *they can't* until and unless any big company ask them to exchange p2p. You should understand that dump does not make the price die in a day. It might go to 50-40-30-20-10 !! It will take time now what it means is they will have time to take an action ! Plus you seriously think they are investing so much without actually employing anyone to keep an eye on it ??

Now we have something called resistance! Well it's a scientific term but implies here also. Since with the decreasing prices there will be people like us , u , me everyone dying to buy BTC ! This will shoot up the price or in the worst case scenario give them more time to sell. They are safe. It's the last thing you should be worried about.

They are not hoarding , they are rather investing , which is a wise move considering bitcoins is kind of future for the companies who really want to stay ahead of time , make some profits and at the same time expand their business.