Are no-KYC services banned? - page 4.

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Quote from: _act_ on May 07, 2024, 06:37:45 PM

This will be the main reason. Also it is using Tor only because I noticed that the exchange has no clearnet? If clearnet is there and no mention of dirty and clean, it would have been allowed. I will be expecting the exchange to come in new way.

This is wrong.

The problem is not in "kycfree" or "only-Tor", with a 99% probability the thread was moved to the archive because the interface allows you to exchange "BTC for BTC".

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Quote from: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 06:47:14 PM

Just see what TryNinja posted above me and he's 100% correct. By the logic of this removal also maybe Bustabit should be banned because in their site they advertise mixing with just different words:

I was actually in favor of mixers being banned here but if we aren't strict on what counts as a mixer then maybe lots of services should end up banned.

This will land on this category written by theymos. As long it's not advertised to enhanced privacy-enhancing then it's good to say its not mixer

Quote from: theymos on December 01, 2023, 05:45:25 AM

1. a. Even though you can sometimes use non-mixers to mix coins by depositing and then withdrawing, this doesn't make it a mixer because this is an incidental use of the service; the service isn't advertised as privacy-enhancing.

3. ...Non-KYC services of other types are still allowed, and in many cases they are a good idea.

About the gambling sites like bustabit or any casino, i don't think you can just deposit then withdraw without wagering because your account will be flagged or its not possible to withdraw until you wager XX amount.

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Personally, i think all services that are rubbing shoulders with regulators (that we consider privacy focused) are going to be banned at some point. I am seeing the trend and we are headed for that direction. This will include no KYC exchanges, coins like monero etc.

Just a matter of time.

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Quote from: PX-Z on May 07, 2024, 06:37:54 PM

Quote from: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 06:26:56 PM

I noticed that a thread for the promotion of a new exchange openly advertising as no KYC got moved to the archival board.
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As far as I know there's no official announcement of no-KYC services being banned in this forum. But perhaps it's coming?

Your quoted post of Hhampuz answers it all, it's because of mixer-kind of service that bitcointalk doesn't want to have here.

There are still lot of services who offered non-KYC is still here, even have paid and free to use signature campaigns, so it's not about those services.

Just see what TryNinja posted above me and he's 100% correct. By the logic of this removal also maybe Bustabit should be banned because in their site they advertise mixing with just different words:

I was actually in favor of mixers being banned here but if we aren't strict on what counts as a mixer then maybe lots of services should end up banned.

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An exchange that asks no KYC, lets you deposit BTC for trading, naturally lets you withdraw BTC. You deposit dirty BTC, you withdraw "cleaner" BTC. Is that ok? Is that a mixer? Is it only a mixer if they claim to clean dirty coins, like MrStork did? At what point is my non-KYC exchange considered a mixer?

@theymos, See what you have done?

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Quote from: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 06:26:56 PM

I noticed that a thread for the promotion of a new exchange openly advertising as no KYC got moved to the archival board.
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As far as I know there's no official announcement of no-KYC services being banned in this forum. But perhaps it's coming?

Your quoted post of Hhampuz answers it all, it's because of mixer-kind of service that bitcointalk doesn't want to have here.

There are still lot of services who offered non-KYC is still here, even have paid and free to use signature campaigns, so it's not about those services.

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Quote from: Hazink on May 07, 2024, 06:30:55 PM

In addition they also offers a mixing service indirectly, even as they claims not to be a mixer, any service which offers to take your dirty coins and give you a clean one can also be considered a mixer which such is part of the service they offer.

This will be the main reason. Also it is using Tor only because I noticed that the exchange has no clearnet? If clearnet is there and no mention of dirty and clean, it would have been allowed. I will be expecting the exchange to come in new way.

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Quote from: Hazink on May 07, 2024, 06:30:55 PM

Quote from: Hhampuz on May 07, 2024, 06:27:56 PM

Quote from: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 06:26:56 PM

As far as I know there's no official announcement of no-KYC services being banned in this forum. But perhaps it's coming?

It was not allowed for having too many similarities with a mixing service, the non-kyc part was not the issue.

In addition they also offers a mixing service indirectly, even as they claims not to be a mixer, any service which offers to take your dirty coins and give you a clean one can also be considered a mixer which such is part of the service they offer.

By that logic pretty much any service that uses different inputs for withdrawals could be classified under the same category but ok, I understand that being promoted as a mixer is kinda too much.

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Quote from: Hhampuz on May 07, 2024, 06:27:56 PM

Quote from: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 06:26:56 PM

As far as I know there's no official announcement of no-KYC services being banned in this forum. But perhaps it's coming?

It was not allowed for having too many similarities with a mixing service, the non-kyc part was not the issue.

In addition they also offers a mixing service indirectly, even as they claims not to be a mixer, any service which offers to take your dirty coins and give you a clean one can also be considered a mixer which such is part of the service they offer.

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Meh.

Quote from: alani123 on May 07, 2024, 06:26:56 PM

As far as I know there's no official announcement of no-KYC services being banned in this forum. But perhaps it's coming?

It was not allowed for having too many similarities with a mixing service, the non-kyc part was not the issue.

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I noticed that a thread for the promotion of a new exchange openly advertising as no KYC got moved to the archival board. Link

The promotion manager moved it voluntarily?

Quote from: Hhampuz on May 07, 2024, 04:40:32 PM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on May 07, 2024, 04:33:22 PM

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A new signature campaign "MrStork Exchange Service" has been opened by the campaign manager Hhampuz.

I know this isn't the discussion topic , but I'll be brief: The campaign was moved to the board archival, I don't understand what happened, I'm just speculating Huh

It got classified as a mixer after users complained, which is totally fine. For the record I messaged theymos about launching this campaign a few days ago and would not have posted it without getting the green light on it.

No harm done!

As far as I know there's no official announcement of no-KYC services being banned in this forum. But perhaps it's coming?

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