Topic: Are the Western people very apolitical? (Read 353 times)

I want to make one more post to express my pain, since it seems that there is no country on Earth where I could live. I hate Russia, but only in the Russian Web I am able to find forums where I can talk about political science.
Now I hope, that when a civil war occurs in the USA, the Western world will start painfully getting rid of this s..t. Maybe youtube bloggers like Derek Muller will start talking about politics, and luring the viewers from TV…

Strong position of third or fourth party in our country's politics. Those parties have always played a controversial role and are eager to create a mess in the country. The common people are always disoriented by it and are left out of the normal process of elections including the establishment of democracy. Many people in the western world including America have been putting pressure or threats on the current government in many ways.

I am afraid that even different Republican candidates are different sides of the same coin too. For example, Vivek Ramaswamy offers cryptocurrencies support which seems good, but he also promises to abandon Ukraine, so for people like me it would be is impossible to vote for him. There is no politician which offers only things which will be supported by most people, because the politicians in general have a kind of "price fixing".

It does not look that way in any way. You are parroting the Ruzzian propaganda that is trying desperately to show Putin as an international leader. He is not, the only nations that support him are Iran, North Korea and similar regimes, any other nation is just trying to keep Putin away from their soil, to avoid having to arrest him and cause an international incident.

- The US has not invaded Ukraine, Putin did. He is a threat.
- The investment in BRICS has not changes, the economic ties between countries do not change just because Putin makes a discourse in the local Ruzzian TV.

All noise, no substance as usual, only for people like you dumBAss.

What does a conspiracy of billionaires have to do with the trillionaires? Nobody was talking about billionaires or conspiracies. Besides, Jesus said in Luke 11:18: So, why would there even be a conspiracy? It's all a show to take in the suckers among the people.

For example. Everybody thinks that Russia is against the US. Everybody thinks that the sanctions were done to weaken Russia. In fact, those sanctions have strengthened Russia and the BRICS nations. So it backfired - at least it looks that way. But they knew that the sanctions would strengthen Russia. That's why they did them. It's all part of the unification of the one-world-government. Trick the people into thinking that there is a major fight going on, when it is all designed for further unification... behind the backs of the people.

Sure, but why, if there is a conspiracy of billionaires, would they work against each other like that?

Doesn't sound like a very efficient conspiracy theory to me...

Okay, I'll spell it out for you. Money and control.

The Republican Party and the Democratic Party are two sides of the same coin. And neither side is focused on getting rid of the corrupt banking system. Both parties want to enhance and use the banking system more than they are using it already.

Where is money located? In the banking system. Big money people LOVE money and never have enough money. Money buys them control and everything else they want in life. So, they will support the Parties that focus on anything other than the corruption in the banking system and the money... so they get to keep more money and more control.

I definitely don't trust the polls in Russia--and that's the whole point.

The reason they obtain this "loyalty" is because there are no constitutional protections for a free press like there are in the US and other free countries. Just saying, "democracy" alone doesn't get you anywhere per se.

I am not sure this is correct. You should not trust the polls in Russia: it is forbidden to say there that you are against the war or that you want to give some territories to Ukraine, so most people just don’t answer anything in these polls. More interesting are some psychological researches, which reveal strange Freudian effects; you can watch this information here:

https://youtu.be/9_0E9IzXT34

It seems that the Russians now have “ultra-loyalist” mentality and they are ready to support everything the power will suggest – from returning Crimea to Ukraine to starting a nuclear war.

Again, why would these wealthy people back both Trump and Biden?

I answered your question. But you seem to be like so many that simply don't understand. So, rather than answer it again, I'll post the link to my comment where I answered it. Let's see if you can understand the answer now that you know that it is there - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63435668.

As far as the wealthy who control the CIA, they are the owners of The Federal Reserve Bank. How do we know? All the banks in the US are tied to the Fed. They all create new money out of the promissory notes that they get for the loans they make. In other words, they get loan repayment twice. Once in the borrower's repayment over the years. But the first time in the signed promissory note that they convert into money. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Tom+Schauf+bank+freedom&ia=web

Yes, but not of "smart country", rather and educated society as I said. Now if you are a college student in US that may be completely different depending on your Uni.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/well-developed-public-education-system


do not expect an "answer" as you or I would commonly understand from "dumBAss".

You never answered the question. If the CIA controls everything on behalf of the super-wealthy, then why do you care about electoral politics? Why do you advocate people vote for one party or another if it doesn't matter?

Also, who are these "wealthy" who control the CIA? It seems to be that there are very VERY wealthy people like Michael Bloomberg on the side of the Democrats and Rupert Murdoch on the side of the Republicans and they seem to want opposite parties to win the election. How do you explain that?

You could contact the CIA in Langley, VA. The specifics of what they do and why are only known to them, and the wealthy who pull their strings.

So the CIA controls voting? Interesting.

Why did the CIA choose Trump in 2016, and then Biden in 2020? Who will they choose in 2024?

And if the CIA chooses our politicians, then why especially do you care about the subject of politics? Seems like a waste of time if the outcome is already determined and out of your control.

Also, what else does the CIA control? There was a restaurant I really liked in my area that went out of business. Everybody liked it and it appeared to be doing great, and yet it failed. Could that be the CIA too?

But these things that you say are shown to not be absolutely correct. Consider what Stalin said, "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."

"But that was Stalin," you say. But the Bolsheviks, from whom Stalin sprang, were financed by the US and rich people from the US - and other countries - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=who+financed+the+bolsheviks%3F&ia=web.

In fact, the the Ukraine elections since 2014 were influenced by the CIA against the people... just as the CIA controls the results of the US elections. The electronic voting machines have back doors that allow them to be controlled by 'hackers' over the Internet. Consider http://www.theorangerevolution.com/orangerevolution0.html.

The point is that voting decides little. Rather, voting is a pacification program used by the powerful (the CIA) to pacify the people into thinking that they did their best, or that they won, so that they don't openly revolt and straighten things out. Something like that would take power away from the rich, and the rich just couldn't stand something like that.

Of course, if I were a very wealthy person who was 300 years old, I would probably want to hide this fact from people. Why? Because the rich who are evil are fools. They are going to die someday, and they will ultimately have to face God to account for the evil they have done.

Actually, I do not believe it is fair to compare those countries with other republics like the United States or any western country where people is allowed to vote. The biggest difference in my opinion is the fact people in those two eastern countries do not even have the choice to vote for other parties which are not the communist party of China and the communist party of north korea. In those circumstances I would even say those people have an actual vote, I would only say people have a vote in places where there are several options for parties to reach the presidency or head of state. I would even put in doubt the status of USA as an actual complete democracy, since the president is not elected directly and there is a very strong duopoly of power between the republican and de democrat party.

If both the Red and the blue parties are aware people will continue to vote for both of them no matter what, then they won't care for actual policies and solving the most important problems of their society, engage in corruption, among other things. If there was a big chance of the third party gaining force there in the north, those two parties would realize they cannot just to continue to engage in political shows and lose time which could be used to improve the life of the average voter.

Hi there. American here. Do you have an example of a "smart" country that demonstrates how "ignorant" the US is in comparison?

A direct democracy  of "high frequency consulting" regime in my view may work in Switzerland, but it also creates too much overhead (people voting takes time, reading the proposals takes time, understanding what you are actually voting may take a lifetime of study). It also requires a population that is quite well educated and very aware of the effects of populism and manipulation.

The population in the US has been specifically kept ignorant. Their secondary programme is a joke.

Are the Western people very apolitical?


No. Westerners love politics. Watch this:

The Ballad of Maddog Quinn - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRsXa3-LCc0.

Then watch Alex Jones predict war between the US and Russia. Sunday Live: Globalists Attempt to Cover Up Vax Deaths as Blue Cities Announce New Covid Measures - https://banned.video/watch?id=65920851be3fe4c20c4c7aac.