Are the Western people very apolitical? - page 3.

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Quote from: GrLinkey on December 29, 2023, 06:44:01 AM

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and I think that the reason is the fact that the Western democracies are mostly not democracies indeed; the ruling elites make the people stupid and apolitical, because overwise the people can think about a revolt.

I live in a "Western democracy" and it's... a democracy, last I checked.

Maybe instead of being "stupid", like you say, maybe most people here haven't engaged the violent overthrow of our government because they are... smart? If Trump would have succeeded in his attack on our government a few years ago everybody here would have kissed their portfolios goodbye (including your crypto, which would have crashed along with everything else).

Revolting against the established liberal democratic government, it turns out, is really really REALLY bad for business--especially if that country was the home of the financial world's reserve currency for instance.

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Quote from: ServerWhere on December 29, 2023, 09:42:57 AM

Can you go and protest against the president of many countries, including yours? No, you cannot, you will get arrested. In the countries you call "Western democracies," people have political freedoms and they can say or do whatever they want.

Yes, you can protest against Biden or Trump. But they are not the real rulers of the USA; the latter are rather anonymous.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on December 29, 2023, 08:07:07 AM

Maybe you are looking in the wrong forums?

I can see hundreds of political-based podcasts coming from the western world of various youtube channels.

Can you provide some links to these podcasts?

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@GrLinkey These two statements "Western democracies are mostly not democracies indeed" and "the ruling elites make the people stupid and apolitical, because overwise the people can think about a revolt." is pure nonsense. They are completely inappropriate statements.

Can you go and protest against the president of many countries, including yours? No, you cannot, you will get arrested. In the countries you call "Western democracies," people have political freedoms and they can say or do whatever they want.

There is not anything like "Western people" in the first place. The Western culture has many common things in terms of social and political standards - political pluralism, freedom to express opinion without being persecuted by the government, freedom of expression, freedom of the press, and many other freedoms, that do not exist in many countries. Western societies and multicultural, multi-ethnical, and multi-racial, therefore very complex. Still, cultures and habits in the different countries vary. For that reason there are no "Western people" - there re "Western societies".

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Western people are not inherently apolitical. Some people may choose not to engage in political activities or discussions but there are many Western people who are actively involved in politics & express their opinions on various issues. Political engagement varies among individuals & can be influenced by factors such as personal beliefs, interests & societal context. It would be inaccurate to generalise all Western people as apolitical as political participation is diverse & can take various forms.

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Nerds are different from people who engage in political discussions/debates. Everywhere people tend to talk about their political structure either positively or negatively and there is no exception, except for people from North Korea.

Maybe you are looking in the wrong forums?

I can see hundreds of political-based podcasts coming from the western world of various youtube channels.

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Well this forum is mainly about bitcoin so it is only understandable if the people participating in here are going to want to talk about bitcoin more if we are just talking about this forum i would say that people from the western are just as equally involved and invested in politics however i would like to note that it seems like they do not really care much about politics in other countries as opposed to other countries like the ones you mentioned and more they seem to hold more knowledge and interest about politics in general whether it is within their own nation or not

But if we are talking about western people in general i can say that most of the youngsters are much involved in politics not only within their country but also in others

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I live in Russia (please note that I support Ukraine). I consider myself as a nerd, prefer talking about science and philosophy on science forums. And I found that the Western science forums are less interesting for me, because they ban for philosophy, politics and new theories (speculation). I was also unable to find interesting English-speaking political forums; and I have also heard that on Reddit it is known that people there who write in English are often not from Europe/USA, but from India or China.
Do you agree with that? Did you notice on this forum, that most nerds here are not from the Western world but from Russia, India and so on? I mean, that people from Russia can show interest to cryptocurrencies just for this interest, while the Western people must have monetary motivation in this to support the cryptocurrencies discussions.
This is very sad if this is true, and I think that the reason is the fact that the Western democracies are mostly not democracies indeed; the ruling elites make the people stupid and apolitical, because overwise the people can think about a revolt.

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