Are we all fools on believing the word "HOLD"? - page 21.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 20, 2019, 04:46:20 AM

1) Atlant
2) Edgeless
3) Centra
4) Humaniq
5) Matchpool
6) Lunyr
7) KIN
8.) FUEL
9) SONM
10)NPXS

Please tell me if I should still expect I will be profitable or just give up now already.

I think that there is a difference between investing in bitcoin or major altcoins like eth and ltc, and in these types of altcoins you listed, which really should be considered more speculating than investing.

With bitcoin or ethereum there is a much stronger market and you can be more sure (though not 100% in anything) that regardless of what happens there is a huge amount of infrastructure, investment, momentum, etc behind them, even in a bear market. Whereas with the coins you listed, while they all might be very promising now, any of them could turn to shitcoins overnight, so you have to stay on top of what is happening with them, closely monitor the news, etc. I don't think it's wise to just blindly HOD'L these types of coins. A good case in point is KIN, which I myself admittedly bought near the height of the last bull market, and it's almost worthless now, having fallen over 99%! They got in some kind of legal hassle with the SEC I believe. But at this point, it is not worth selling because you would get nothing out of it, so you may as well hold it now as a lottery ticket on the chance that something positive will happen to turn it around.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 22, 2019, 12:27:26 PM

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Why are we going to be a fool on the word HOLD? We are the ones who will decide if we will gonna hold our coins or not. We can sell and we can buy us anytime we want. Why are we going to hold if the market is in an uptrend? Of course, we choose to sell it and make a profit right? So it also depends on the market.

I agree with that phenomena because we hold only when we see the market and we look at the past of the bitcoin market. We know that the position of crypto is very better and is going to get more stronger that is why we are holding and waiting for a great bullrun.

I think almost everyone sells when the market is trending or going up and buys it when the market goes down.
and if they still hold it back when the market goes up it's like wasting an opportunity and in the end will regret when the market goes back down.

But here in actually the opposite is happening as right now you can see people are selling when the market is going down while they have to buy now if they will not sell and will buy then they will not see the panic market. Those who want to sell then they have to sell when the market reach to peak and have to take care to not dump the coins.

That is because we have different standards on things that we wanted to have in life, we are not going to stop until we meet the satisfaction we need to have the contentment in our life, missing the chances to sell might be a negative thing to you but for them, it is a way on making new chances, to loofor more opportunities for the tokens in their wallets.

Also, the decision of "when are you going to sell you tokens?" depends on the situation, when we need the money, then no matter what market we are in, we sell and doesn't care when we lose profits or not.

Those who hurry to sell at the bullrun actually miss the actual chance of profit as now the time of blockchain technology is going to start, there are countries to adopt it and a lot of people will adopt this coin. trillions of dollars will be invested in it from the investors so the bullrun in crypto will continue for a longer time, while those who sell in mid miss certain time of bullrun. Many of them often are unable to buy again as they try to wait for downfall and for that they wait for the whole life and not see the price at that value again.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 22, 2019, 12:27:26 PM

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Quote from: owengtam09 on November 21, 2019, 04:55:04 AM

Why are we going to be a fool on the word HOLD? We are the ones who will decide if we will gonna hold our coins or not. We can sell and we can buy us anytime we want. Why are we going to hold if the market is in an uptrend? Of course, we choose to sell it and make a profit right? So it also depends on the market.

I agree with that phenomena because we hold only when we see the market and we look at the past of the bitcoin market. We know that the position of crypto is very better and is going to get more stronger that is why we are holding and waiting for a great bullrun.

I think almost everyone sells when the market is trending or going up and buys it when the market goes down.
and if they still hold it back when the market goes up it's like wasting an opportunity and in the end will regret when the market goes back down.

But here in actually the opposite is happening as right now you can see people are selling when the market is going down while they have to buy now if they will not sell and will buy then they will not see the panic market. Those who want to sell then they have to sell when the market reach to peak and have to take care to not dump the coins.

That is because we have different standards on things that we wanted to have in life, we are not going to stop until we meet the satisfaction we need to have the contentment in our life, missing the chances to sell might be a negative thing to you but for them, it is a way on making new chances, to loofor more opportunities for the tokens in their wallets.

Also, the decision of "when are you going to sell you tokens?" depends on the situation, when we need the money, then no matter what market we are in, we sell and doesn't care when we lose profits or not.

Its true. I use to think my transaction fees and withdrawal fees are too much to waste but after trying my way to earn by joining how the traders earn seem worth. If I can dump while the price is still high is worth than just holding my coins in hopes that its price will eventually moon but that's just too much of a waiting as well. Chasing the money is worth doing than just waiting for the bullrun.

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Quote from: mobilestrike on November 22, 2019, 12:19:14 PM

Quote from: bitzizzix on November 21, 2019, 12:00:28 PM

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Quote from: owengtam09 on November 21, 2019, 04:55:04 AM

Why are we going to be a fool on the word HOLD? We are the ones who will decide if we will gonna hold our coins or not. We can sell and we can buy us anytime we want. Why are we going to hold if the market is in an uptrend? Of course, we choose to sell it and make a profit right? So it also depends on the market.

I agree with that phenomena because we hold only when we see the market and we look at the past of the bitcoin market. We know that the position of crypto is very better and is going to get more stronger that is why we are holding and waiting for a great bullrun.

I think almost everyone sells when the market is trending or going up and buys it when the market goes down.
and if they still hold it back when the market goes up it's like wasting an opportunity and in the end will regret when the market goes back down.

But here in actually the opposite is happening as right now you can see people are selling when the market is going down while they have to buy now if they will not sell and will buy then they will not see the panic market. Those who want to sell then they have to sell when the market reach to peak and have to take care to not dump the coins.

That is because we have different standards on things that we wanted to have in life, we are not going to stop until we meet the satisfaction we need to have the contentment in our life, missing the chances to sell might be a negative thing to you but for them, it is a way on making new chances, to loofor more opportunities for the tokens in their wallets.

Also, the decision of "when are you going to sell you tokens?" depends on the situation, when we need the money, then no matter what market we are in, we sell and doesn't care when we lose profits or not.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 21, 2019, 12:00:28 PM

Quote from: mobilestrike on November 21, 2019, 11:01:12 AM

Quote from: owengtam09 on November 21, 2019, 04:55:04 AM

Why are we going to be a fool on the word HOLD? We are the ones who will decide if we will gonna hold our coins or not. We can sell and we can buy us anytime we want. Why are we going to hold if the market is in an uptrend? Of course, we choose to sell it and make a profit right? So it also depends on the market.

I agree with that phenomena because we hold only when we see the market and we look at the past of the bitcoin market. We know that the position of crypto is very better and is going to get more stronger that is why we are holding and waiting for a great bullrun.

I think almost everyone sells when the market is trending or going up and buys it when the market goes down.
and if they still hold it back when the market goes up it's like wasting an opportunity and in the end will regret when the market goes back down.

But here in actually the opposite is happening as right now you can see people are selling when the market is going down while they have to buy now if they will not sell and will buy then they will not see the panic market. Those who want to sell then they have to sell when the market reach to peak and have to take care to not dump the coins.

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Quote from: yangongear on November 21, 2019, 10:55:26 AM

Quote from: stadus on November 21, 2019, 05:48:19 AM

he didn't realize that because he is into a big goal to make a lot of money, its his decision to hold and as long as he believes the project he invested with are not scam, then the hope is their that it will recover as the market recovers.

on the list, only one coin I am familiar with that was turn into scam, and that was centra.

Quote from: yangongear on November 21, 2019, 05:15:31 AM

And you need to set a goal, sell it when have profit. I think you have had a crazy profit because you bought them from 2015. But in the hype of 2017, you didn't take profit, maybe because you are too greedy.

Maybe the goal was too high, he didn't sell in the last bull run which most of the coins have rise up x10 or more, so he has to pay the price now, but we cannot judge since he is still holding it and that means he doesn't loss anything yet.

Yes, most of us experience that feeling, which is hope, but after a difficult time of the market, we realize that money is the most important thing, and sometimes cutting losses is what must do.
As for Centra, there are a lot of articles about their CEO getting arrested, so I think he hasn't been following the market for a long time.

I also think that holding is the best thing for all investors if we will not hold with patience for a long time so it will minimize our profit to get the demanded profit we will have to hold. Those who lose their money for selling are those who panic at the wrong time. Holding and not to panic will help you avoid loose. Holding helps avoid losses and helps us to abstain from panic selling.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 20, 2019, 04:46:20 AM

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Now, when the bull run comes, I still couldn't sell right away as I was getting greedy thinking I could earn more when I still hold.
of course, who would not HODL when all your friends in the group chat are also doing the same, even if the price rise high already, they are still saying HODL, and I really do it, and just sell a small portion of my investment to reward myself temporarily was I was into a big goal with my remaining investment.
-snip-

This is the problem for everyone even though they have been trading for a long time. Namely greedy nature to get a higher profit. Even though the Bull run has already taken place and has already benefited, but still want a higher price. Not only you who feel that way, I also experienced it and got a big loss. Hodl and continue hodl after the bearish market, until the asset value is reduced very much.

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Quote from: huu78 on November 21, 2019, 04:53:15 PM

Not good hold continuously whereas market like this. We know that the market day today is getting worse.
It cannot be in the undeniable again losses gained must be much if it remains in the hold and will be hard to price back to Ath first. If I sell before getting crushed.

It's getting worse but it will surely come back again.
Patience is a must and you will not panic if you witnessed this kind of movement in the past.

just today, btc dropped again, the trend is going down since we hit over $10K from a big pump, and with that altcoins are also bleeding.
For me, there is nothing to worry on altcoins bleeding as some of them are almost worthless, so better relax and think that it will recover soon.

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Not good hold continuously whereas market like this. We know that the market day today is getting worse.
It cannot be in the undeniable again losses gained must be much if it remains in the hold and will be hard to price back to Ath first. If I sell before getting crushed.

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Quote from: Viscore on November 20, 2019, 04:46:20 AM

I like to share my story being a crypto enthusiast, a trader and an investor at the same time.

I started in this forum in year 2015 when altcoins are still a good investment and Binance is still not the most popular exchange in the market.
I trade with Poloniex most of the time, sometimes I trade with Bittrex but then I realize that I am not so profitable with trading since I cannot focus on it due to the reason that i have a day job to prioritize.

Therefore, I started to invest for long term and I was entice by how the market moves and I was so optimistic that long term could really change my life.
So to make the story short, I invested with different altcoins and have help it until now.

Now, when the bull run comes, I still couldn't sell right away as I was getting greedy thinking I could earn more when I still hold.
of course, who would not HODL when all your friends in the group chat are also doing the same, even if the price rise high already, they are still saying HODL, and I really do it, and just sell a small portion of my investment to reward myself temporarily was I was into a big goal with my remaining investment.

And then, the correction comes started in year 2018, and I still didn't panic, continue to hold and even accumulate a bit when I see price has really dump a lot, just imagine ETH drop 10 times, so its really cheap and really tempting for any investors. So here I am now, I am still holding at a big loss but at the same time I am still hopeful one day my dreams will come into reality.

So top 10 of my portfolio consist of the following based on my blockfolio.

1) Atlant
2) Edgeless
3) Centra
4) Humaniq
5) Matchpool
6) Lunyr
7) KIN
8.) FUEL
9) SONM
10)NPXS

Please tell me if I should still expect I will be profitable or just give up now already.

Bitcoin and maybe one or two other coins might be worthy of hold for long term but on a large scale, I would say that the word "hold" has the biggest exaggeration and mis understood in cryptocurrency. In my understanding, hold actually means waiting long enough for a good exit point that guarantees your profit irrespective how small. It doesn't necessarily mean you should hold a coin for eternity. Even most developers have a sale plan in 6months to 18 months.

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Quote from: bigcash2011 on November 21, 2019, 01:40:20 PM

I know this feeling and things get worse every time market dumps, i know this causes massive stress rather anxiety and i have seen many people feeling depressed or hopeless but if we see overall crypto market historically it has ultimately given hodlers explosive growth and profits. As far as your portfolio is concerned im also holding Atlant and Npxs, i think both are good project especially big things are coming up for atlant so personally im very optimistic about massive demand and growth for Atl tokens.

In years here I get trough many ups and downs, people make drama in any case. When it's rising people call the moon,
when it's dropping people call the zero. It's stressful in the beginning for newbies and probably some people never adopt
on fluctuations in crypto-market.
I'm optimistic too. We need to be! Once we decided to join crypto-movement we should be ready to be strong even in
hard times! And hard times last for more then a year, only the strongest will survive.

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I know this feeling and things get worse every time market dumps, i know this causes massive stress rather anxiety and i have seen many people feeling depressed or hopeless but if we see overall crypto market historically it has ultimately given hodlers explosive growth and profits. As far as your portfolio is concerned im also holding Atlant and Npxs, i think both are good project especially big things are coming up for atlant so personally im very optimistic about massive demand and growth for Atl tokens.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on November 21, 2019, 01:24:53 PM

Quote from: ragavancoin on November 21, 2019, 12:30:32 PM

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Hold only if market is very stronger then you can make profit.

^ Definitely right, I didn't hold altcoins most of them I will sell when I saw my profit was there. I dont need to wait a long time just hoping more profit to come. But that is opposite to Bitcoin, that is a top of my priority and I can hold long term as much I dont need to cash out.
Don't hold altcoins I suggest, especially if they are not on top20 altcoins in Coins Market Cap. If you are holding these, just like you are risking your assets or just placing a bet in gambling.

while most of the users are doing it, some are earning from altcoins. you may find it not profitable to hold some, it takes courage to actually take time to read the altcoins potential and when an ETH-like project arrives some may thing its not possible but here we are again spreading fud to some of them like how we did to ETH back 2015. it just eat about $500 worth of investment and you might have your luck in the next bullrun. but then of course don't hold it when the bears are up again to rule the market.

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Quote from: ragavancoin on November 21, 2019, 12:30:32 PM

~snip~
Hold only if market is very stronger then you can make profit.

^ Definitely right, I didn't hold altcoins most of them I will sell when I saw my profit was there. I dont need to wait a long time just hoping more profit to come. But that is opposite to Bitcoin, that is a top of my priority and I can hold long term as much I dont need to cash out.
Don't hold altcoins I suggest, especially if they are not on top20 altcoins in Coins Market Cap. If you are holding these, just like you are risking your assets or just placing a bet in gambling.

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Quote from: Rodeo02 on November 20, 2019, 04:58:14 AM

Holding it even we are in the bull market is a big mistake , there are many people has been experience this lost, becuase they believe that when holding it will increase its value sooner . if you are in profit already take the profit and leave dont wait for dump will happen, its better to have sure earnings than gambling it for just hoping that it will increase more .

Set a selling price of your coin and when that price is reached dont hesitate in selling. Greed for more profit always end up in huge loss.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on November 21, 2019, 12:00:28 PM

Quote from: mobilestrike on November 21, 2019, 11:01:12 AM

Quote from: owengtam09 on November 21, 2019, 04:55:04 AM

Why are we going to be a fool on the word HOLD? We are the ones who will decide if we will gonna hold our coins or not. We can sell and we can buy us anytime we want. Why are we going to hold if the market is in an uptrend? Of course, we choose to sell it and make a profit right? So it also depends on the market.

I agree with that phenomena because we hold only when we see the market and we look at the past of the bitcoin market. We know that the position of crypto is very better and is going to get more stronger that is why we are holding and waiting for a great bullrun.

I think almost everyone sells when the market is trending or going up and buys it when the market goes down.
and if they still hold it back when the market goes up it's like wasting an opportunity and in the end will regret when the market goes back down.

Most of the folks in this industry do the same thing simply because that is fundamentals of trading which is sell high and buy low. Hold only comes when the market has been long bear trend. If bull market comes hold it is better option to make a transaction.

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Investing in many places is a very wise choice. You must be a good investor who has been following cryptocurrencies for a long time. but in my opinion you should not keep them for too long but invest in many better projects. wish you success. Grin

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The mistake here is because you keep too much without investing in more potential places. You can sell the money right before it's too late. There are many better things to learn.

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There is really nothing to lose at this point by hodling. Most of these cryptos you mentioned are already as low as they can possibly go, unless of course the project dies/fails which is unlikely.

Hodl, the auction rally will definitely happen. The market cannot bleed forever, just Hodl but when price rallies, take profits!

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