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Quote from: dannywhite on August 07, 2018, 02:58:25 AM

Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 01:48:57 PM

I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

And the reason for this is fairly simple. We're just lazy. We're having such comfortable lifestyles, many things are done for us, technologies protect people from making an attempt on doing ANYTHING that involves DOING. Nothing is actually forcing us to move our asses from our comfort zone. People keep wanting a lot of beautiful things, they want to gain some skills, they want the change but there is only one "doer" in a group of 1000 people. If you want to do something, you have to fight for it and never give up. But when most of them realize that this involves getting burned, being distracted, maybe humiliated, they find excuses to shield themselves and the band of dull and depressed creatures stays the same.

Yep, 'lazy' is more appropriate here than 'brainwashed,' I believe.

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Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 01:48:57 PM

I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

And the reason for this is fairly simple. We're just lazy. We're having such comfortable lifestyles, many things are done for us, technologies protect people from making an attempt on doing ANYTHING that involves DOING. Nothing is actually forcing us to move our asses from our comfort zone. People keep wanting a lot of beautiful things, they want to gain some skills, they want the change but there is only one "doer" in a group of 1000 people. If you want to do something, you have to fight for it and never give up. But when most of them realize that this involves getting burned, being distracted, maybe humiliated, they find excuses to shield themselves and the band of dull and depressed creatures stays the same.

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Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 01:48:57 PM

I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

I guess that depends on your definition of brainwashing. Wikipedia says it's "the concept that the human mind can be altered or controlled by certain psychological techniques and manipulation." To some extent, I think everything we see or hear is altering our minds a little. This would apply to advertising too. We see so many ads every day. They can make us feel like we "need" things that we don't actually need. The fashion industry, for example, has done a pretty good job of making many people think that they need a new wardrobe every season. We're still free to do whatever we want, but we get into habits that are highly influence by the media.

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This post reminds me of Neil Postman's book, Amusing Ourselves to Death. In it, he argues that television replaced typography (books, essays, newspapers) as the primary and dominant form of discourse and knowledge. But, television is a medium which restricts its content to 30-second blips sandwiched between other disconnected 'now... this' 30 second blips such that all serious topics collapse into a medium optimized for sheer entertainment. Everything from news to education to religion to politics becomes formatted for TV programming, not the other way around. As a result, we turn into brainwashed, entertained zombies a la the OP's aesthetic of fast cars, lots of sex, lots of money. Why wouldn't you -- that's the paradigm of an entertainment-based life.

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Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 01:48:57 PM

I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

Your final sentence said it all: Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.
That means, people haven't changed in centuries! So, it isn't brainwashing. I'd say it's merely a human nature. I hate to generalize, so I believe it doesn't apply to ALL people, but certain part of humankind are goofy. Cool

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Yes we are brainwashed because the word brainwash is to affect one's mind by using extreme mental pressure or any other mind-affecting process.

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Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 01:48:57 PM

And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

Absolutely right. All to some extent brainwashed. From childhood we are brainwashed by society, parents, mass media, our idols and the school. We are "sheeps" and we are given the minimum conditions to live to produce "wool".

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Yes i think a lot of people is brainwashed ,because they dont want to know the true facts i think a lot of people only looking for self intersest dont look it at worldwide scale and lot of them get lost in daily job and obligations they dont read to find the truth about world they live in ,because there is a lot of shit going on behind close doors and a lot of them is not aware of that

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Quote from: Beta-coiner1 on April 06, 2017, 01:48:57 PM

I look around and see people no longer have goals.
We are perfect consumers. And I can't help thinking that over time, we have been "gently" pushed in this direction.
No more goals, no ideas, ideology, morals or principles. Just having the latest iWhatever, fast car and sleep with plenty of women. Like a new special breed of zombies.
In the past people fought and gave their life for freedom. And now I think we are less free then before. It's just that we are persuaded otherwise. Like in ancient Rome - bread and circus.

yes we are. I think we are. The way we see things depends on who we believe and opinion of others. we tend to understand something with the aid of someone or something not just by the way we see it. I giess we are all brainwashed without even noticing it

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Brainwashing has nothing to do with goals, it is the process of making people follow ideologies different from their own.

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Quote from: fordharrison on June 17, 2018, 02:21:53 PM

Absolutely. But you can change the level of washing. As soon as you realise it, its less

Have the GMOs in your diet modified the bacteria in your gut yet, are you RoundUp Ready^(tm) goy?

"... the court conceded that given the way patent laws are written, even using a small amount of a patented material without authorization could constitute patent infringement. ..." -- https://www.biofortified.org/2015/12/lawsuits-for-inadvertent-contamination/

Point being here you're fucking owned and you don't have a choice in the matter. If your wife believes all the lies and she's making you a total cuckold and she has decision making power with powerful calls to her authorities, then it doesn't matter what you think. Your individual rejection of any brainwashing is a drop in the bucket and you'll be punished for denying group consensus of appeal to some authority.

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Absolutely. But you can change the level of washing. As soon as you realise it, its less

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I can't help but wonder if Agent Orange (military terminology) a.k.a. Monsanto (now Bayer) RoundUp has any effects that work in tandom with behavioral and cognitive adjustment techniques. Since all goyim (translates to livestock more specifically cows) food now tests positive for this chemical weapon I can't help but wonder if it also targets the mind?

The BBQ sauce is not kosher! -- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-beer/german-beer-purity-in-question-after-environment-group-finds-weed-killer-traces-idUSKCN0VY222

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You may need to get some Chipolata Away because the military industrial complex leads to a bloody asshole. -- http://drbogner.com/glyphosate-autism-2/

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Brainwashing doesn't take any sci-fi gadgetry or Manchurian Candidate hypnotism bullshit. There are all sorts of tried-and-true techniques that anyone can use to bypass the thinking part of your brain and flip a switch deep inside that says "OBEY."

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Quote from: Vod on June 10, 2018, 11:08:39 PM

Remember - brainwashing is accepting facts due to repetition.

Anyone who is told over and over again, week after week, the same bullshit about the same imaginary god, is by definition brainwashed.

Could you repeat that?

Seriously, most of the successful methods of brainwashing is somewhat more complex than that. In hard-core programs drugs and trauma are used. For general public manipulation (indoctrination, advertising, etc) they seem to rely on an understanding of (what I call) socio-biology. Understanding the various 'flavors' of individual psychology and how to appeal to each. Understanding how human group dynamics evolved and how they function today. Much of it revolves around the fear of alienation which, for most of human history, would be fatal for an individual. A good example of this is how and why the 'conspiracy theory' label program worked so well.

If I've not recommended it on this thread already, one of the best vids on Edward Bernays that I've seen is this Adam Curtis piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04

Quote from: Vod on June 10, 2018, 11:08:39 PM

Atheists are brainwashed too - about the multiplication tables and alphabet.

I never was able to memorize my multiplication tables (though I strenuously avoided trying very hard and eventually got most of them except weird ones like 7x8.)

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Remember - brainwashing is accepting facts due to repetition.

Anyone who is told over and over again, week after week, the same bullshit about the same imaginary god, is by definition brainwashed.

Atheists are brainwashed too - about the multiplication tables and alphabet.

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Here's an answer for you, the question of "are we being brainwashed" is a PC way of saying "are we being lied to [by authority]?".

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Quote from: notbatman on June 06, 2018, 10:54:30 PM

Quote from: 0ur0b0r0us on June 06, 2018, 05:05:17 PM

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Quote from: 0ur0b0r0us on June 05, 2018, 04:24:44 PM

Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up.

Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits?

That my friend, is the million dollar question. Who and why? The problem here is that it’s all theories. Who? Could be the wealthy, government, secret societies, aliens etc. Why? Power, greed, control, harnessing our fears as some form of energy etc. All these are just theories and not actual facts. So it’s difficult to find any hard evidence. But I do know that the brainwashing is there. Even with things like google and youtube controlling what content you watch or read, subliminal marketing, to name a few. The brainwashing is there. If you are interested, there are a lot of videos, books and articles that you should check out. It’s a very intriguing read/watch.

https://i.imgur.com/N4aJKlk.png

"Who owns the media?" -- Elon Musk

Oh man! George Carlin. This guy was definitely aware of his surroundings. A lot of what he says makes sense. It is very sad that the truth has to be masked by humor. Great post my friend! R.I.P Mr. Carlin.

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Quote from: 0ur0b0r0us on June 06, 2018, 05:05:17 PM

Quote from: notbatman on June 05, 2018, 05:57:28 PM

Quote from: 0ur0b0r0us on June 05, 2018, 04:24:44 PM

Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up.

Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits?

That my friend, is the million dollar question. Who and why? The problem here is that it’s all theories. Who? Could be the wealthy, government, secret societies, aliens etc. Why? Power, greed, control, harnessing our fears as some form of energy etc. All these are just theories and not actual facts. So it’s difficult to find any hard evidence. But I do know that the brainwashing is there. Even with things like google and youtube controlling what content you watch or read, subliminal marketing, to name a few. The brainwashing is there. If you are interested, there are a lot of videos, books and articles that you should check out. It’s a very intriguing read/watch.

"Who owns the media?" -- Elon Musk

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Quote from: notbatman on June 05, 2018, 05:57:28 PM

Quote from: 0ur0b0r0us on June 05, 2018, 04:24:44 PM

Yes, we are being brainwashed on a daily basis. Very slowly and very subtle. The subtly is definitely increasing though. It starts by brainwashing your subconscious. Your subconscious keeps a record of every bit of information that your brain picks up. It's genius actually, despite it being completely messed up.

Who could be behind this brainwashing, who benefits?

That my friend, is the million dollar question. Who and why? The problem here is that it’s all theories. Who? Could be the wealthy, government, secret societies, aliens etc. Why? Power, greed, control, harnessing our fears as some form of energy etc. All these are just theories and not actual facts. So it’s difficult to find any hard evidence. But I do know that the brainwashing is there. Even with things like google and youtube controlling what content you watch or read, subliminal marketing, to name a few. The brainwashing is there. If you are interested, there are a lot of videos, books and articles that you should check out. It’s a very intriguing read/watch.

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