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June 21, 2014, 10:27:32 AM
#47
our memory, feeling, decision make, instinct, etc are just some kind of software ? so if the mind is what the brain does, then software is what hardware does therefore software is like "mind" ... just a metaphor.

yeah.  and thetans are developed in a specific type of schizophrenia (mine)?  any pre-clears have teh same problem?

I would start any research about schizophrenia at "Brain split procedure" or Corpus callosum Malfunction ... this is a very interesting subject... since we like binary stuff hehehe

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June 21, 2014, 09:18:47 AM
#46
our memory, feeling, decision make, instinct, etc are just some kind of software ? so if the mind is what the brain does, then software is what hardware does therefore software is like "mind" ... just a metaphor.

yeah.  and thetans are developed in a specific type of schizophrenia (mine)?  any pre-clears have teh same problem?
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June 21, 2014, 07:37:11 AM
#45
our memory, feeling, decision make, instinct, etc are just some kind of software ? so if the mind is what the brain does, then software is what hardware does therefore software is like "mind" ... just a metaphor.
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June 21, 2014, 07:35:02 AM
#44
https://soundcloud.com/dankm/the-robots

Cool story line to it.



Are you a human?

I am Psykosonik - Self-Titled EP, with a little piece of brain for enemas
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June 21, 2014, 07:33:10 AM
#43
I'm sure about that I'm human.
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June 21, 2014, 05:01:42 AM
#42
How does transhumanism play into all of this? Just a few nanobots at first. Then a little bit of Synthetic Nucleic Acid and before you know it you're a robot!

Nanobots are too small to see, how do you know that you don't already have them? How would you know if you or the microbes in your gut have added SNA for producing nano-sized Radio Frequency and logic devices? Are we already IPv6 enabled via spread spectrum satellite RF?

pwned. 
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You cannot kill love
June 20, 2014, 03:13:11 PM
#41
I was honestly probably more at peace back then simply because I wasn't ravaged with brain damaging antipsychotics in 2012.

Though I have learned more since then and my understanding has increased by an order of multitudes exponentially.

I also am a bit down just because of where I am at this point - I have a long journey ahead and I can see that very few people believe.  I good bit do but in contrast to our population, there are not many, including my parents.  It saddens me because I know the fate those who choose to doubt receive.  We have all come a long way and I could only wish they would join and become who they were made to be.

Though I will soon reach a new point of conscious awareness that I have never reached, and that is the day someone makes an attempt on my life and propels me to levitate by the energy of their hatred.
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amarha
June 20, 2014, 03:02:32 PM
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Dank has a form of Bipolar disorder. I've observed his posts for quite some time, and a major symptom of Bipolar Disorder is thinking yourself "superhuman" or "otherwordly" aka Dank thinks he's far greater than anyone else because of supposed superhuman abilities. Common bipolar disorder thoughts.

I advice you to see a psychiatrist Dank, it will help greatly and keep your mind in clarity.

Don't all humans have positive and negative emoticons?  Hate and love?  Fear and peace?  Two poles?  Bi-polar?

Psychiatry is bullshit pseudoscience based off no more than opinion.  You must have robotitus.

There's a medicine for that, look into psychedelic healing.

hey dank can u tell me what is this
b'cause i am not able to see it clearly

and why have u posted this
"You cannot kill love"
is there a reason behind it



I picked it for reasons unknown at the time.  But upon my journeys I found it's meaning, it represent oroborus.  Humans are stuck in a cycle of self destruction, our planet constantly consumes itself, the picture is symbolic of our destruction of self.

You cannot kill love was added back in 2012, it meant the power of love will prevail.  Nature always wins over man made creations.  I have since realized much more from this statement.  I am a being of love.  My soul is love and it is my consciousness.  It is applicable to myself, you cannot kill love, you cannot kill me, you cannot kill god, no matter how hard you tried.

Synchronicity is cool.

How do you think 2012 Dank would feel about this post Dank Bank era 2014 Dank?
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You cannot kill love
June 20, 2014, 02:16:50 PM
#39
You are employing fallacious reasoning Dank.

Your consciousness exists with or without a brain, non existence does not exist.
While, certainly, by it's very nature, 'non-existence' does not 'exist' because it is merely a word we use to describe the absence of existence, that is not to say that we do not 'cease to exist'. All evidence suggests that we cease to exist and it is extremely wishful thinking, along with the employment of intellectual dishonesty, that has us believing otherwise.

You assertion is baseless.

there is no possible way your consciousness can stop existing.  Energy can only be transferred, not destroyed.
Ah, yes, the ol', utterly fallacious, use of energy transference as attempt to 'prove' that, because we are based on electrochemical energy, the transformation of our physical form from 'alive' to 'dead', magically implies that our electrochemical energy will, erm, go somewhere, or do something, or become quantum, or something. In any event the idea that our 'mind' continues to exist after the brain has ceased to function is, again, wishful thinking by those who are conditioned to believe in dualism.

The point being, energy may well transfer to other forms as a result of particular interactions, but it doesn't follow that our minds are then capable of the same. Our mind is a filter of the inputs received by our senses and neurochemical action/reaction, if the brain is no longer providing the electrochemical energy to power that filter, do we then exist in the form of the dissipated heat energy that it gives off in its fading functioning? No. Otherwise we would exist in the heat energy it already generates. Energy is continually transferring all the while our brain is functioning, why should it magically make something else happen as it fades into the state of ceasing to function?

Duality is the very essence of our universe
That's pretty meaningless in the context of this discussion.

If duality did not exist, we would be a singular point of consciousness with absolutely no perception of time, space, or change. 
Then, surely, we wouldn't be we because we simply wouldn't be.

You know how you didn't exist before you came into existence as a complex organism? Yeah, there's no reason to believe that ceasing to exist is going to be any different.

But, you know what, we get to know that we will always have existed, at some point in space and time. That will never change, we, will always have existed, even if but for a fraction of a macrosecond in the truly enormous cosmological scale of things.

It is in being conditioned to believe in dualism, in something we call a 'spirit' or a 'soul', that we waste vast amount of time and energy not living but merely existing under the foolish impression that something better will be handed to us afterwards.

Intellectual honesty. It is a truly wonderful thing.

A fallacy is a false statement.  If you would look at the polarity of the words and the statement they create you would see that they are true.

There is absolutely no proof for non existence.  Science is a primitive way to measure our material plane.  Science does not quantify the infinite dimensions around us.  We may perceive a lack of something, but that is our perception, not the actual existence of said thing.

We live in an infinite universe, it is 100% certain that everything exists.  If you can think of it, it exists, for you are connecting to the reality where it does.  We are multidimensional beings and thoughts are other dimensions we connect to incompletely.

All matter resonates at a certain frequency, there are infinite frequencies we can tune our consciousness to.  Everything you possibly imagine exists everywhere.

Without duality we are left with singularity, singularity is what Buddhists refer to as nirvana, enlightenment, it is egodeath and I have seen, or become, it myself.  Without negativity, you can quite literally ascend to the highest dimension and perceive every frequency the universe has at once, creating a singular point of completely white light and infinite peace.

Negativity will always be codependent on the existence of positivity, for it is positivity, or consciousness that enables the ability to perceive nothingness.  There is no place where nothing exists.

To say there's no such thing as a spirit or soul is to say you are not conscious.  It is to say you feel no love, no positive emotions, no unity with anything, for that is the nature of the soul.

You have been conditioned to believe in negativity and that is the very source the word satan describes.  You believe in ego, material creations and all that comes with negativity, death, pain, doubt, hate, limits, etc.

You are not a body with a consciousness, you are a consciousness with a body.

If you can see that we always have existed, then you should be able to see that you always will exist.  What you perceive is up to your perception which will continue beyond death, for it always has.
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Stand on the shoulders of giants
June 20, 2014, 12:49:58 PM
#38
So let's set 2 AI to talk each other ... I am bet in clever bot
AI vs. AI. Two chatbots talking to each other: http://youtu.be/WnzlbyTZsQY
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June 20, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
#37
Nowadays, I feel that I'm a robot, with time is ultra running and I can't have the time to inhale anymore.
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June 20, 2014, 09:02:50 AM
#36
I'm not a robot, nice song too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_oMD6-6q5Y  Smiley



Besides that, indeed it's a tough philosophical question what differs a robot from a human, if anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

My best take on that topic is this:

Spirituality or consciousness is everything that wouldn't exist in a world that consists solely of machines and robots of maximized "rationality" and efficiency.

They'd have no purpose for art, music, dance, everything that makes life "lively" and worthwhile for us humans (with a soul).

In fact the robots and machines should come to the seemingly only rational ultimate conclusion: To immediately suspend everything they're doing and just freeze in order to stop raising entropy and contributing to the heat death of the universe.

But somehow there seems to be more to life, to existence, which is hard to grab and hard to explain.
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June 20, 2014, 09:02:23 AM
#35
You are employing fallacious reasoning Dank.

Your consciousness exists with or without a brain, non existence does not exist.
While, certainly, by it's very nature, 'non-existence' does not 'exist' because it is merely a word we use to describe the absence of existence, that is not to say that we do not 'cease to exist'. All evidence suggests that we cease to exist and it is extremely wishful thinking, along with the employment of intellectual dishonesty, that has us believing otherwise.

You assertion is baseless.

there is no possible way your consciousness can stop existing.  Energy can only be transferred, not destroyed.
Ah, yes, the ol', utterly fallacious, use of energy transference as attempt to 'prove' that, because we are based on electrochemical energy, the transformation of our physical form from 'alive' to 'dead', magically implies that our electrochemical energy will, erm, go somewhere, or do something, or become quantum, or something. In any event the idea that our 'mind' continues to exist after the brain has ceased to function is, again, wishful thinking by those who are conditioned to believe in dualism.

The point being, energy may well transfer to other forms as a result of particular interactions, but it doesn't follow that our minds are then capable of the same. Our mind is a filter of the inputs received by our senses and neurochemical action/reaction, if the brain is no longer providing the electrochemical energy to power that filter, do we then exist in the form of the dissipated heat energy that it gives off in its fading functioning? No. Otherwise we would exist in the heat energy it already generates. Energy is continually transferring all the while our brain is functioning, why should it magically make something else happen as it fades into the state of ceasing to function?

Duality is the very essence of our universe
That's pretty meaningless in the context of this discussion.

If duality did not exist, we would be a singular point of consciousness with absolutely no perception of time, space, or change. 
Then, surely, we wouldn't be we because we simply wouldn't be.

You know how you didn't exist before you came into existence as a complex organism? Yeah, there's no reason to believe that ceasing to exist is going to be any different.

But, you know what, we get to know that we will always have existed, at some point in space and time. That will never change, we, will always have existed, even if but for a fraction of a macrosecond in the truly enormous cosmological scale of things.

It is in being conditioned to believe in dualism, in something we call a 'spirit' or a 'soul', that we waste vast amount of time and energy not living but merely existing under the foolish impression that something better will be handed to us afterwards.

Intellectual honesty. It is a truly wonderful thing.

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You cannot kill love
June 20, 2014, 08:23:43 AM
#34
but that philosophical question is very important ... it's also about dualism
Ah Dualism, yes, because that's been proven, right? . . . .right? . . . or, maybe, just maybe . . . there are so many people indoctrinated into theist delusion that they can't actually consider that it's about as proven as the invisible pink unicorns that watch over us in 'the quantum', along with elephant wings and garage dragons.

The 'mind' cannot exist without the brain. We exist within the brain and, when the brain stops working, we stop existing.

Dualism, or the belief that the 'mind' and the brain are separate entities leading to the 'mind' possibly continuing after death, is wishful thinking, that's all. There isn't any objective evidence that has ever suggested otherwise.

There's a whole lotta playing pretend *real* hard with myth and magic believed to be true because, well, you were raised that way. A belief in dualism is no different to a belief in Zeus or Thor, or Ra, or any of the currently 'believed' gods, it's just a long-running game of pretend.

Then you must be a robot.  Your consciousness exists with or without a brain, non existence does not exist.  I have contemplated this long and hard since I was about 8 years old, there is no possible way your consciousness can stop existing.  Energy can only be transferred, not destroyed.

Duality is the very essence of our universe, we perceive dimensions of space which are created by positive and negative attributes.  We perceive feeling which are perceived as positive and negative emotions.  If duality did not exist, we would be a singular point of consciousness with absolutely no perception of time, space, or change.  We would be in the highest realm of heaven, complete nirvana.
b!z
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June 20, 2014, 02:11:13 AM
#33
i am a human being. who have brain and feelings Smiley

How do you know?
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June 20, 2014, 01:05:47 AM
#32
but that philosophical question is very important ... it's also about dualism
Ah Dualism, yes, because that's been proven, right? . . . .right? . . . or, maybe, just maybe . . . there are so many people indoctrinated into theist delusion that they can't actually consider that it's about as proven as the invisible pink unicorns that watch over us in 'the quantum', along with elephant wings and garage dragons.

The 'mind' cannot exist without the brain. We exist within the brain and, when the brain stops working, we stop existing.

Dualism, or the belief that the 'mind' and the brain are separate entities leading to the 'mind' possibly continuing after death, is wishful thinking, that's all. There isn't any objective evidence that has ever suggested otherwise.

There's a whole lotta playing pretend *real* hard with myth and magic believed to be true because, well, you were raised that way. A belief in dualism is no different to a belief in Zeus or Thor, or Ra, or any of the currently 'believed' gods, it's just a long-running game of pretend.



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June 19, 2014, 10:40:19 PM
#31
I am not.

thank you for asking though Smiley

Much appreciated.
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June 19, 2014, 09:05:01 PM
#30
i am a human being. who have brain and feelings Smiley
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Stand on the shoulders of giants
June 19, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
#29
but that philosophical question is very important ... it's also about dualism and determinism

in psychology I strongly recommend

Introduction to Psychology,
Professor Paul Bloom
2 Foundations: This Is Your Brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg01Q1BI4WM

The entire course here. opencourceware 
http://oyc.yale.edu/psychology/psyc-110
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June 19, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
#28


I guess I'm a human then.
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