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Quote from: zuzie on September 14, 2024, 09:03:18 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on September 14, 2024, 10:29:36 AM

And then the poor will complain why they can't change their life, they didn't realize their own activities that decrease their chance to change their life. Due to digitalization and most people are communicating through social medias, life is getting harder. Because it make people to are prone to comparing themselves with successful people, distract them from doing productive activity and "consume" useless informations.

It is natural and proven that poor people will have the assumptions as you mentioned above because poor people definitely want to change their lives to be more advanced and developed like other people who seem successful in their lives. However, it could be that the path or steps taken by poor people are wrong because they only think about the good impacts and are very difficult to achieve even though in the field most of the bad impacts they receive, such as one of which is frequent defeat and results in quite large financial losses.

We think everyone certainly wants to change their life for the better than before but if they choose to gamble in order to have luck that can change their fortune then the step is very inappropriate, because we all know that everyone who gambles of course just for fun and very little luck will always be on our side and win every bet we play and also me Agree with you, most people who bet will experience a lot of misfortune compared to the winnings they get, so if someone wants to change their life to be even more prosperous, then they have to do the work and not by gambling, and also they have to be able to control their gambling desires so as not to spend too much of their money on gambling.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on September 14, 2024, 10:29:36 AM

Quote from: zuzie on September 14, 2024, 09:55:43 AM

Yes, it is true that you said that gambling should be used as a place for entertainment and fun activities, but besides getting that, on the other hand, gamblers also expect the desire for luck there because it is not easy for a gambler who is really just looking for entertainment, in fact, many gamblers are willing to spend their time to get luck there and those are gamblers who are already addicted.
Although we have also seen some gamblers who use casinos for fun, but since the development of this modern era, we have found many people who play gambling as a place to find extra money.

And then the poor will complain why they can't change their life, they didn't realize their own activities that decrease their chance to change their life. Due to digitalization and most people are communicating through social medias, life is getting harder. Because it make people to are prone to comparing themselves with successful people, distract them from doing productive activity and "consume" useless informations.

It is natural and proven that poor people will have the assumptions as you mentioned above because poor people definitely want to change their lives to be more advanced and developed like other people who seem successful in their lives. However, it could be that the path or steps taken by poor people are wrong because they only think about the good impacts and are very difficult to achieve even though in the field most of the bad impacts they receive, such as one of which is frequent defeat and results in quite large financial losses.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 14, 2024, 08:11:20 AM

I have always been interested in developing as a player because I am not ready to stand still and make the same mistakes. Of course, at the very beginning of my gambling journey, I probably made all the mistakes I could, and now I understand what new players have to go through. Despite this, any player should learn to draw conclusions and train better on a small bankroll. It is also necessary to divide the games into those that are completely dependent on luck and those in which you can earn money with your professional game after long training, learning and your emotional stability. I would advise paying attention to poker and blackjack.

Of course, in talking about poker gambling, skills can be improved as the game requires skills to be able to play it very well to win, basically a game that requires skills, we must definitely improve our abilities, but if we look more broadly how we as players can develop further is to understand that we must have good money management, good self-management, regular emotions and also maintain expectations of victory so that they can be controlled so that our gambling can be said to be responsible gamblers, and yes you increase awareness of things that other people often ignore from gambling, because in my opinion managing yourself is a strength that needs to be improved besides just gambling.

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I'm not sure if developing is the right term, bue what we have done is to learn in the way, we get experience and decide what kind of games we enjoy more thab other. From my personal point of view is easier to win with the house games than to win from slots games. And if we talk about sports the only one I enjoy betting on is UFC because the fights are fast and we dont have to wait a lot of time to see the bet result.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 14, 2024, 02:47:47 PM

Quote from: danherbias07 on September 13, 2024, 08:33:47 AM

It's not a perfect solution but it's better than nothing and it's all up to us on how disciplined we can be at staying with our budgeted amount and then calling it a day if it loses.

I have it clear, if we play economically with the balance willing to lose there is no problem, now if the person does not have that discipline then he faces contracting impulses and economies that can make him lose more money, the fact of playing in a casino we must realize that what matters most is money, the simple fact of us not having discipline will make us lose everything, and that is not good , it is clear that in the Eorld if we have empty pockets the Opportunities go away , and in the casino it is a fact.

it ain't quite easy planning for a loss, that's why it is adviced to play with amount that won't hurt you emotionally this is to prevent impulsive actions.
Because intellect and wisdom reduces when clouded by emotions and it barely yields good results.
Discipline especially in respect to our emotion and amount we use decides how far and how successful a person would become.
To OP question
Well yeah , experience is an Asshole kind of teacher and only a fool wouldn't hearken to it.
But there are times we neglect rationality and try and rely on luck.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 13, 2024, 08:33:47 AM

It's not a perfect solution but it's better than nothing and it's all up to us on how disciplined we can be at staying with our budgeted amount and then calling it a day if it loses.

I have it clear, if we play economically with the balance willing to lose there is no problem, now if the person does not have that discipline then he faces contracting impulses and economies that can make him lose more money, the fact of playing in a casino we must realize that what matters most is money, the simple fact of us not having discipline will make us lose everything, and that is not good , it is clear that in the Eorld if we have empty pockets the Opportunities go away , and in the casino it is a fact.

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Quote from: DiMarxist on September 14, 2024, 11:00:43 AM

Definitely gambling experience developed and we learn new things daily in different encountered. There new skills, technics we see when playing gamble. But some of those things we learnt are not permanent because someone game me tactics some years back to play bet but those technics are not working again.
And another thing is that the more you gamble the more you have strong mind to gamble. Continues gambling gives strong mind and that is one of the thing I have learnt so far. But I don't believe in other people prediction to play game. I used mine and wait for my luck to roll.

As far as I'm concerned, looking for techniques and patterns in gambling is ultimately the same and useless, it's just a figment of the mind and believing it in order to get a win is not much like an illusion.

But it's true that the more you gamble the stronger the desire to gamble, especially when the orientation is multipliers and money-oriented wins, this will always lure us to continue gambling, I've experienced it to the point of having thoughts of why I have to gamble and gamble. lol

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 14, 2024, 07:56:46 AM

For sure learnings will came later on if they experience the worse. And it will be up to the person if they decide to stop or continue by using small amount then make sure that they are in total control of each actions they do.

Its important to learn then weight and choose what's best for us that's why lot came up on some thoughts that gambling is for entertainment that's why some people manage to be in control and avoid to waste a lot of money or go to addiction stage.

Though it leaves a trail of pain in players, but learning the hard way sticks morality to our memory. Most often, those who went through difficult times as gamblers, come out with better experience, and knowledge, which facilitates their remaining moments in gambling. As a matter of fact, they wouldn't dream of making similar mistakes that made them wander off the right path. For example; greed, and chasing losses.

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Quote from: Frankolala on September 14, 2024, 10:38:02 AM

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I am very happy on the area which i have developed as a gambler because I could remember when i started gambling, I gamble excessively which brought losses upon losses and I became addicted. It took some time for me to overcome addiction and that has thought me a big lesson in life.

I can control myself when gambling by using the amount of money that i can avoid to lose and also setting time limits for my gambling activities. This alone makes me feel happy and stay free from much losses. There is no how a gambler will develop his skill in gambling, his losses will still be higher than his wins.

You didn't only develop as a gambler but also as a person. You went overboard by placing irresponsible bets and gambling more than you should have, ending up addicted, but in the end, you managed to overcome your addiction and set boundaries. This means much more than earning a few games or matches; it means that you developed self-control through your misconduct, which may assist you later on in life.

Unfortunately, it's extremely easy to be fooled as a newbie gambler and fall into the trap of beginner's luck. The first few victories motivate you and make you thirsty for more, and ultimately, if you do not control it, it slowly consumes you, leading to addiction.

Of course when you think that you can make profit from gambling is when your addiction journey starts. This is because you will never be satisfied with your wins neither will you think of stopping the game even when you are in big loss. It is only when you have emptied your bankroll that you will stop gambling automatically.

Don't be carried away with profit making because you will not realize that you are bringing losses and addiction to yourself. New gamblers should realize this and change their reason of gambling if it is for profit because the casino is not father Christmas.

Gambling should not be considered as a source of financial income. When someone focuses more on money, he will slowly walk that way even if he is not addicted. Addiction is never built in a day. Those who regularly try to engage in gambling in pursuit of financial income are more likely. And the most important thing is to get out of this kind of situation to set gambler's gambling limit. When a gambler is addicted he is not able to realize whether he is addicted or not. But if he tries to set his boundaries and gamble, he can easily get warning about that. Without keeping money into gambling, the real excitement of betting is not found. So money should be kept that even if lost the gambler does not become desperate to recover the lost money.

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in my personal experience told in this topic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbollo-betting-advice-45-267-13-1-place-tipster-competition-1234109 , my ability over the years has improved up to a certain limit. The same is true in money management. Unfortunately I noticed that without "training" and therefore without constantly following a market (sport, league, player etc...), I reached just sufficient level that doesn't justify anymore any effort Sad

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I personally don't really focus on having a good development in gambling, because I only bet based on fun. As such, I don't strive to improve or get better with good results in winnings as well. Because at least, if we strive to develop in gambling for the better, then maybe it also has a different basis when starting gambling whether it is to be consistent with winning or really want a good income in gambling. With such reasons, then I personally don't want to impose myself to have a good development in gambling, because it seems like it would be stressful for me to do.

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Quote from: DiMarxist on September 14, 2024, 11:00:43 AM

Definitely gambling experience developed and we learn new things daily in different encountered. There new skills, technics we see when playing gamble. But some of those things we learnt are not permanent because someone game me tactics some years back to play bet but those technics are not working again.
And another thing is that the more you gamble the more you have strong mind to gamble. Continues gambling gives strong mind and that is one of the thing I have learnt so far. But I don't believe in other people prediction to play game. I used mine and wait for my luck to roll.

definitely so, the more we play, the better we understand the rules of the game, this will give us an advantage over other players. Take poker for example, until I remembered all the combinations and rules it was very difficult to play, but after a while I feel confident in the game and do not worry once again that I do not fully understand what combination I have.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on September 14, 2024, 08:11:20 AM

I have always been interested in developing as a player because I am not ready to stand still and make the same mistakes. Of course, at the very beginning of my gambling journey, I probably made all the mistakes I could, and now I understand what new players have to go through. Despite this, any player should learn to draw conclusions and train better on a small bankroll. It is also necessary to divide the games into those that are completely dependent on luck and those in which you can earn money with your professional game after long training, learning and your emotional stability. I would advise paying attention to poker and blackjack.

Nobody who started gambling new that will not make a mistake, I believe that gambling has to do with good not bad, so I believe that gambling if we know gambling very well, to learn it doesn't take much time, as you said concerning casino game, I believe that if you concentrate very well in both poker game or any gambling websites that you wants to gamble with, highest it will take you to understand their protocols will not be that much, I agree with you that gambling is all about luck, to earn through staking in gambling is something that xome to pass through luck not experience.

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Quote from: DiMarxist on September 14, 2024, 11:00:43 AM

Definitely gambling experience developed and we learn new things daily in different encountered. There new skills, technics we see when playing gamble. But some of those things we learnt are not permanent because someone game me tactics some years back to play bet but those technics are not working again.
And another thing is that the more you gamble the more you have strong mind to gamble. Continues gambling gives strong mind and that is one of the thing I have learnt so far. But I don't believe in other people prediction to play game. I used mine and wait for my luck to roll.

We should understand that we have developed as a player when we realize that there are no techniques or strategies that one can use in gambling to maximize their wins, there can be betting patterns that can either make you lose more or lose less based on how you are managing your bankroll. When you start gambling initially, you don't understand these things, you might look for strategies that you can use to win or recover your money, and you might even use some such as martingale to recover your losses, but after some time, you start understanding that these things are nothing else but tools to make you lose more.

I was also like that when I first started gambling. I used to look for strategies that I could use to recover my losses, I even used martingale strategy a lot in the initial days and it made me lose more money instead of helping me recover my losses. As time went by, I started realizing that it's not worth it and if I want to gamble, I will need to understand that gambling is all about luck and nothing can make you win more if you are unlucky.

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Definitely gambling experience developed and we learn new things daily in different encountered. There new skills, technics we see when playing gamble. But some of those things we learnt are not permanent because someone game me tactics some years back to play bet but those technics are not working again.
And another thing is that the more you gamble the more you have strong mind to gamble. Continues gambling gives strong mind and that is one of the thing I have learnt so far. But I don't believe in other people prediction to play game. I used mine and wait for my luck to roll.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on September 14, 2024, 04:31:49 AM

Quote from: Frankolala on September 14, 2024, 03:08:17 AM

I am very happy on the area which i have developed as a gambler because I could remember when i started gambling, I gamble excessively which brought losses upon losses and I became addicted. It took some time for me to overcome addiction and that has thought me a big lesson in life.

I can control myself when gambling by using the amount of money that i can avoid to lose and also setting time limits for my gambling activities. This alone makes me feel happy and stay free from much losses. There is no how a gambler will develop his skill in gambling, his losses will still be higher than his wins.

You didn't only develop as a gambler but also as a person. You went overboard by placing irresponsible bets and gambling more than you should have, ending up addicted, but in the end, you managed to overcome your addiction and set boundaries. This means much more than earning a few games or matches; it means that you developed self-control through your misconduct, which may assist you later on in life.

Unfortunately, it's extremely easy to be fooled as a newbie gambler and fall into the trap of beginner's luck. The first few victories motivate you and make you thirsty for more, and ultimately, if you do not control it, it slowly consumes you, leading to addiction.

Of course when you think that you can make profit from gambling is when your addiction journey starts. This is because you will never be satisfied with your wins neither will you think of stopping the game even when you are in big loss. It is only when you have emptied your bankroll that you will stop gambling automatically.

Don't be carried away with profit making because you will not realize that you are bringing losses and addiction to yourself. New gamblers should realize this and change their reason of gambling if it is for profit because the casino is not father Christmas.

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Quote from: zuzie on September 14, 2024, 09:55:43 AM

Yes, it is true that you said that gambling should be used as a place for entertainment and fun activities, but besides getting that, on the other hand, gamblers also expect the desire for luck there because it is not easy for a gambler who is really just looking for entertainment, in fact, many gamblers are willing to spend their time to get luck there and those are gamblers who are already addicted.
Although we have also seen some gamblers who use casinos for fun, but since the development of this modern era, we have found many people who play gambling as a place to find extra money.

And then the poor will complain why they can't change their life, they didn't realize their own activities that decrease their chance to change their life. Due to digitalization and most people are communicating through social medias, life is getting harder. Because it make people to are prone to comparing themselves with successful people, distract them from doing productive activity and "consume" useless informations.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on September 14, 2024, 08:08:26 AM

Gambling is really that something that just for the sake of fun and not something that would really be good for long term runs or simply making up some wish about being profitable with it.

Yes, it is true that you said that gambling should be used as a place for entertainment and fun activities, but besides getting that, on the other hand, gamblers also expect the desire for luck there because it is not easy for a gambler who is really just looking for entertainment, in fact, many gamblers are willing to spend their time to get luck there and those are gamblers who are already addicted.
Although we have also seen some gamblers who use casinos for fun, but since the development of this modern era, we have found many people who play gambling as a place to find extra money.

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Quote from: Outhue on September 14, 2024, 07:42:24 AM

I started gambling only when I felt ready, all the days of my life living under my father's roof I have always been warned by him to never go near gambling, in my family few people turned into gambling addict and it ruined their lives, till now they are not balanced yet.

Now that my father is no more I've promised myself to never allow such thing to happen to me, I started gambling with the mind that I will never get addicted, I believe this is why till now I've not fallen victim to any addiction, i prefer to quit gambling either I win or not, once I reach my limit I am taking my leave.

I think there is nothing to get improve about in the gambling space, the preparation and development won't stop you from losing money anyway, strategy and technics? These will only get you fooled into thinking that you can handle it all.

Can i ask what concrete measures you took not to get addicted? Because that's not something people can really choose. You can "choose" what measures to take, if you know how your addiction would get triggered, but we are rarely consciously aware of that process in our minds. Behavioral addiction like gambling addiction is harder for us to realize or understand as it's happening in brain chemistry.

When it comes to OP:s question, i feel like have developed. Not in a way that i would win more, but i am gambling with budgeted smaller amounts, so i am not losing as much.

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Quote from: Julien_Olynpic on July 16, 2024, 10:03:07 PM

I want to ask everyone interested in the topic of betting a question: are you developing as a betting player? Now I don't mean casino games that are completely dependent on luck. I write about sports and other bets in which you can make a profit in the long term, although it is very difficult and the percentage of such players is very small.
I also ask that those who “play for fun” not take part in the discussion. Such people, in my opinion, have little valuable to say on this topic.
If you take your entire gaming history, would you say that you have learned anything during this time?
In other words, are you progressing as a player? Is your strategy improving? Is the quality of risk management and money management improving? Have you learned to control your emotions? Are your winning statistics stable? Do losses keep you out of the game? Have you learned to recover from losses? Are you getting better at predicting the results of sports matches?

As a gambler, I don't think anything has changed in me, because I really only gamble to have fun, and if I win knowing that there is a profit, I will immediately check because no matter what, I will have something to take home from the winning price because I was lucky.

And if I lose, it's okay because what I gambled on doesn't matter if I lose, and before I run out of money, if I'm not lucky, it's not a big deal to me.

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