Are you willing to go to self-inclusion?

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Quote from: Nwada001 on August 28, 2024, 05:44:53 PM

No doubt that you can't manage the urge, but it will be difficult for you to do that when you have friends that gamble around you every time close to you, which is also almost the same thing as having your favourite casino that has the same game options that you like playing as your next-door neighbour.

In most cases, self-exclusion directly from the casino can also be off help, which means even if you are to enter the casino for whatever reason, you can't place a bet there by mistake because of the ban on your head.

Well, any gambler that wants to self exclude their self from gambling will use any strategy that works for them and the strategy that is going to be used will depend on the situation of the gambler. If a casino shop is close to their door step, you can asked the staff not to allow you into the casino more than 1 a day. Then if your friends are fully into gambling, you can restrict yourself from coming too close with them so that they will not influence you.

You can do possible ways or methods on which you could make yourself self excluded if you wanted to but actually you could really be able to do things without needing up these steps because it would really be just that enough for you to make out such action on the time or moment that you will be deciding on completely stopping.It is really just that a matter of choice and decisions on which we know that this is something
that will really be different to each other on which we know that each person will really be having their own approach on things and this is why on the time that they will really be having that kind of assumption that they could make easy money with gambling then they would really be continuing and not really be that serious with that exclusion and would really be continuing on what they are doing.

First is being willing and decisive to take those steps and finally take the steps to stop, if you are not yet willing to give it up, no matter any step you take, it's not going to work, that's why I said that the person have to be read and take the decision not go back to it no matter any circumstances.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on August 28, 2024, 05:44:53 PM

No doubt that you can't manage the urge, but it will be difficult for you to do that when you have friends that gamble around you every time close to you, which is also almost the same thing as having your favourite casino that has the same game options that you like playing as your next-door neighbour.

In most cases, self-exclusion directly from the casino can also be off help, which means even if you are to enter the casino for whatever reason, you can't place a bet there by mistake because of the ban on your head.

Well, any gambler that wants to self exclude their self from gambling will use any strategy that works for them and the strategy that is going to be used will depend on the situation of the gambler. If a casino shop is close to their door step, you can asked the staff not to allow you into the casino more than 1 a day. Then if your friends are fully into gambling, you can restrict yourself from coming too close with them so that they will not influence you.

You can do possible ways or methods on which you could make yourself self excluded if you wanted to but actually you could really be able to do things without needing up these steps because it would really be just that enough for you to make out such action on the time or moment that you will be deciding on completely stopping.It is really just that a matter of choice and decisions on which we know that this is something
that will really be different to each other on which we know that each person will really be having their own approach on things and this is why on the time that they will really be having that kind of assumption that they could make easy money with gambling then they would really be continuing and not really be that serious with that exclusion and would really be continuing on what they are doing.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on August 28, 2024, 05:44:53 PM

No doubt that you can't manage the urge, but it will be difficult for you to do that when you have friends that gamble around you every time close to you, which is also almost the same thing as having your favourite casino that has the same game options that you like playing as your next-door neighbour.

In most cases, self-exclusion directly from the casino can also be off help, which means even if you are to enter the casino for whatever reason, you can't place a bet there by mistake because of the ban on your head.

Well, any gambler that wants to self exclude their self from gambling will use any strategy that works for them and the strategy that is going to be used will depend on the situation of the gambler. If a casino shop is close to their door step, you can asked the staff not to allow you into the casino more than 1 a day. Then if your friends are fully into gambling, you can restrict yourself from coming too close with them so that they will not influence you.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

If self inclusion like you called it is what will work for a person not to be a gambling addict then let him do it, it's better to exclude yourself from something that you think is harmful to you. But you didn't have to exclude yourself from gambling inorder not to become addicted to it, if you're able to practice responsible gambling and be disciplined to stick to it then you can gamble and not be addicted. To me responsible gambling basically means to gamble with the amount that you can afford to loose and don't chase loses, to achieve this you need to have a budget for your gambling. If you don't see gambling as a get rich quick scheme then I don't think that you will worry much about hitting the jackpot because it might never happen.

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I find it hard to believe that self-inclusion really works, as there are not former addicted people, and I dont believe that addiction can be treated by pausing it. Addiction can be treated by finding another hobby or something that will take all the time, or with doctors help. If a person decides to use self-inclusion method, it means he is already in big troubles with gambling, and self-inclusion is just postponing real treatment.

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Quote from: aoluain on August 27, 2024, 06:53:21 AM

Is that not self-Exclusion?

I think that's the word, it's self exclusion. Form what op had said, I don't think its logical though it s his choice to exclude himself from theses casino. But then you can just avoid going there. You have to learn it. Excluding yourself from the casino close to your house, what happens when you go somewhere else where there's also a casino? Will you then always go and exclude yourself? The best way to learn this is to have self control over your gambling activities. Learn how to stop after a big win.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

I like the sound of this and definitely self inclusion is a best remedy to minimize your chances of gambling and thus will be of great importance if everyone adopts this, I know it's hard but it's a good idea .

He definitely is discipline and responsible in his gambling acts and with that he tend not to go beyond his limits so as not to end up in regrets afterwards, so asking the casino to prevent him from overstepping is boundaries it's a good policy for a responsible gambler or an addicted gambler too.
If I observe myself going beyond my limits for gambling I wouldn't mind requesting the casino or betting sites or any local bet to restrict me from doing so when my budget for gambling is being used.

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This measure may make sense in relation to physical casinos, but we understand that there are many online casinos in addition to physical casinos. I would never take such a step as self-prohibition. In my opinion, this is only appropriate for addicted players, that is, those who are already aware of their addiction and want to get rid of it. The only difference in my opinion between such a player and a healthy one is that a healthy person can control their expenses, while an addict cannot. If a person has some willpower left, then perhaps a reasonable step for him would be to switch to games with strict risk management and play just for fun for no more than 10% of his monthly income.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

As i understand it, your article is an insight into the dangers of gambling from a philosophical point of view. The person, after winning big, chose to withdraw from the casino to prevent him from curbing his ability to consume alcohol. A very responsible decision and one that really shows great awareness of the risks of gambling, especially after a big win. Self-rehabilitation can, therefore, be safely and effectively conducted for those aware of the risks associated with gambling and who wish to remain in control of their gambling behavior. It reflects a high sense of personal responsibility coupled with responsible gambling behavior.

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I personally have self-excluded myself from the casino for short periods of time. Or well, I did in the past, it's been many years since I've done so anymore. I did it as a precautionary measure at first, and sometimes as a way to make sure I was going to take a cooling off period.

But if you're a degenerate gambler the bitch of it is that it won't do you any good because you'll always find a site not affected by auto-exclusion to bet on.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on August 28, 2024, 05:44:53 PM

Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 28, 2024, 05:29:43 PM

Well, if I want to brake out from gambling for some period of time, I can do it without applying the same strategy like that, I don't have to go that length in order to self exclude myself from gambling. If I actually want to take some brake from the activity, it's going to be a little difficult but I think I can manage my gambling urge when I don't want to gamble for some period of time.

No doubt that you can't manage the urge, but it will be difficult for you to do that when you have friends that gamble around you every time close to you, which is also almost the same thing as having your favourite casino that has the same game options that you like playing as your next-door neighbour.

That is so true, I can even compare it to some drinking spree, I mean you wanted to quit or minimized it, just like when you say that you just want to drink once a week, but if you have friends that go to your house and want to have some fun like 3x a week, it's hard to stay from your goal.

Quote from: Nwada001 on August 28, 2024, 05:44:53 PM

In most cases, self-exclusion directly from the casino can also be off help, which means even if you are to enter the casino for whatever reason, you can't place a bet there by mistake because of the ban on your head.

Yes, it could really be a big help and you have nothing to have a fall back, I mean you can't just go back again and tell that you have to lift up my self inclusion because I'm eager to play now. It has to be months or it depends on what you agree with the casino themselves.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

No, I don't consider self-exclusion a necessary feature in my case. I can control myself and avoid gambling when I can't spend money on it. I don't feel temptated to gamble and I know when to stop. And when I make profit betting, I try to quit with profit on my pockets before it's too late. However, I consider this feature to be important for gamblers who are having a hard time managing their gambling activity, since they are commited with the effort of stopping.

Because if there isn't commitment, a gambler can just create a new account on the same platform with another informations (maybe from another person) to avoid a self-excluded account, or even move himself to another online casino where can create a fresh account. With that mindset, the feature is worthless... So it really depends on the personal motivation the addicted gambler has to stop playing for his own good.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on August 28, 2024, 05:29:43 PM

Well, if I want to brake out from gambling for some period of time, I can do it without applying the same strategy like that, I don't have to go that length in order to self exclude myself from gambling. If I actually want to take some brake from the activity, it's going to be a little difficult but I think I can manage my gambling urge when I don't want to gamble for some period of time.

No doubt that you can't manage the urge, but it will be difficult for you to do that when you have friends that gamble around you every time close to you, which is also almost the same thing as having your favourite casino that has the same game options that you like playing as your next-door neighbour.

In most cases, self-exclusion directly from the casino can also be off help, which means even if you are to enter the casino for whatever reason, you can't place a bet there by mistake because of the ban on your head.

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Well, if I want to brake out from gambling for some period of time, I can do it without applying the same strategy like that, I don't have to go that length in order to self exclude myself from gambling. If I actually want to take some brake from the activity, it's going to be a little difficult but I think I can manage my gambling urge when I don't want to gamble for some period of time.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

It's not strange that this kind of a thing happened.... It's not even a coincidental event; you gotta be so lucky like the only rat that escapes from a rat glue....hahahhah

I told a story once; "it was about a girl that had zero knowledge of what a FIFA ball looks like, talk more of understanding how and what the rule of the game is... But she walked in and picked a piece of paper from the trash can and ............that was it" ..!! She selected 5 draws and it was a win for her on coupon games.. people can be so lucky atimes that it may look like you've been wasting your resources all this time.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

I won't go to this length but I'll take some break from gambling and the next thing that I'll do is to invest the money that I won Into my other business. You can only gamble all your money when you don't have something that you are using the money to do. I'll still be gambling but I'll not be doing it to try to replicate the victory I had. If I try that, I'll lose money because it isn't going to happen. After winning, most gamblers try again to win but they don't because that's not how the universe works. Self exclusion isn't helping you because when you see the avenue to bet again, you're going to do it and it most not be in the same casinos that you use. After excluding yourself from the casino, what are you going to do about online casino that do not have the option to self exclude yourself. Training myself to not gamble more than my gambling limit is the permanent solution that will work best.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

That’s just kind of funny to me, because if you really still want to be gambling, even if you don’t visit a casino house, you can still be gambling, which will be done on your mobile phone. Actually, I really like the idea that the person is really dedicated to stopping gambling because, after hitting a jackpot, he already has enough money, so he will be able to increase and spend a high amount on gambling, which at the end might lead to addiction, which is really bad.

After hitting a jackpot or winning a lot of money, the best thing to do is just to stop gambling at that moment and leave with your money. If you keep on gambling, you might lose most of the money back to gambling.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Self exclusion at casinos can actually be a very powerful tool to help people stop gambling addiction and should really be mandatory on all gambling sites. It's even better when they give super long options like 5 years instead of maxing out at shorter timeframes like 6 months. Gamblers can sometimes use sites interchangeable, especially since a lot of the functionality is the same these days, however they can also grow attach to specific features and prefer certain sites that they've grown comfortable with over time. If you prevent a gambler going to their favorite spot, you might be able to break the habit long enough or create a distraction that allows them to rethink their plans for the day.

It's indeed a powerful tool to help the gambler especially the one that is getting out of hand with his or her gambling habits. I have seen the option on many casino and I believe it has in someway helped some of the gambler who actually wants to take a break on compulsive gambling because some gamblers really don't when their actions are starting to get the best of them. Some crazy gamblers really don't know when to stop especially when they are on their stride and I have seen so many cases, they would rather continue playing without knowing that a stop at it is exactly what they need because when you are losing you can decide to play all day and still get negative results because your mind is already fucked up.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 27, 2024, 06:36:00 AM

I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Self exclusion at casinos can actually be a very powerful tool to help people stop gambling addiction and should really be mandatory on all gambling sites. It's even better when they give super long options like 5 years instead of maxing out at shorter timeframes like 6 months. Gamblers can sometimes use sites interchangeable, especially since a lot of the functionality is the same these days, however they can also grow attach to specific features and prefer certain sites that they've grown comfortable with over time. If you prevent a gambler going to their favorite spot, you might be able to break the habit long enough or create a distraction that allows them to rethink their plans for the day.

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I see that great victory as luck, not something you can count on. As far as I keep such a view, I am positive It can help me to discipline myself and avoid dependence. The realization comes from gambling itself does not assure the win; it keeps one balanced and free from being captured by the urge to keep playing. With this realistic view, i feel there is no need to do self -inclusion, because i believe in my ability to control the encouragement.

But I do also understand how such a huge win can lure one back to the gambling den, especially with thoughts of being able to win again. This is why it's very important to always think that one is going back to the same place, and that gambling itself is a game where success cannot be foreseen or assured.

If you can consider big wins as luck, then you avoid the trap of thinking that you can repeat it consistently.

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