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August 28, 2024, 02:36:24 PM
#73
I see self-inclusion as running from the problem. Self-inclusion does not solve anything. There are still ways to get back, there are still plenty of other casinos, both offline and online. You cant ban yourself from every single casino and from every future casino. Instead of self-inclusion, better visit psychologist who will try to find and maybe help with desire to gamble or will give hints how to improve discipline.

Well said mate, well not for the fact that it totally depends on the gambler himself if he really wants to be an addict, because there are some persons who just use the self exclusion option to just take a break from gambling and not that they have totally locked up their habit because even with the option of self exclusion the gambler can still decide to go back with just the twinkle of an eye and boom he is back at again with same old results and self punishment because at some point your gambling habits because q punishment to your own mind.
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August 28, 2024, 02:34:55 PM
#72
If we come to the realization that we might not have a good grip of ourselves well when it comes to gamling asking to be banned from going or self -excluding ourselves can be a smart move. This is one way of staying safe from the risk of addiction especially after a big win which would act as a trigger and one's appetite to bet more. Taking such actions shows mindfulness and accountability towards our own well-being. When the urge back to the casino is known to be too strong, limiting the access is an option that will stop further problems. It's worthy now than serious outcomes in the future.

Keeping ourselves from going back to the casino also helps steer clear of a pitfall many individuals tend to fall into, that is trying to chase the feeling of triumph once more which typically ends with a large loss.
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August 28, 2024, 02:19:41 PM
#71
I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners  and become addicted in the end?


The gambling world is simply overflowing with such stories and I can tell you funny ones that I heard from my crowd:
1) a guy lost his business in a casino and then asked the casino to close access for him.
And do you know how it ended? He bought a ticket to another country and flew there to gamble there.
2) The mother of a problem gambler tried to wean her son off gambling, but when he won the jackpot, she started playing in the casino herself. And they developed a strong addiction.
These are such sad and funny stories. And to prevent this from happening, you need to work on yourself.
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August 28, 2024, 02:15:43 PM
#70
I see self-inclusion as running from the problem. Self-inclusion does not solve anything. There are still ways to get back, there are still plenty of other casinos, both offline and online. You cant ban yourself from every single casino and from every future casino. Instead of self-inclusion, better visit psychologist who will try to find and maybe help with desire to gamble or will give hints how to improve discipline.
I agree with you that self inclusion is not the best way for one to stay save from addiction because it is like an artificial way of staying safe from addiction. The reason why I said so is that if the casino allows you to come around, you will gamble meaning that it wasn't from your heart that you intend to stop gambling.

However, if you can discipline yourself and set rules which will enable you gamble responsible and have self control when gambling, it will do more good that self inclusion
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August 28, 2024, 01:59:23 PM
#69
If the person has indeed the desire to play, he will find alternative options on how to play and where to play. Though self-inclusion is one way to prevent further addiction, but at the end of the day, it is still the person who can really discipline himself from getting out of his restrictions.
Other ways that he can do to prevent from getting addicted : allocate budget per period, once depleted - need to stop and wait for another period, look for other activities such as hobbies that will divert your attention from gambling - this will occupy your free time other than playing games.
There's a saying that says, "When there's a will, there's a way," meaning that if you really want to gamble, you'll find a way to bypass any security measures put in place., especially with online casinos where you can simply switch to a new one. The root cause lies within us, and if we are suffering from an addiction, we should ask ourselves if we genuinely want to change, rather than simply complaining and not taking any action. No matter what measures you take to tackle going overboard, if you don't have any discipline and self-control, nothing will ever be enough.
It all matters about self choice and preference because on the time or moment that you've seen yourself on the verge of addiction and you are pretty aware of that then you would really be stopping out completely or would really be having a break on which this is really that something good because you do really know on what you are doing. Some could be able to resist and stop but there would really be those individuals who would fail on doing so and this is why we've seen that there are really people who are really that messed up their lives just because of the wrong decisions that they had made on. Actually it would really be that not so simple to make such things or actions specially on the time or moment that you do find yourself having those kind of self control issues or simply with the discipline, because on the moment that you cant be able to stop yourself on playing despite of such condition then you are really that bound on getting addicted into it. People would be normally be able to observe on what the current conditions that they are into specially when playing up gambling on which there would really be those times or moments that you are already losing too much, but despite of the condition then you are really just that ignoring those stuffs not until that it do happens that you had already lost up significant amount and this is where you would really be start on thinking that you should really be quitting up or having a break but well the damage had already been done and its not something that you could turn it back. The main issue on here is on how you would really be that to stop on the time that it is really just that starting to become that making huge loses?
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August 28, 2024, 01:44:40 PM
#68
If the person has indeed the desire to play, he will find alternative options on how to play and where to play. Though self-inclusion is one way to prevent further addiction, but at the end of the day, it is still the person who can really discipline himself from getting out of his restrictions.
Other ways that he can do to prevent from getting addicted : allocate budget per period, once depleted - need to stop and wait for another period, look for other activities such as hobbies that will divert your attention from gambling - this will occupy your free time other than playing games.
There's a saying that says, "When there's a will, there's a way," meaning that if you really want to gamble, you'll find a way to bypass any security measures put in place., especially with online casinos where you can simply switch to a new one. The root cause lies within us, and if we are suffering from an addiction, we should ask ourselves if we genuinely want to change, rather than simply complaining and not taking any action. No matter what measures you take to tackle going overboard, if you don't have any discipline and self-control, nothing will ever be enough.
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August 28, 2024, 07:52:39 AM
#67
I see self-inclusion as running from the problem. Self-inclusion does not solve anything. There are still ways to get back, there are still plenty of other casinos, both offline and online. You cant ban yourself from every single casino and from every future casino. Instead of self-inclusion, better visit psychologist who will try to find and maybe help with desire to gamble or will give hints how to improve discipline.

Just calculate the expenses for a person who is addicted to gambling. Treatment by specialists will be quite expensive, depending on the severity of the disease. It also includes taking some medications, which are expensive, as well as psychological help with several sessions with a psychotherapist. In our time, curing gambling with the help of specialists is an expensive pleasure. But some people limit themselves to those who forbid themselves, by self-exclusion, to visit gambling establishments. Yes, this can be a long and painful process, but without the means, people save themselves on their own.
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August 28, 2024, 04:51:50 AM
#66
I have not heard similar stories with land-based casinos in my country, but I have heard of cases when mothers wrote in the passports of their children to prevent them from applying for loans in banks and microloans.

In general, I believe that this practice takes place if a gambler realizes that he has no strength to resist the desire to play in the casino. But on the other hand, such a gambler nothing prevents you from registering at an online casino and play gambling there.

So it is quite a controversial decision.
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August 28, 2024, 04:49:58 AM
#65
I see self-inclusion as running from the problem. Self-inclusion does not solve anything. There are still ways to get back, there are still plenty of other casinos, both offline and online. You cant ban yourself from every single casino and from every future casino. Instead of self-inclusion, better visit psychologist who will try to find and maybe help with desire to gamble or will give hints how to improve discipline.
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August 28, 2024, 04:38:13 AM
#64
I don't want to be addicted to gambling (almost again) because that feels not right and make me lose too much money. If he asked or requested to be ban from entering the casino, that will be good because he did prevention for himself so he doesn't have to be addicted to gambling. But he can still playing gambling occasionally and always preventing from the big lose which can turn into addicted to gambling. Maybe we can hit the jackpot someday but that doesn't mean we should playing gambling too often because we will have a risks to lose more money and become addicted to gambling. You must prevents that happens to yourself especially if you know that getting addicted to gambling will ruins your life.
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August 28, 2024, 12:16:29 AM
#63

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Very few new gamblers think that way. All I know is that when a new gambler wins a huge jackpot, they will always want to repeat the process because they think they have the knack for it. What a new gambler should be afraid of is becoming addicted, so no, there is no need for self-inclusion, only self-control over how he gambles.

He can still play but should be fully aware of the scourge of beginner's luck. It's up to him how he will behave in gambling, but it's not good for him that he will deprive himself of the pleasure of playing, especially if he started with a good experience.

I agree. It's possible, but not needed Grin You are always able to self-exclude yourself when needed or in a dire situation, no matter how hard it would be.
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August 27, 2024, 11:56:15 PM
#62
I personally would definitely do that if I lived close to casino and had large group of close friends who also gambled, but this could also be considered an act of self-exclusion from gambling with the help of others.
Of course it can be very helpful but it still does not rule out the possibility of negligence such as excluding ourselves from casino that is close to where we live but still gamble in an online casino.
If you really want to be able to always prevent yourself from feeling the impact and becoming gambling addict, then we must be able to suppress and really take care of ourselves which starts with having good mindset.
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August 27, 2024, 11:55:12 PM
#61

I do self exclusion all the time actually. Not to the fullest but often enough I choose to block myself from some parts of a site for 1 week for example.
Not many sites offer that unfortunately, they only let you self exclude from everything which might result in missing out on bonuses and so on because you can't login.
At stake for example you can self exclude from only the sports book or the casino for example. That way you keep your account pen basically and can still receive drops, weekly/monthly bonuses and whatever. Too bad that's very rare online.
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August 27, 2024, 08:35:05 PM
#60

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Yeah why not, I think this is a good idea for some and maybe they are thinking ahead of time. As I have remembered we have a thread that is something that if you win the jackpot it could be the start of the curse for you.

So in anticipation, this person decided to go to the casinos and avail of this self inclusion so in the future, he is not going to be addicted. This could be true for some online casinos as well, but there are a lot of crypto based platform, but I guess this is going to be effective in the end.
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August 27, 2024, 07:31:58 PM
#59
I was just reading or following someone in Facebook and he is a former casino employees. And some of his followers are giving testimonies on the ill effects of gambling in their lives. But one confessions caught my attention when he mentioned that he got lucky in one casino and just betting for a less than a dollar and then he hits the jackpot and won big.

And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Self-exclusion works if you are not yet an addicted gambler and need "tools" to overcome the temptation to gamble in a place whenever you have the opportunity.

However, keep in mind that this alone will not prevent you from giving in to temptation, as the desire to gamble may be so great that even though you are "blocked" at the casino near your home, you may get home and open your computer to play at an online casino, spending much more time and money than if you had gone to the physical casino near your home.

In other words... self-exclusion can help a lot, but self-awareness is much more important and essential for those who want to maintain healthy gambling habits.

Sometimes it is better to allow yourself to gamble and do so consciously, than to hold back this desire and at a certain point "blow up" your bank account balance in a few hours due to a withdrawal crisis.
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August 27, 2024, 06:59:22 PM
#58
So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
Yes of course, I would do everything within my powers to get myself safe from becoming an addict which self exclusion is one of the things would do as long as it works for me not to get addicted to any kind of gambling habits because once you get addicted it becomes very hard to leave such habits.

OP what the person in the story did is the best thing anyone can do to help themselves especially when you know that people around you already got involved in what you are preventing yourself from becoming so you must do all that it takes even it takes you to get banned from all casino so you don't go there anymore it's still a good idea.
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August 27, 2024, 06:56:32 PM
#57
And he says that he lives near a casino and so what he does is that he requested to be ban from entering or self inclusion so that he will prevent himself from turning into addicts because he have seen his friends or families becoming addicted to it.

So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
This is really not necessary if you ask me. One should be able to control himself and what he does with his time and money rather than going to the extent of requesting to be banned from gambling. I know there can be some pressures or forces that seems hard to deal with but one should make effort to develop that self control because it is highly needed in life and not only in gambling. Addiction can be fought in better ways and not through these mechanical ways that are not sustainable.
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August 27, 2024, 06:41:24 PM
#56
So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
yeah, I would want to self-exclude in order to protect myself from going back to the casino and possibly getting addicted If I knew I couldn't control myself stopping to gamble all by myself. the guy on your post seems to be a responsible guy and wanted to make sure he doesn't end up addicted like his friends or his families. let's just hope he doesn't get attracted to online casinos.
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August 27, 2024, 06:03:56 PM
#55
So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?

Well, I am willing to self-exclude myself from gambling if that will save me from being a gambling addict.  But as much as I can, I will not make myself to go as far as that.  As much as possible I will implement responsible gambling on my gambling activity.  It is said that prevention is better than cure so I would rather discipline myself than to be in a situation where I have to exercise self-exclusion.


Another option I think a gambler can do about all this is to get their self occupied by many work as possible. I have not seeing a gambler that will play a game in a casino the whole day. Used your time very well and do your thing, you will become a responsible casino person unless you don't do anything and you see gambling as way of making money.

If one is hooked to gambling it is quite hard to divert one attention away from gambling because of the uncontrollable urge.  I still think seeking medical help is the best way to cure addiction, if the person fails to gamble responsibly and gets addicted.
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August 27, 2024, 05:43:11 PM
#54
So my question, are you willing to go to this length for self inclusion because you are afraid that you will want to comeback to a casino and have the feeling of winning the jackpot and then become what others experiencing beginners luck and become addicted in the end?
Yes, I'm willing to do whatever it will take to keep myself from getting addicted to the game. One thing about winning big in most cases is that we might be tempted to go and try out our luck over and over again, and without self-control, the person can end up losing all that big win back to the casino again, so if leaving close to the casino scam attracts the person to visit their every day by day, the best thing to do is to either self-exclude himself from the casino or they should just relocate from that environment.
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