Topic: Argument against vaccines quite flawed (Read 568 times)

Thats a year old video. People still line up to get "shot", in ten years or so we will know how many will die from the great covid war. see sig.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/dKIfUZZ3Sn1Q/

A great number of peeps will switch directly from denial of these 'conspiracy theories' to knowing that they are real, implemented by 'people much smarter than ourselves', AND are/were a good and necessary thing.  Nearly all of 30%-ish who believe the current 'narrative' about covaids, 'vaccines', etc will be in this category as will some fraction of those who are not particularly 'woke' in a general sense.  The resources behind promoting 'the great narrative' are enormous and their target audience is not really very high-functioning.

I would take exception to your assertion that it is 'the government' who is doing this.  At least without acknowledging and stipulating that 'the government' is a minor and increasingly meaningless part of the corp/gov system that runs the world.  'The government' has basically a 'legal' rubber stamp left over from earlier times and not much else.

SMH, The government is working on the biggest project ever and they experimenting on You humans. They look at the dread, the fear, the Submission and they are keeping yall under this Hypnosis and you dont even know it. The vaccine is a WEAPON to destroy our DNA and our mRNA. To be clear these vaccines is The Solution to depopulate the World. This is nothing new So dont say it is. This all happened before our time and times before, But their plan couldn't proceed because there was people speaking against it. Now People are so caught up into vile things and so tuned in the physical senses that they allow Everything to harm the spiritual senses. If that keeps happening your spiritual senses will forever be shut down and with this Jab Raping your body will shut down and everything is that is in you.

Look at this and listen

https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pathologist-summary-of-what-these-jabs-do-to-the-brain-and-other-organs.html

If it's free you are the product.
You know who else has a lifetime of free vaccines, pigs.

Money? Where do you live?
At least in my country (Argentina) both the checkups and the vaccines are free, and you can get checked and/or vaccinated within a few blocks of your home...

The people working their asses off in hospitals get a smaller picture at their local hospital(s) of what is happening, but even then, the small amount of medical professionals I have talked to locally, who are friends (mainly nurses & 2 doctors), seem well aware of what the CDC does and how politically-driven they are, so they take most of what the CDC says and does with a grain of salt. Yet, IMO, everyone else seems to be treating these guys like God's and allowing decisions that potentially have long-term consequences.

Unless you are extremely high risk and willing to accept the mRNA experimentation, IMO, the best solution for most is going to be vitamins C, D, and Zinc, and practice proper hygiene. I personally don't mind masks and would encourage their use at times of high spread and close environments, but I dislike mandates in general.

This has been feeling more like when the CDC created a 5th vital sign (pain) in 1996, and big pharma rolled out their "very tested, non-addictive" opioid "solution" (Oxy) to it the same year.. which has killed millions and gotten many millions more addicted to them, and it isn't over yet. Every doctor under the sun defended and distributed this for many many years, and the majority ignored the addictive behaviors simply because they were told by the "experts" it wasn't addictive.

It's cool though, they have more medications for the addictions they created.  

I have a difficult time believing the guys you all tout as 'experts' are truly looking out for our health or our best interests. While many of the local ground-level guys, doctors/nurses, believe they are doing good, and a lot of them actually are doing good things, the people above them are playing games, motivated by finances, and seemingly just want to get as many dependents on the medical industry & pharmaceuticals as possible.

I almost never claim 'proof' of anything because I almost never see 'proof' of anything.  'Alternative' sources of information other than those 'brought to you by Pfizer' (which includes the captured regulatory agencies) form the basis of input I use to deduce the more likely and less likely representations of 'reality' (as I define the term.)

I do skim mainstream sources often enough just to see what the enemy is pushing and what psychological methods they are employing.  The stuff is written and produced for people who are quite low-functioning so it takes only a matter of minutes or seconds in a lot of cases.


Of course!  For about 30% it is not just difficult but psychologically and/or physiologically impossible to shift away from their cult leaders no matter what happens.  This is the same 30% who would bring their kids to the high priest to sacrifice on an alter, and defend to the death the need for the priest to perform the actions.  For the greater good.  Anyone who argued that the rains might come even if the ceremony were not performed would be in great danger from this 30%.

I don't really care that much about this 30%.  This 30% are the ballast needed for TPTB to pull their various scams.  When they go bye-bye there will be some hope, but not before.  And again, there is absolutely nothing which will turn them around.  Sad, but it is what it is.

The main block of people I actually care about would the the 50/60-ish percent who have at least the potential to open their eyes just a little bit as things go into complete absurd-ville and save themselves before it's too late.  While most of those who do will be at best not part of the ballast that the WEF guys need, some may even become a positive influence as we proceed into the later phases of the struggles.

So, your argument is that you have the right information, in this case, that vaccines causes deaths, while the official media is lying in the sense that the virus does not cause deaths. The people working their assess off in hospitals are lying, most doctors, except the ones that you follow, are lying and everyone with a vaccine will die.

Your proof of this is an "alternative news outlet" right? Are you aware of the difficulty of others believing you?

I would get myself checked, once I get the money. That's the thing with vaccine mandates, the poor usually can't opt out of it if it'll be required to take public transport or for job.

The world is just a giant corrupt junk heap. People are figting a non exist "virus".
Pro-Freedom MEP's Demand Resignation of Ursula von der Leyen for COVID Corruption
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2Uuo4xBLDQC1/

The thing is even in Canada right now, the effect of covid 19 vaccination is causing alot of chaos as in the case of the truckers, people are going against the mandatory effect of getting vaccinated bit the truth is that even those that got vaccinated were still suffering from the recent Variants of Omicron and the government in Canada is placing the vaccination route a mandate for it's citizens. 

Vaccines are pretty much like birth control pills, in that some people have no side effects whatsoever, while on others they make a mess. If you're feeling unwell, the smart thing to do (instead of saying "it must have been because of...") is to consult a physician. It may be because of the vaccine, or it may have other causes, related or not to it. You can speculate all you want, but in the end, only a doctor can give you the right answer.

I'm still noping out of it, considering it's not just me but also many people I know that started feeling unwell after taking these vaxx. And I don't mean just the "usual" stuff like swelling and fever after taking any other vaccines.

The FDA agrees as long as they get paid by the drug companies as this latest Project Veritas expose shows:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59265269

It seems we are in the same country. and it's true that this method is effective, especially in big cities where mobility is higher. Those who initially doubted, wanted to hide or even didn't believe in vaccines with an alibi that wasn't strong enough because it was only based on a few negative statements about vaccines, in the end, like it or not, they had to be vaccinated if they wanted to be free everywhere.

I think there is some hope for that depending on what particular batch one gets, but more importantly, depending on your own body's propensity for cellular transfection rate.  Some people's cells seem to pick up a monster dose and they are severely damaged.  Other people have no noticeable effect, and that is quite possibly because for whatever reason they don't have too many cells infected.

Hopefully also as good scientists ('white hats' so-to-speak) work on reverse engineering what these save-Mother-Gai eugenicists, profiteers, Luciferians, Kabbalahists, etc have done, it may be possible to re-activate the parts of the immune system that pharma needed to shut off in order to allow transfection and spike protein production.  Many good people are certainly working on it, though with limited funding and career difficulties.

Unfortunately, a cell which starts sprouting spike protein looks to the normal well functioning immune system like a cancer and it is dealt with with 'extreme prejudiced'.  Since this make the vaccine gene therapy less effective, the developers just turned off the normal immune system elements which fight cancer.  As could be expected by any thinking person, cancer rates have exploded since the jabs.  Of course they'll bury this by claiming that the cancers came from 'long covid' or some new HIV or some such.  And, of course, most people will believe anything the CDC and mainstream media say.  Oh well .

I'm not sure on which thread it was, but I've also mentioned how side effects are recorded, not only for vaccines, but also for any conditional medicine. Anyway, statistically, numerous people die on a weekly basis, some of which possibly got vaccinated or received a specific drug recently, statistically, there's a X chance of death, from a variety of causes, which have to be recorded regardless of their relationship with the vaccine/medicine.

That you don't know. The fact something happened to him after getting the booster (even if immediately after) doesn't mean it happened because of it. A lot of people are gonna die after getting any number of doses of this or any other vaccine, and a lot of people will die after not taking it. In fact, the one universal truth is that we're all going to die.
That's why one of science's golden rules is "Correlation Does Not Mean Causation".

Here's an example: Somebody died a few years ago from leptospirosis. Of course, an army of armchair scientists soon determined the person had drank a can of Coca-Cola before dying, So Coca-Cola HAD to be the cause, due to leptospira being found on rat urine. Of course, it took some time for somebody to realize leptospirosis has a 1 to 2 week onset time, so the person must have contracted the disease long before drinking the soda can. Even today, when you buy a soda can, there are people that will warn you to wash it before drinking from it, because you might get leptospirosis.

Frightening if you think about it. Got fooled once but not doing it over again. Just hoping it isn't as bad as we're thinking. A neighbor mentioned one of his coworkers got comatose after taking the booster. Not sure if it was a different brand as his "full dose" since apparently we was doing fine after those 2 shots. It's the booster that did him in.

Sirazimuth: I suggest you just ignore him. My life has become much easier since I don't have to read his drivel.
A few years ago, on another forum, another one of "his kind" started posting similar bullshit about climate change, signed by some "scientist" (who was supposed to be some bonafide expert) from a big university. A quick search showed the guy was indeed a member of said university, but he was an entomologist. Quite an "expert". A bit more reading revealed the guy had given his "expert advice" on things like dioxins, cigarettes, etc. Any time there was money to be had, he was willing to "have an opinion" on the subject.