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Topic: ARK - DPoS 🔹 ARK Protokol 🔹 MarketSquare 🔹 IPFS 🔹 Staking on Binance 🔹 - page 534. (Read 781308 times)

sr. member
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This project is middle of bubble season.

So I am afraid of the mining.

cheer up devs!

I hope to see the miracle !

from wan
legendary
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I hope will arrive more investors for this coin!  Grin Grin
legendary
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My signature for bounty done.Grin
sr. member
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Newbish question.

What will happen if the threshold isnt met ?

Honestly there is already more than 1,000,000.00 USD invested..
sr. member
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ARK team pick up the pace, make some additional effort on marketing, many ICO's preview site never heard of you....clock is ticking..
full member
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18 days is still a long time, anything can happen, 100% threshold can be met now if today LSK price jump to 0.0003121  Grin Cheesy

The other possibility is lisk huge pump to make the average price higher to reach 2000 BTC, but it is unrealistic, raise as more as possible coins is the most important thing.

yes, maybe a combination of both is the best option!  Grin

just hope 17 days left, the threshold would hit the target. cause it's first ico i'm joined. a lot of expectations from this ico.
hero member
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18 days is still a long time, anything can happen, 100% threshold can be met now if today LSK price jump to 0.0003121  Grin Cheesy

The other possibility is lisk huge pump to make the average price higher to reach 2000 BTC, but it is unrealistic, raise as more as possible coins is the most important thing.

yes, maybe a combination of both is the best option!  Grin
legendary
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18 days is still a long time, anything can happen, 100% threshold can be met now if today LSK price jump to 0.0003121  Grin Cheesy

The other possibility is lisk huge pump to make the average price higher to reach 2000 BTC, but it is unrealistic, raise as more as possible coins is the most important thing.
No pain no gain, I may think the big chance for ARK will reach their minimum requirement if the last time of the ico they made something is big for hitting the big hype.
sr. member
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18 days is still a long time, anything can happen, 100% threshold can be met now if today LSK price jump to 0.0003121  Grin Cheesy

The other possibility is lisk huge pump to make the average price higher to reach 2000 BTC, but it is unrealistic, raise as more as possible coins is the most important thing.
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research > buy on dip > and HODL
18 days is still a long time, anything can happen, 100% threshold can be met now if today LSK price jump to 0.0003121  Grin Cheesy
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yeah, stop asking me about refunds and start helping us reach threshold  Grin

Yeah, it may reach it,  Cheesy Grin   don't make decision ark will be refunded so soon, there is time until deadline. Everything is likely.
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any good black friday bonus on btc investment?
hero member
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Is there anything already implemented in ARK? I see nice pictures and nice phrases, but it seems to me everything is on the paper and nothing concrete is done. Do I miss something or this is just the way ICO works?
https://github.com/arkecosystem

There are some initial coding done, development paths outlined etc, but in some ways it is indeed how ICOs work. If the code would be already done, there would be little need for funding.
Creating a complex and feature rich, easily usable system takes a lot of man-hours.

Not to mention the code itself is only a small part of such a project. An essential core part granted, but still. For example one of our use case requires serious hardware design.

You can take a look at the current code on github and will be able to try out the already implemented features on the upcoming testnet. We are not waiting for TEC to finish, fixcrpyt already working on the code.
hero member
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yeah, stop asking me about refunds and start helping us reach threshold  Grin
hero member
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I think we can table all this refund talk now.

We are 18 days from the end and refund is still the less likely outcome, yet we are talking about it in such detail and length as it were a sure thing just around the corner.

Let's just say that if it comes to that refund will be handled the most fair and efficient manner possible within the TECs Terms and Conditions.

Now, whats next?
I think public testnet is coming soon, look out for the announcement.
hero member
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Is there anything already implemented in ARK? I see nice pictures and nice phrases, but it seems to me everything is on the paper and nothing concrete is done. Do I miss something or this is just the way ICO works?

https://github.com/arkecosystem

hero member
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Is there anything already implemented in ARK? I see nice pictures and nice phrases, but it seems to me everything is on the paper and nothing concrete is done. Do I miss something or this is just the way ICO works?
hero member
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You are now having internal team discussions about possibly launching with less than full funding and taking people along for the ride who have not requested a refund.  That implies that a failure to reach full funding may require active requests for refunds by supporters.   This is totally different than  the ARK team automatically reversing donations to their original BTC or Lisk address and surrendering all funds entrusted to you.  

I hope you succeed in raising your required funding.   However, it must be crystal clear to everybody beforehand on what will happen if you do not.

I think to keep in line with the originally agreed upon terms and conditions, the logical way would be to send the funds back automatically, unless an investor states explicitly not to, so pretty much the opposite of people requesting refunds. You'll still have a lot of unhappy customers, that wouldn't have wanted a refund, but were too lazy to be bothered with reading the email announcement they probably got. I don't know if giving them like a weeks time to send funds in again could be considered as a second ICO (or TEC).

One way or another, announcing willingness to presume with the project and to pay out tokens for those faithful souls who stayed in for the ride may boost confidence of those on the fence, thus result in donations from those who were afraid to invest in the project due to its unclear future, rendering any musings about what would happen if the aim wasn't reached, moot.

the problem with this is because when you send from an exchange, sometimes you cannot refund back to the same address since it's not associated with you.  we would be refunding poloniex hotwallet but with no account to reference where it was going to.

the only way to really refund everyone would be to allow them a way to input a refund address that we can send it can actually be processed to.

we would not be doing a second TEC at all if this one should fail, we will distribute a different way.

Regardless the path we take, it will make some happy and some angry.  We are just doing it the fairest way we think we can.

True, but there is still a difference between automatically implying, that unclaimed refunds are still considered as investments, or giving investors the opportunity to actively state that they want to stay investors. That's what I was getting at.

And I agree, there is no way to make everybody happy.

Oh yes right, I was also thinking the first question before you can see a box where you input the withdrawal address they will have to answer a question before being able to withdrawal from the TEC page.  

Q: Do you want a refund or stay a participant?

A1: I want a Refund.
A2: I want to stay a participant in the ARK TEC.

Choosing A2 will show you the withdrawal feature and A1 will allow us to count them as a participant.

That way we can determine also who want's to stay a participant, who does not and who just didn't answer and need more contacting.  

We will make sure as many people as possible will be notified of this.

It might not be exactly this word for word but we will give everyone an opportunity to choose.
hero member
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(…)

You are now having internal team discussions about possibly launching with less than full funding and taking people along for the ride who have not requested a refund.  That implies that a failure to reach full funding may require active requests for refunds by supporters.   This is totally different than  the ARK team automatically reversing donations to their original BTC or Lisk address and surrendering all funds entrusted to you.  

I hope you succeed in raising your required funding.   However, it must be crystal clear to everybody beforehand on what will happen if you do not.

I think to keep in line with the originally agreed upon terms and conditions, the logical way would be to send the funds back automatically, unless an investor states explicitly not to, so pretty much the opposite of people requesting refunds. You'll still have a lot of unhappy customers, that wouldn't have wanted a refund, but were too lazy to be bothered with reading the email announcement they probably got. I don't know if giving them like a weeks time to send funds in again could be considered as a second ICO (or TEC).

One way or another, announcing willingness to presume with the project and to pay out tokens for those faithful souls who stayed in for the ride may boost confidence of those on the fence, thus result in donations from those who were afraid to invest in the project due to its unclear future, rendering any musings about what would happen if the aim wasn't reached, moot.

the problem with this is because when you send from an exchange, sometimes you cannot refund back to the same address since it's not associated with you.  we would be refunding poloniex hotwallet but with no account to reference where it was going to.

the only way to really refund everyone would be to allow them a way to input a refund address that we can send it can actually be processed to.

we would not be doing a second TEC at all if this one should fail, we will distribute a different way.

Regardless the path we take, it will make some happy and some angry.  We are just doing it the fairest way we think we can.

True, but there is still a difference between automatically implying, that unclaimed refunds are still considered as investments, or giving investors the opportunity to actively state that they want to stay investors. That's what I was getting at.

And I agree, there is no way to make everybody happy.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
(…)

You are now having internal team discussions about possibly launching with less than full funding and taking people along for the ride who have not requested a refund.  That implies that a failure to reach full funding may require active requests for refunds by supporters.   This is totally different than  the ARK team automatically reversing donations to their original BTC or Lisk address and surrendering all funds entrusted to you.  

I hope you succeed in raising your required funding.   However, it must be crystal clear to everybody beforehand on what will happen if you do not.

I think to keep in line with the originally agreed upon terms and conditions, the logical way would be to send the funds back automatically, unless an investor states explicitly not to, so pretty much the opposite of people requesting refunds. You'll still have a lot of unhappy customers, that wouldn't have wanted a refund, but were too lazy to be bothered with reading the email announcement they probably got. I don't know if giving them like a weeks time to send funds in again could be considered as a second ICO (or TEC).

One way or another, announcing willingness to presume with the project and to pay out tokens for those faithful souls who stayed in for the ride may boost confidence of those on the fence, thus result in donations from those who were afraid to invest in the project due to its unclear future, rendering any musings about what would happen if the aim wasn't reached, moot.

the problem with this is because when you send from an exchange, sometimes you cannot refund back to the same address since it's not associated with you.  we would be refunding poloniex hotwallet but with no account to reference where it was going to.

the only way to really refund everyone would be to allow them a way to input a refund address that we can send it can actually be processed to.

we would not be doing a second TEC at all if this one should fail, we will distribute a different way.

Regardless the path we take, it will make some happy and some angry.  We are just doing it the fairest way we think we can.
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