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Topic: Armory Crowdfunding Finished! [UPDATE - *BETA*] - page 6. (Read 25498 times)

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how about a cooperation? "bitcoin wallets and submachineguns - offline transactions have never been more secure!"
SCNR  Tongue
when etotheipi first announced armory i thought "oh thats an interesting name - if i ever write a tool for it i name it 'explosives locker' or something". but i certainly didnt see this one coming...
legendary
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I think the title change is going to draw more attention to the similar names than what you would have seen before.

I'm not worried about people noticing the similarity in names.  I already expect people will notice both.  I just want to make sure no one mistakenly assumes real association between the two "projects."  

At least that one is called "The Armory" and I am just "Armory."  
TBH, I think Armory is kind of a strange name for this client.  I associate an armory with weapons storage, so coin storage doesn't really follow.

Armories are usually highly-secured buildings full of weapons and tools.  You could consider the capabilities of Armory as "weapons" or "armor" for dealing with Bitcoin attackers.   Or, the focus is more on the "fortified building" aspect, not the weapons.  

And of course, it's not necessary for names/trademarks to match the exact nature of what they represent.  Just the gist of it (or not all: there's millions of companies that use a name that has no relationship to what it represents:  what about "Microsoft"?).  If I had known an illegal weapons marketplace would open with the same name, I might have considered something different...
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I think the title change is going to draw more attention to the similar names than what you would have seen before.

I'm not worried about people noticing the similarity in names.  I already expect people will notice both.  I just want to make sure no one mistakenly assumes real association between the two "projects." 

At least that one is called "The Armory" and I am just "Armory." 
TBH, I think Armory is kind of a strange name for this client.  I associate an armory with weapons storage, so coin storage doesn't really follow.
legendary
Activity: 1428
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Core Armory Developer
I think the title change is going to draw more attention to the similar names than what you would have seen before.

I'm not worried about people noticing the similarity in names.  I already expect people will notice both.  I just want to make sure no one mistakenly assumes real association between the two "projects." 

At least that one is called "The Armory" and I am just "Armory." 
legendary
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Strength in numbers
I wouldn't worry too much about the name and certainly don't change yours.

We don't even know if this site will be around in a month.

The confusion is probably bad for you on the whole, but it isn't all bad. As mentioned nearly everyone will end up on your site before finding what they seek.

The authorities are incompetent at keeping us safe and wealthy because they aren't even trying to do that. If they raid you 'mistakenly' it won't actually be a mistake, it'll be an excuse.
legendary
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How about jumping on the onion and kindly ask them to change the name?
After all is not like google is going to show people their site when they look for it.

If they don't do it, and taking into account that bitcoin is their only accepted currency, you should keep the name and just enjoy the free targeted traffic Wink
^^ I wouldn't even ask them for a name change and would just enjoy the free traffic Tongue
legendary
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its trivial.  don't worry about it.
legendary
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F*#(@*&##^!!&#@*

Even if I had trademarked the name in relation to Bitcoin, I don't it would've mattered.  They're walking all over the criminal law, they sure as hell aren't going to care about IP/trademark law.  I'm going to have to think about what to do to distinguish my program from that.

I don't think it's a big deal. Your name is fine, so is theirs. It makes sense in both situations for different reasons.

Except for that part about US FBI/DEA/ATF agents who want to learn more about "The Armory" and keep ending up at my site, wondering if there's a connection.   It shouldn't matter, but I suspect it's not trivial.

If those guys are that inept, let them raid you and then sue for damages after they realize the glaring mistake they made.

I like stability and consistency in my life.  It's not always about just being right.  Dealing with that would be quite a disruption to my development plans.  Unless I can get them to "settle" by donating $10,000 to my crowdfunding campaign Smiley
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F*#(@*&##^!!&#@*

Even if I had trademarked the name in relation to Bitcoin, I don't it would've mattered.  They're walking all over the criminal law, they sure as hell aren't going to care about IP/trademark law.  I'm going to have to think about what to do to distinguish my program from that.

That really sucks.

As a suggestion, based on your logo, perhaps the new name should be "Euler". That might be a tad esoteric for the masses, though.

Maybe "Citadel" or "Aegis" would work better.  At least those match the "Armory" theme relatively well.
legendary
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F*#(@*&##^!!&#@*

Even if I had trademarked the name in relation to Bitcoin, I don't it would've mattered.  They're walking all over the criminal law, they sure as hell aren't going to care about IP/trademark law.  I'm going to have to think about what to do to distinguish my program from that.

I don't think it's a big deal. Your name is fine, so is theirs. It makes sense in both situations for different reasons.

Except for that part about US FBI/DEA/ATF agents who want to learn more about "The Armory" and keep ending up at my site, wondering if there's a connection.   It shouldn't matter, but I suspect it's not trivial.
legendary
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Core Armory Developer

F*#(@*&##^!!&#@*

Even if I had trademarked the name in relation to Bitcoin, I don't it would've mattered.  They're walking all over the criminal law, they sure as hell aren't going to care about IP/trademark law.  I'm going to have to think about what to do to distinguish my program from that.
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Finally donated.  It accepted my card this time!
legendary
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Watching, and will probably buy the presentation for, $10 you said?, tomorrow.

Yup 2.1 BTC to the BTC address or $10 through RocketHub for the encryption seminar.  Maybe if I can generate enough interest, I could finish my crowdfunding on that alone  (only need about 900 people to buy in!)

Do you prefer BTC or RocketHub?

I have a very slight preference for RocketHub, but it only matters if you are completely indifferent to sending BTC vs entering CC information.  There's nothing wrong with BTC donations! (in other words, pick whatever you want, and only pick RH if you don't care one way or another)
legendary
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Watching, and will probably buy the presentation for, $10 you said?, tomorrow.

Yup 2.1 BTC to the BTC address or $10 through RocketHub for the encryption seminar.  Maybe if I can generate enough interest, I could finish my crowdfunding on that alone  (only need about 900 people to buy in!)



Do you prefer BTC or RocketHub?
legendary
Activity: 1428
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Core Armory Developer
Watching, and will probably buy the presentation for, $10 you said?, tomorrow.

Yup 2.1 BTC to the BTC address or $10 through RocketHub for the encryption seminar.  Maybe if I can generate enough interest, I could finish my crowdfunding on that alone  (only need about 900 people to buy in!)

legendary
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Watching, and will probably buy the presentation for, $10 you said?, tomorrow.
legendary
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Core Armory Developer
Thanks again, Cypherdoc.  Both for the donation and the kind words.  It's great to know that my work can be so inspirational to others! Smiley

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eto please provide the actual probability of inserting malware into the usb key!

I wish I knew the answer to this question.  However, I have been thinking about how one could avoid USB keys altogether, as they seem to be the weakest link in this process.  Since there is no executable that needs to be run to use offline wallets, any method of transferring ASCII from one computer to another is sufficient (QR codes + Webcams, IR tx/rx streams, etc).  The narrower the channel, the better, it's just that USB keys are very convenient.  

The offline wallets would be 100.00% perfect security (besides physical security) if I just find another device that can help me move 1-3 kB of text back and forth without the autorun risk.  The problem is, something like printing/scanning QR codes could be more trouble than it's worth.  But if you have ludicrous amounts of BTC, it could be worth anything!  (I think the best solution right now for the super-ultra-paranoid is to just setup a webcam on both systems, and I can add functionality to have all the data displayed/read as QR codes)

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let me make one recommendation that might help in marketing Armory.   add vanitygen.
You are now the 183rd person to suggest this.  So maybe I will do it.  I was resisting because I didn't want to have to try to support someone else's program on the wide variety of platforms out there.  At the very least, I can add it only for Windows and Ubuntu, which should be fairly uniform.  Alternatively, I might just make a PyQt wrapper for it, now that I'm fairly experienced with PyQt...

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just imagine; 1GoldmanSachs923kmdi39lJtIOL976fRFVHdliwl08d
I don't know if you tried the calculation... but getting 12 specific letters after the '1' is pretty difficult.  In fact if you were searching for '1GoldmanSachs...', it would take you an average of 1,850,000 years with oclvanitygen on one 5870.  No big deal, I have 3 of them!

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i went over the seminar a 2nd time, this time in OpenOffice with the Slideshow turned on.  
i didn't realize you had transitions built into each slide and it made a huge difference in illustrating what is going on.
I guess you missed slide 4 which says "Press F5 Now!"  Smiley   As you can tell, I put a lot of time into the slide transitions, and creating a "visual language" for the encryption concepts.  You should be able to examine every small detail of each of those complicated slides, and everything matches up.  In fact, let me know if it doesn't!  I'll either fix it, or explain why it actually does Smiley
legendary
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i went over the seminar a 2nd time, this time in OpenOffice with the Slideshow turned on.

i didn't realize you had transitions built into each slide and it made a huge difference in illustrating what is going on.  this was extremely helpful information and ties the history of cryptography, RSA, symmetric vs asymmetric algorithms, quantum computing, ECDSA, and hashing all together in one place.

when i read Wikipedia on these subjects i continually get lost moving from one page to another thru all the hyperlinks.

1 BTC to the person who can make me a satisfactory and realistic moving gif file of that P, Q line and resulting R value for my avatar using this pic:

legendary
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let me make one recommendation that might help in marketing Armory.

add vanitygen.

it may sound simplistic but i think vanitygen is way too sexy of an add on to ignore.  just look at the size of samr's thread.  people like having an identity and when its tied into something as cool and mathematical like a Bitcoin address, that is seductive.  you've added just about every other tool in Armory so why not this?

coding morons like me can't be bothered with command lines and downloading obscure binaries from unknown websites.  

implementing vanitygen into Armory as a point and click would be simply awesome!

edit:  just imagine; 1GoldmanSachs923kmdi39lJtIOL976fRFVHdliwl08d
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