Topic: [Article] How ChatGPT Will Destabilize White-Collar Work - page 2. (Read 797 times)

Actually, nowadays many things have been replaced by machines. When it comes to education issues, before we needed to buy books to learn something related to education or whatever we needed, now we just need to open Google to learn and study whatever we need. It's as if right now we don't need books to study, we just have to buy an electronic device in the form of a cellphone or laptop and then access all of that. And now we don't need teachers, just ask on google, and google is ready to answer everything we want.

Maybe five years from now, the sophisticated tools you mentioned can also replace many things, thereby reducing jobs, or human services are needed only a little.

But there are important things that need human services to teach them, one of which is morality. Because this does not need theory, but requires direct practice from the teacher.

Another simple thing, before it required a lot of farmers to work a piece of land, now there are machines that can only be done by one person.

I don't talk too much about technology, because technological problems have been going on for a long time, it's just that technology is getting more and more sophisticated.

Previously a person's sex could only be known after giving birth, now 4 to 5 months the human sex has been known. This is the sophistication of technology that can change everything, and can replace everything.

But machine technology still needs humans to control it. I think that machine technology cannot run optimally, let alone replace all human work. I think the more sophisticated the technology, the more human services are needed to operate it, at least to control the working motion of the machine itself. It's just that those who don't have the skills will be left behind, and lose their jobs.

Perhaps the picture you provided was generated by the "midjourney" neural network for artists.  I would not draw conclusions about the failure of neural networks based on one picture ...

Firstly, neural networks appeared relatively recently.  For example, the "midjourney" neural network has four versions.  And the last - version 4, it is the most advanced in technical terms.  And it is quite possible that this most advanced version of the neural network already perceives the essence of salmon not in the form of canned food, but in the form of live fish. 

Secondly, at present, neural networks are not able to directly interact with the real world.  The neural network only knows about salmon from people.  The neural network is guided by information from the Internet. 

When the neural network connects directly to the real world through a video camera system, it will be able to see a live salmon and understand that it is he who swims in the river, and not canned food. 

Thirdly, you need to be able to communicate with neural networks.  An experienced user of neural networks is able to explain the neural network - what kind of picture he wants to get from it.

I have seen it writing near perfect code. When you don’t like a certain part, it modifies that part and comes  up with a better one. It is definitely not a copy/paste search engine.

In the end it is just a tool and can be as smart as its user.

When you tell it to write a poem, it will bring a crap generic poem. When you give it lots of details it will write a way more detailed and original poem.

Even if it was a damn search engine, it is miles faster than google and actually getting shit done. (Google only points you the way and nowadays it is not even good at it)

Ah, coincidentally I tried and tested this website a week ago, debating with my friend whether or not this ChatGPT is overhyped. After testing various tasks, such as writing a couple of paragraphs up to create an essay. I can say that this program is only a text spinner plus. You'll get caught fast if your editor has the skill/experience to catch plagiarism. The content itself is good, but it just copy-paste-and-spin/replaces here and there. It is much more like an art AI that creates artworks from images created by humans. So maybe this kind of AI will destabilize dumb works, but its capability is far from human.

Problem is that people are choosing over-saturated professions. A lot of people finish university and want to enter entry-level jobs in professions like laws, finance, engineering and so on but they are unable to find and then blame older people and technological progress.
Who wants to become a carpenter? Who wants to become a plumber? Who wants to become an electrician? Who wants to become pavers installer? No one, while the older people in these fields are retiring and demand & salary for skilled workers is increasing. It's also easier to get entry-level positions with higher than entry-level office jobs payment.

AI can only collect data from the internet to gather information to provide the best result. But human mind is so complicated and wonderful that they will come up with a new idea every day. Maybe not every day, but you get the point. In order to teach the AI to do that new thing, you have to teach it first. So yeah, we will always need the human touch. And everything has a limit, so does AI. So when it run out of new things, we have to come up with that new idea.

   -   You know, as long as it is made by man or invented by man, I am sure that in the end it will be affected by a man too. And that means that everything invented by man is mostly destroyed by man. For example, cars, there would be no accidents on the road if no cars were invented, the next is a process that was also invented by humans, but even though most people know that processed food is not healthy, they continue to enjoy it, as a result, many people get sick.

That article is no different from what we are talking about in this topic.

Well, actually, I participated in the process of testing this system, I have been using it for my own purposes for a long time.
Explain what you wanted to invent, but, as always, did not express it very skillfully?
Surely you can tell how he can write lyrics, draw pictures and write music on his own? It's not Artificial Intelligence, don't worry Or did you mean something else? Then explain? Just not the classic answer of a person who read the title somewhere, he doesn’t understand, and with any more or less complex question he answers something like “Well, what will I explain to you if you don’t know anything about him” or “search the Internet, I don’t have time to explain such simple things"

If you start to study the subject area and not snatch out "beautifully sounding abbreviations", then it is possible that you will understand what it is about, and what, for example, Neural Networks, Deep Learning, Machine Learning, Artificial Intelligence, decision-making systems, and much more. And most importantly - the DIFFERENCE between these concepts

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Oh, I think I understand - did you decide that this example shows the work and essence of ChatGPT ? )))) no, I showed that such powerful systems, almost endowed with "intelligence", are just processing and projection of those primary data with which they were trained. And I will add - in this example, the system knows exactly what the salmon fish looks like and not its fillet, but it cannot really understand the essence of the issue and compare the need, and draws the most frequently downloaded and requested "tag" with other entities. And only by adding this "error" to the training dataset, the system will once ask - "can you draw a whole live fish or steak"
But by the way, the formation of answers and questions is a different technology, and it is called LLM - Large Language Model. Plus a deep learning system.

Well, about texts and pictures - this is all the result of the work of the deep learning system, Dall-E 2, this is an "engine" that works separately from ChatGPT, but supplies "content for answers"

In the GPT-3 version, the system was trained on 570 gigabytes of initial "knowledge". On the basis of this, about 200 billion parameters were formed. I can tell you a lot more, but I won’t waste time, you have the American Internet at your fingertips, the American ChatGPT - they will help you

 
Although I agree that ChatGPT is called "artificial intelligence", and the name of the company unambiguously flaunts "Open + AI" or open artificial intelligence.

Yes you are right, actually it will not remove all the white collar jobs maybe some of it yes we cannot deny the fact but most of us only see chatgpt but I saw many AI tools that is already been in the market such as CopyAI but the thing with this tool instead of removing the work to most of the writers and copywriters it becomes a tool to help them, and not all business owner want this tool they still need generic ones. What I mean is technology is advancing so are we, we cannot deny the fact that technology will replace some works but let us all use CCTV that at first a major threat to Guards but still it proves that a human can still be above machines and technology since we are the one who creates and uses it.

You do not seem to understand what ChatGPT is and confuse it with generative-adversarial neural networks for generating pictures, such as Midjourney or Stable Diffusion.

The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."



In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise

Are you trying to insult me? No I am not a Klaus fan. I despise him but I also understand him somehow. You are right that most nations are basically slaves to wef and that's because almost every big international company is a wef member.

https://www.weforum.org/partners

Being a wef member is like becoming immune to certain stuff. If they want to get big, they must pay klaus a fee.

Do you have a link to the article behind a paywall / need-to-register?

Regarding your statement: Sure, nobody would argue that a complete replacement of "white collar work" is imminent. But I would 100% agree that many jobs are indeed becoming obsolete over the next few years, because they can be managed by just one person with the help of A"I".
All things take time and some industries will take longer to change, but it will happen.
New opportunities will (already are) arising of this, including new job opportunities, but I kind of doubt it will be enough to replace the old ones.

The unemployment problem that we have today is very much because everything is getting automated and that's basically getting even bigger with AI, I think it's a big problem. The industry part was true and that caused a big trouble, right now there are too many people who are unemployed and the older you get the harder it would be for you to find any job at all.

But at the same time, we are talking about now very young people not finding a job that easily, only people between 30-50 can find jobs easier than others, if you are a new graduate then it will be very hard already and now with AI getting bigger, it will become even worse. This will make bosses and CEO's richer, and hundreds of thousands more people unemployed.

It's not about chatgpt doing your work, it's about how we would find money after that. Lets be real, the industry age allowed less people to be employed afterwards, which meant that there would be less people needed in a factory, and the assembly line made it even harder to find a job there, so blue collar work became less and less paid job. Something that you could make a living from commonly, became harder.

But that opened the doors for people who had college degrees to find more and more jobs, and nowadays that is not good neither. Someone who has 2 masters degrees may never be able to buy a house in some cities, and now chatgpt will make it harder. So, where will we find money to survive? Where will our income come?

ChatGPT was created quite recently.  Let's ask ourselves a question - what will ChatGPT be like in 1 year?  And after 2 years?  3 years later?

In addition, at present, artificial intelligence does not interact directly with the real world.  He receives information only from people.  However, very soon he will be able to receive the most up-to-date and complete information directly from the real world (as a person does). 

How much will this increase the capabilities of ChatGPT?  How much more effectively can he then solve various problems?  I don't have an answer to this question!

Ai do have vast information but they are very limited since they don't have any experience and logical adjustment needed in certain kinds of situations.  Indeed AI can give us precise history and events but they will fall behind in analysis especially when there is a given variable that is yet to be known.  they are also somehow poor in application of logic and troubleshoooting complex problem.  I also think they are great in simple tasks and records but I believe the AI industry still needs decades to be able to compete against human's ability to read situations and understand complex circumstances.

Are you also a Klaus Schwab fan?
As I understand it, those nations that are used to resisting and not submitting to world leaders are now being destroyed.
And artificial intelligence will set limits for each resident for spending on certain needs.

I agree that there will be need for someone to manage AI as well to use in a business, which could create business chances, but it would also eliminate a lot of jobs at the same time. Just because it could open up a new job field, doesn't mean that it will not take anyone job, it definitely will be. Our work here is to figure out how we can be on the right side of history and find ourselves that either wouldn't be taken by AI, or it would be basically working around AI to manage something better. This way we could keep being employed for a long time. I am still in my early 30's, and need to work for another 30 years, god knows what would be invented by then, I need to keep being on my toes constantly to get employed.

ChatGPT will create new jobs and not the other way around as most people may think. I remember when people use to laugh at those with the title prompt engineer and think that they will be paid peanut but just today, I say an opening for a prompt engineer with an annual salary of $250k plus. That is the power of AI. Who is a prompt engineer?

The job description sees writing the prompts necessary to get the best responses from AIs as a skill all of its own. Wrangling ChatGPT requires a deeper understanding of how AI works — hence “engineer” — as well as domain expertise, be that coding, marketing or homework. An online marketplace called Promptbase has already sprung up, where prompt engineers can sell their carefully crafted instructions for image-generation tools such as Midjourney. For a couple of bucks, you can buy pre-written templates for “cute robotic animal pictures” and “3D game renders”. 
Source - Financial times