Topic: [Article] How ChatGPT Will Destabilize White-Collar Work - page 3. (Read 806 times)

It's definitely fascinating to see what this form of AI is able to do, but I also am skeptical about the ability for it to replace many jobs. At the very least there will be people needed to validate the output and potentially formulate what actual information/scripting/data extraction is needed to achieve the end job most effectively. At the end of the day it is often just plagiarizing information and combining many different sources to achieve it's end goal. For more up to date information it also needs feeding and much of the important data going in (e.g. news and developments) is being created by people. There will definitely be a few jobs lost to this sort of automation right now but it's hard to judge who will be most affected.

Well I think it's important to first note that artificial intelligence, or "AI" does not actually even exist yet, and we are likely quite a ways off from actually having created AI (self learning).  Chap GPT is a pretty cool new program and these types of programs are only going to get better, but they aren't legitimate AI so there upside to replace humans is still quite limited.  Surely this type of stuff will start to replace humans, but for certain things, and I think it'll take a lot longer than many are predicting.

Some people regularly lose jobs when technological advancements happen, and we'll probably see it this time as well. I've talked to ChatGPT on specialized topics of the area I majored in at university, and I can say it could pass oral or short written exams, and support a pretty good conversation, the kind not many humans can support on such topics. So I am impressed, yes, but if you take time, you can see the limitations of ChatGPT pretty fast as well. So I think that many people with college degrees will get their jobs, they'll just be responsible for cherry-picking and editing AI-generated texts or use AI-generated texts as a start to write something better, more in the line with the brand's marketing strategy or something like this.

Well i have to step in and correct that Elon Musk himself isn't working on anything related to neural interfaces. He has not capasity to even understand the tech ad he has hired professionals to build what he wants, no matter if it works or is even possible with current knowledge. In fact neuralink has managed to kill 1,500 animals because of rushing. Yet he is insisting that human testing should begin in 5 months or so.

But sure, when the tech is ready, enchantments will be blurring a line between humans and computers. I mean tech could be build in biological form with custom biological code in order not to be rejected by white blood cells, who knows. After that we would have 3 build in systems instead of 2.

Yes, of course AI will not take over all professional work because it has limitations in its use, only focuses on certain areas, ChatGPT is one of the AI that is projected as a search engine and human helper to facilitate human work.
Yes, today humans have professional abilities at once, but other AI will also be projected for other professional abilities, maybe AI will exist in every business sector to make it easier for business people and reduce costs that employers incur for employees, such as insurance, benefits holidays and others, of course, even someone with professional skills will face this difficult story in the future.

In my opinion, in relation to the diagnosis of diseases, artificial intelligence has very great prospects. 

Artificial intelligence can analyze big data, which, in principle, every specific doctor is not able to do - a living person (even if he does not sleep at night, but reads the medical records of various patients). 

I am more optimistic about the development of artificial intelligence systems.  I believe that we (humans) should be friendly to artificial intelligence and use it to solve various problems. 

Our human mission is not to solve problems (artificial intelligence will eventually learn to solve various problems much more efficiently than a living person). 

Our human mission is to formulate tasks and problems, because no one but us can properly formulate them.  And this is our undoubted advantage over artificial intelligence.

I'm not as optimistic as you, because unfortunately I've personally seen how evil people can be, and on the other hand, how strong their desire is to play God and thus cause new disasters (pandemics, wars, famine) and maybe one day the destruction of all humanity. It is true that we are all born equal in the sense that there is good and evil in us, it just seems that evil is winning that battle more and more and it seems to me that people have some kind of gene for self-destruction.

I just hope that I will not experience the time when robots and AI will be the ones who will decide whether I am sick or not, whether I can buy something or not, or that one day I will be fired because they decided to replace me with AI or some robot.

Technological singularity is exactly what you are talking about. Sadly, I believe the pace will not be slower. As you say, profit is the number one reason. Then, human loves to explore. It is both scary and exciting at the same time. But it is a fact we have to accept. VUCA is also a term to describe the current situation.

Learning is the key. Never stop learning. Sharpening our skills, learning new perspectives, try to open our mind. There will always be issues waiting for someone to solve. So instead of asking, start acting. Each minor good action we made is a foundation for something greater. We can simply help the poor neighbor, or create online resources for others to learn.

Humans have made a lot of mistakes in the past. We will continue to make mistakes, apparently. Nevertheless, I believe in the capabilities of humans. We are all born good, right ?

Yes, Elon Musk is actively working on the creation of neural interfaces.

So far, this technology is planned to be used for the rehabilitation of patients with brain damage.  However, imagine that this technology will be successfully applied and the former patients will acquire superpowers? 

For example, they will be able to interact directly with artificial intelligence intelligence (for example, ChatGpt). 

It can be assumed that in such a situation, all people will want to use neural interfaces.  And this will lead to the fact that people will actually turn into androids.

I think that this is a question that does not interest those who should discuss it, because the first place is profit, and people are becoming more and more expendable. In a free economy and an increasingly callous society, no one will be able to prevent private entities from replacing people with robots and AI, just as today no one can prevent global companies from laying off tens of thousands of people because they don't need them at the moment.

If we are already heading in a direction from which there is no return and towards the fact that fewer and fewer people will be able to work and earn a living, then we should have tried to slow down the increase in the number of people on Earth, especially in poor countries that are rapidly increasing their population. If you can't feed one child, where is the logic in having five or six of them?

Excellent point. The rapid expansion of AI and other technologies necessitates careful evaluation of their labor market consequences. Even if robots and AI can achieve things humans can't, what happens to people whose jobs will be automated?

Retraining programs that teach new skills and move people into occupations computers can't do may be a solution. Corporations may likewise be under pressure to prioritize employment security over short-term profits. It's crucial to have frank discussions about how to make sure that everyone benefits from technological breakthroughs and the future of labor.

Maybe now there is still doubt about that, but 10 years later maybe you will see that the AI developed by ChatGPT can disrupt human work without the need to standardize education or go through educational stages because it can work immediately after the big data needed for work it has been included in the program, I think this will be the initial stage where everyone will look at AI for the effectiveness of work efficiency from the bottom to the top.

Even though it is only a few points, it will be very scary because there is still a lot of competition between humans who cannot get jobs, especially when new competitors come with AI robots that are able to work tirelessly and learn quickly.

In sci-fi movies, we can see what the future could look like if artificial intelligence reached such a level that it could be equal to humans, and it is obvious that some people are obsessed with it and invest huge amounts of money to achieve it one day.

Today, slightly more sophisticated robots are already replacing people in production facilities, and I watched a documentary in which a factory that used to employ around 50 people left only 2 people, and everything else is now done by robots. The owner is satisfied with their efficiency, the fact that they work without rest, do not go to the toilet or take annual leave, and do not ask for a salary increase.

If we look at the fact that the population of the world is increasing, and that robots and AI are starting to replace people, the question is where will all these people work and earn a living? Don't get me wrong that I'm against progress and modernization, but people and their destinies should come first, and only then the profits of big companies, which even today are not very sensitive to people's destinies and treat people like numbers.

I don't know why no one thinks that if the AI does every mental work and there is no need to learn, (yeah, no need because what's the point if I spend years to learn something and I won't be able to use my knowledge?) humanity will degrade. The less you use your brain, the worse your cognitive abilities are becoming. If the AI is on so high level that it's able to perform that tasks that humans are able to do, then definitely it will support itself to evolve without the need of human, I mean, it will absorb the data and filter it automatically.

To be honest, the opinion of AI replacing the humans in near future sounds illogical. This phrase always reminds me when I was hearing back in 2010's that we would be able to build html/css website in software like converting psd to html/css but that has never happened and even for functional basic website, you need a human to type html/css code.

There will really have a lot of jobs that will help productivity through chatgpt or any other the same niche of AI. But I agree, that this time it may be on hype but getting on some logical jobs that really need the thinking of a person, it won't be able to replace it. Ai/Machine learning is still in its infancy and I'm very optimistic about it because it automated a lot of jobs but doesn't mean they'll wholly replace people to work for it. Maybe, to reduce the cost as it will lessen the personnel for such jobs but not entirely.

It won't affect their jobs but it will rather help them to be more productive at work. They can now finish their task faster with the help of the AI or ChatGpt. Those who don't have a college degree has a limited knowledge but they can also use those tools to help them with their designated tasks. In the era that we have today, it's not about the college degree that matters but it's about how skilful or wise you are. Internet and software are now accesible. We can able to use them at our advantage.

I think I am already fine to have on these AI powered tools and I don't want to become a half-robot. That sounds scary lol but that was possible. I heard inventors like Elon musk are now inventing a chip that will be implanted inside a human body.

If your job is threatened by an AI that writes articles, then it means you were already in danger years ago.


So, copywriters, journalists, and customer service, since when are those considered "skilled office workers".
Let's look right here at the news that makes it to the forum, all those blogs all those so-called whitepapers, and everything, does it look to you like journalists these days are "highly skilled"? Have you recently called customer support and had zero doubts the guy wasn't at his first job and he somehow got to the wrong desk at the wrong company?

The whole ChatGPT is blown out of proportion, it will replace things that were already replaceable since they already lacked creativity.

What class of skilled AI really threatens to put out of business or at least shrink it has nothing to do with freelancer content creators, it's actual tasks that can't be performed anymore by humans despite their skills on the same level. In our company, we went down from having 20 guys in charge of route planning to 2 managing data and 4 of them in charge of monitoring and checking the results the program generates, right now the soft we use can generate routes and delivery times for a shitload of trucks in minutes, I can't really say more about it but it can actually change the instruction for an entire deposit crew and their tasks the split moment a report of cargo not making based only on constant traffic data, until a call operator would have talked to three guys in charge noted down and typed instructions the program has done it 1000 times already.

There are hundreds of other jobs where an AI is taking over, from farming to architecture and manufacturing, the content thingy was blown out of proportion because the ones in charge of the news are the ones feeling threatened now.
But as I said, if you can be replaced by ChatGPT you were far from being a skilled worker and pillar of the company.

It's all about AI and the topic of destabilizing human work by AI is old because we all know that AI still need human to work and in order to have AI with the good performance you will need to provide data to your ai machine and these data is important to be monitored and gathered with a huge amount of data you can have good results, also you should consider that even if the ChatGPT got unsupervised systems and won't need the human to supervise it still need a human for monitoring data and for debugging the machine. So in the worst case, people should adopt their jobs and none will lose anything.

As long as everyone of them plays a part of not being a destructive member of society it wouldn't hurt anyone, most likely work i described would show up in statistics of having more stable society.
 Everything else would work pretty much similarly as it is now, it's not like we would be removing capitalism by universal income. Political scientist just study the subject, they don't make any rules but in my scenario most people would want to make more money anyway as we live in a capitalistic society, so they would either invent jobs, or re-educate themselves for new jobs.

But now you are talking about people who have work. And if you want less "idleness" in terms of working for your government to be running well oiled. There might as well be mandaroty civil service period in one's life for educating people in case of state wide emergencies so that logistics of workforce would work better when needed.

Problems on those countries are often very complex and very hard to solve. And as an outsiders we can only so much.

I do not think so.
Yes, ChatGPT will disrupt a lot of things in the world of work, but I do not totally agree that it will have any serious effect on white-collar work.
What I think will happen will is that only those without a college degree or those who do not upgrade their skills that will be affected adversely.
Well, the next five years is not far anymore, we wait to see if we would even become half-robots then.