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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1033. (Read 3917568 times)

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What blades are you talking about?

It should work out approximately the same for both the Block Erupter Blade and the USB miner, since I imagine power consumption is approximately the same...

It must be some error in your calculations, usb miners can't never be profitable unless diff drops.

Double negative statement is false.  Your ROI will take longer when diff increases, but eventually it would be reached. 
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Why some people are mining on 20+ or 30+ USB sticks?
Isn't it better idea to be mining on 12gh/s ASIC Blade?
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Was there an announcement on when gen 2 devices would roll out?


Come on guys, ASICMINER is still the only company selling gen 1 ASICs in any quantity, let's roll in that dough before we start thinking about gen 2. I hope for the sake of keeping the competition in the dark that friedcat doesn't mention a thing about the next gen devices until they are days away from shipping. Ideally that will be right around the time that BFL figures out how to put together a working device, and/or the companies using the Avalon chips come to market.   Grin

I agree that it's commercially prudent for AM to keep their cards close to their chest. However I think the competition knowing in general what AM are up to won't help them much. AM's natural advantages are:

  • proven IC design competence
  • low cost of manufacture
  • low cost of operation
  • operational excellence
  • strong cashflow and balance sheet
  • reputation as a company that meets or exceeds customer expectations

Knowing what AM have in the pipeline won't matter much if you can't match them in those areas, and they are hard to execute or achieve.

BFL are flailing. They are in a death spiral at the moment; which is likely to take a couple of months to complete (either cash flow dries up or legal action puts them out of business). They are not experts in IC design and manufacture and the price for that will be corporate death.

I've been following KnCminer closely for a few weeks. I started off excited at the possibilities (28nm process, 350GH/s flagship product for $7K). However what I've seen in the last few days has persuaded me they're unlikely to even be as much of an annoyance to AM as BFL is today (i.e., nothing much at all). I doubt they will get any ASIC product to market unless they can fund their NRE cost.

100T/H / Metabank may yet provide some competition, but they sound a couple of months away from having any product so it's hard to predict where they will get to. I think even if they get their 65 nm product going AM will be able to match them fairly quickly. But doing so would put a bit of a dent in earnings, so their threat can't be ignored.

Avalon seem to be happy to be the vanguard of the open-source movement. I think it's a smart idea on their part; it means they don't have to try to compete head-to-head with AM in building finished products. They get to grow a market that will sit beside the finished product and mining markets.

AM are the only company of any substance exhibiting *any* professionalism at the moment in building finished products or mining.
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The first is by definition not flawed.
Was there an announcement on when gen 2 devices would roll out?


Come on guys, ASICMINER is still the only company selling gen 1 ASICs in any quantity, let's roll in that dough before we start thinking about gen 2. I hope for the sake of keeping the competition in the dark that friedcat doesn't mention a thing about the next gen devices until they are days away from shipping. Ideally that will be right around the time that BFL figures out how to put together a working device, and/or the companies using the Avalon chips come to market.   Grin

Also known as the apple strategie  Grin
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Was there an announcement on when gen 2 devices would roll out?


Come on guys, ASICMINER is still the only company selling gen 1 ASICs in any quantity, let's roll in that dough before we start thinking about gen 2. I hope for the sake of keeping the competition in the dark that friedcat doesn't mention a thing about the next gen devices until they are days away from shipping. Ideally that will be right around the time that BFL figures out how to put together a working device, and/or the companies using the Avalon chips come to market.   Grin
legendary
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What blades are you talking about?

It should work out approximately the same for both the Block Erupter Blade and the USB miner, since I imagine power consumption is approximately the same...

It must be some error in your calculations, usb miners can't never be profitable unless diff drops.
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Was there an announcement on when gen 2 devices would roll out?

Not that I know of, specifically. There are usually Thursday updates from Friedcat however he has been busy of late with keeping things running smoothly. When he does post the update any relevant information on hardware and anything else ASICMINER related will be available for digestion.



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... it only gets better...
Was there an announcement on when gen 2 devices would roll out?
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I love the weekly payout, it feels better to convert that to USD, than selling shares.

Feels even better rolling them into more ASICMINER  Grin


Been doing both Smiley But i got bills to pay.

I am just waiting for news on Second Gen Chips Wink


I hear that brother, those bills never stop.


Word on the street is The Fried One is around so perhaps we will get an update on those 2nd gen chips and much more soon.
legendary
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Which is more profitable, buying 50 USB Erupter to mine BTC @home or buy AM shares?

Seems odd for you to ask this question when your profile indicates you are associated with/run this website: BTC.re
I like to see other experts opinion. I'm no expert btw.
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I love the weekly payout, it feels better to convert that to USD, than selling shares.

Feels even better rolling them into more ASICMINER  Grin


Been doing both Smiley But i got bills to pay.

I am just waiting for news on Second Gen Chips Wink
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I love the weekly payout, it feels better to convert that to USD, than selling shares.


Feels even better rolling them into more ASICMINER  Grin

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I love the weekly payout, it feels better to convert that to USD, than selling shares.
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Which is more profitable, buying 50 USB Erupter to mine BTC @home or buy AM shares?

Seems odd for you to ask this question when your profile indicates you are associated with/run this website: BTC.re
hero member
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Which is more profitable, buying 50 USB Erupter to mine BTC @home or buy AM shares?

Time machine required.
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Which is more profitable, buying 50 USB Erupter to mine BTC @home or buy AM shares?

ASICMiner Hash Rate Comparison.
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Which is more profitable, buying 50 USB Erupter to mine BTC @home or buy AM shares?
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There is something inherently sexy with those USB miners in a blue LED light...
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These usb 3.0 hubs arent cheap either..

Those hubs are about 0.04BTC / stick. (that's 2% of the stick value) (link)

But he has 77 sticks, so pictures with more hubs 'll come soon  Cool

to my understanding it is possible to run 127USB devices from the one host...... any ideas why i am failing to pass 58? would love to add another 2 racks to that photo for ya!

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New pics:







( Had three ports that would not accept any Erupter USB that was plugged into it, but worked fine in any other slot. *shrugs* )
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