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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1030. (Read 3917058 times)

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Is http://www.asicminer.co/ an official site or a fansite?

It says: Create a free website with Weebly at the bottom, which makes me suspect it's the latter.
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"friedcat.net" is still available:)


It could just redirect to




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"friedcat.net" is still available:)
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After seeing the Facebook page set up, i went to look into buying ASICMiner.com and/or ASICMiner.net. (To redirect to this thread or to a web page when friedcat wants). It seems that both web addresses have already gone, apparently through 2 different domain registrars. Did someone on here buy them or has ASICMiner lost its domain name?
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So keep in mind that this only tracks actual holders of AM shares. Any PT or micro-PT shares won't show dividend transactions since that's up to the original AM share owner to distribute.

There should be 400,000 shares visible from dividends, then the fact that some are used for PT (and therefore dividends are transfered to other persons) does not change anything here.

How do you know when and how much of Bitfountain's shares get paid? It could be different from the rest.

Yes, right. But where are the missing ones? We find only ~65,000 ones, and Bitfountain does not hold all the rest?!
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So keep in mind that this only tracks actual holders of AM shares. Any PT or micro-PT shares won't show dividend transactions since that's up to the original AM share owner to distribute.

There should be 400,000 shares visible from dividends, then the fact that some are used for PT (and therefore dividends are transfered to other persons) does not change anything here.

How do you know when and how much of Bitfountain's shares get paid? It could be different from the rest.
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So keep in mind that this only tracks actual holders of AM shares. Any PT or micro-PT shares won't show dividend transactions since that's up to the original AM share owner to distribute.

There should be 400,000 shares visible from dividends, then the fact that some are used for PT (and therefore dividends are transfered to other persons) does not change anything here.
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So keep in mind that this only tracks actual holders of AM shares. Any PT or micro-PT shares won't show dividend transactions since that's up to the original AM share owner to distribute.
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This is pretty useless since the transactions are split up in multiple parts.
(It was divided in 6 parts at the first dividend actually Wink)

I merged all 6 transactions into this sheet... can you find one I missed?
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This is pretty useless since the transactions are split up in multiple parts.
(It was divided in 6 parts at the first dividend actually Wink)

Edit:
I know that it started with 11 shareholders of 5k+, 21 holders had 1k+ shares, and 243 had < 1k shares.
At that point the # shares were ~163.5k Smiley
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You can do Data -> Sort range... then sort by Column C, Z -> A, and everybody can see
its relative position among share holders.
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I have no idea... maybe AM bought back shares over time? Who knows?

Well a simple check... do you see your address listed?   If not... what address are your satoshies sent from?  Maybe he has the PT's on a different transaction?

Mine is in the same batch.
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I have no idea... maybe AM bought back shares over time? Who knows?

Well a simple check... do you see your address listed?   If not... what address are your satoshies sent from?  Maybe he has the PT's on a different transaction?
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It's likely that AM sends divs in more than one batch.

From what I know all satoshies are sent from 115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6ATJGDCHcNEVbjJoZnF, is this not true?

Really cool! Where/how did you get the data about transactions? I guess you didn't do it by hand  Smiley

I dug through information on the blockchain and copy pasted stuff mostly.

I have no idea... maybe AM bought back shares over time? Who knows?
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It's likely that AM sends divs in more than one batch.

From what I know all satoshies are sent from 115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6ATJGDCHcNEVbjJoZnF, is this not true?

Really cool! Where/how did you get the data about transactions? I guess you didn't do it by hand  Smiley

I dug through information on the blockchain and copy pasted stuff mostly.
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So I think I messed up... but maybe someone can find my mistake...

I tried to take all the satoshi transactions that appeared on 5/29/2013 and put them into a spreadsheet.  When I did this however the total number of shares came out to be 64,459 which means... im missing some... right?

Some cool things came out:

1) There are 298 direct shareholders
2) The mean number of shares held is 216 shares
3) The most common number of shares to hold is 10
4) The largest holder of shares (in one address) holds 12590 shares

THESE NUMBERS MAY BE WRONG!!!! I only could account for 64,459 shares... can someone find the ones I am missing or explain why I can not find them?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3MH7b0EM3adG56N1VzZzdtNXRZSkdOOXcxbGx0TXc&usp=sharing

Really cool! Where/how did you get the data about transactions? I guess you didn't do it by hand  Smiley
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So I think I messed up... but maybe someone can find my mistake...

I tried to take all the satoshi transactions that appeared on 5/29/2013 and put them into a spreadsheet.  When I did this however the total number of shares came out to be 64,459 which means... im missing some... right?

Some cool things came out:

1) There are 298 direct shareholders
2) The mean number of shares held is 216 shares
3) The most common number of shares to hold is 10
4) The largest holder of shares (in one address) holds 12590 shares

THESE NUMBERS MAY BE WRONG!!!! I only could account for 64,459 shares... can someone find the ones I am missing or explain why I can not find them?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3MH7b0EM3adG56N1VzZzdtNXRZSkdOOXcxbGx0TXc&usp=sharing

It's likely that AM sends divs in more than one batch.
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So I think I messed up... but maybe someone can find my mistake...

I tried to take all the satoshi transactions that appeared on 5/29/2013 and put them into a spreadsheet.  When I did this however the total number of shares came out to be 64,459 which means... im missing some... right?

Some cool things came out:

1) There are 298 direct shareholders
2) The mean number of shares held is 216 shares
3) The most common number of shares to hold is 10
4) The largest holder of shares (in one address) holds 12590 shares

THESE NUMBERS MAY BE WRONG!!!! I only could account for 64,459 shares... can someone find the ones I am missing or explain why I can not find them?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3MH7b0EM3adG56N1VzZzdtNXRZSkdOOXcxbGx0TXc&usp=sharing
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I wonder how much the shares are spread, ie how many different people are actually holding them. Any way to get a rough feeling about that?

EDIT: I guess one could track the transactions that are paying dividends and counts the number of addresses

Yeah, good idea, that'd work.

Looking at some of the auctions here some IPO people still hold thousands of shares. There'd be dozens who'd have a few hundred, then on down to the folk like me who got in a bit later. With the 1/100 pass throughs there'd now be a few thousand shareholders, I'd imagine, though strictly speaking 1/100 pass throughs aren't really AM shares.

Literally, owners of PT shares aren't shareholders, the issuers of PT's instead are.

PT's are derivatives from what I understand.

The point is moot though, you get just about the same dividend as the true shareholders get (minus a fee) and the price follows the price of the true shares.

You only don't have voting rights.

There are advantages, PT's are way faster to sell. No hassle with auctions and escrow payments.
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