?1 Avalon Miner for about 100 Btc = ca. 83 Shares = 85 GH vs. 4.15 GH....
anybody here can follow this calculation ? or is thery something i missed?
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If 1 share is actually worth about 50 MH/s - why is it they cost about 1.20 and everybody shouting they're totally undervalued ?
1 Avalon Miner for about 100 Btc = ca. 83 Shares = 85 GH vs. 4.15 GH....
anybody here can follow this calculation ? or is thery something i missed?
?1 Avalon Miner for about 100 Btc = ca. 83 Shares = 85 GH vs. 4.15 GH....
anybody here can follow this calculation ? or is thery something i missed?
Right now one share equals how many mhash?
18850 GH/s / 400000 shares = 47.125MH/s / share
But it's rising every second
Youre right. Last time I checked the math was 45/share
bitminter
Hmm, where do you see 19TH? i see only 14TH on btcguild
Right now one share equals how many mhash?
18850 GH/s / 400000 shares = 47.125MH/s / share
But it's rising every second
Right now one share equals how many mhash?
Somethings not fully right with this calculations
Last week we would have gotten 50% more dividend but it was like the week before because some investments was done. The stat shows even less dividend than was paid. So we got nearly the same dividend like a week before. Now we have more than double the hashrate than we had 2 weeks before. This should lead to a double dividend than 2 weeks before. The stat isnt showing this. Im not sure but i think something has to be fixed there. But its an interesting stat once it will work correctly... thanks for the work...
Last week we would have gotten 50% more dividend but it was like the week before because some investments was done. The stat shows even less dividend than was paid. So we got nearly the same dividend like a week before. Now we have more than double the hashrate than we had 2 weeks before. This should lead to a double dividend than 2 weeks before. The stat isnt showing this. Im not sure but i think something has to be fixed there. But its an interesting stat once it will work correctly... thanks for the work...
1. I've just created that sheet.. and working on it.. patient please
Rome isn't built in 10 seconds
2. I've never released that link anywhere. (and maybe never will)
3. I don't get what you mean by 'This should lead to a double dividend than 2 weeks before.' because the graph already shows that the dividend from mining income will probably be almost 2x higher.
Of course this sheets doesn't include the income from auctions, or the BTC's needed for investment....
Friedcat is the one who decides when and what's gonna be paid, and I can't read his mind. Until now I'm very happy with his decisions
The sheet is just to give an estimation of the mining income from ASICMINER, no more no less.
But since it's dependent on so many factors, it will never be exact..
*Nothing personal
, it's just that you share a link which i've never given to someone / released, and then going to bash about it that it's wrong.. 
Link taken out... its working on still...
Fifth if bitcoins do not crash but the network goes to 300Th you can mine other coins. the usb can not mine other coins.
Thats not correct i think. The asics use sha-256 and many other coins use this too. There isnt only litecoin as alternate cryptocurrency. Today the exchange rate isnt as good as yesterday but there are many other coins that could be mined with sha-256. Terracoin, PPCoin, Freicoin, Bytecoin, Namecoin, IXCoin and Devcoin. And yesterday there were some of these coins way more profitable than mining litecoins. So its not a disadvantage that big.
yeah it is not the biggest plus for gpus it is why I put it lower on the list.
hey don't get me wrong I am still buying asicminer shares. they are better then bfl vaporware
Another big deployment today brought us to around 19 TH/s
Its so sweet that it finally works out like planned. Thanks friedcat and team for the work!
Huzzah!! In friedcat we trust!
Another big deployment today brought us to around 19 TH/s
Fifth if bitcoins do not crash but the network goes to 300Th you can mine other coins. the usb can not mine other coins.
Thats not correct i think. The asics use sha-256 and many other coins use this too. There isnt only litecoin as alternate cryptocurrency. Today the exchange rate isnt as good as yesterday but there are many other coins that could be mined with sha-256. Terracoin, PPCoin, Freicoin, Bytecoin, Namecoin, IXCoin and Devcoin. And yesterday there were some of these coins way more profitable than mining litecoins. So its not a disadvantage that big.
anyhow... right now it looks like AM will sell at most 1200 of these USB miners... what will happen to the rest? (8800 pieces)
Well since you have contact with every person who directly messaged friedcat in regard of this miners this 1200 are final, am i right?
anyhow... right now it looks like AM will sell at most 1200 of these USB miners... what will happen to the rest? (8800 pieces)
i can't help but wonder if the share price is being effected by the reaction to the whole 1.99 usb miner thing. lot of people were caught of guard by that, to say the least.
USB miners has roughly the same hashing power at a fraction of the size and power usage. If they don't want them, they can stick with their GPUs and all their issues.
I consider this to be wrong. I have a problem with the usb miners over gpus for a few reasons.
First they encourage power theft this is bad for asicminer since they built a device that can steal power to make money. to me this may cause a lot of problems.
Second i purchased a hd7790 for 113 usd the usb stick is about 220 usd 107 dollars cheaper for the gpu card.
Third the 7790 pulls 80 watts to hash at 300Mh/s the usb stick pulls 2.5 watts so lets say 80 watts difference . this is 2 kwatts a day New Jersey cost = 32 cents for 2 kwatts. This will take about 334 days or 11 months to be 107 dollars. So the 'free' power of the stick in the usa will not help you for 11 months against the hd7790.
Fourth if bitcoins crash the hd7790 is a working piece of gear with value.
Fifth if bitcoins do not crash but the network goes to 300Th you can mine other coins. the usb can not mine other coins.
Sixth the stick will cost more then 220usd since resellers will charge more to make profit. Resellers may ask 300 usd.
So frankly The usb stick has lots of downside issues.
It does have upside
1) It will bring in other miners and new people.
2) It is small
I really fear people stealing power with it getting caught and giving bitcoins (asicminer) a black eye
My view is that the recent and coming increases in hashrate will not affect the shareprice much until they feed through into noticeably higher dividends and that even then it may be dampened by a lack of natural demand. There are however a lot of natural sellers, as holders wishing to diversify do so.
Yes, for those like me who'd like to add to their small position but aren't in a position to do so yet I selfishly hope that AM flies under the radar for a while longer.
I look at where AM is today and oscillate between:
- This is too good to be true; and
- I've missed something and must be horribly mistaken.
Yeah I think the same.
i can't help but wonder if the share price is being effected by the reaction to the whole 1.99 usb miner thing. lot of people were caught of guard by that, to say the least.
USB miners has roughly the same hashing power at a fraction of the size and power usage. If they don't want them, they can stick with their GPUs and all their issues.
I consider this to be wrong. I have a problem with the usb miners over gpus for a few reasons.
First they encourage power theft this is bad for asicminer since they built a device that can steal power to make money. to me this may cause a lot of problems.
Second i purchased a hd7790 for 113 usd the usb stick is about 220 usd 107 dollars cheaper for the gpu card.
Third the 7790 pulls 80 watts to hash at 300Mh/s the usb stick pulls 2.5 watts so lets say 80 watts difference . this is 2 kwatts a day New Jersey cost = 32 cents for 2 kwatts. This will take about 334 days or 11 months to be 107 dollars. So the 'free' power of the stick in the usa will not help you for 11 months against the hd7790.
Fourth if bitcoins crash the hd7790 is a working piece of gear with value.
Fifth if bitcoins do not crash but the network goes to 300Th you can mine other coins. the usb can not mine other coins.
Sixth the stick will cost more then 220usd since resellers will charge more to make profit. Resellers may ask 300 usd.
So frankly The usb stick has lots of downside issues.
It does have upside
1) It will bring in other miners and new people.
2) It is small
I really fear people stealing power with it getting caught and giving bitcoins (asicminer) a black eye
My view is that the recent and coming increases in hashrate will not affect the shareprice much until they feed through into noticeably higher dividends and that even then it may be dampened by a lack of natural demand. There are however a lot of natural sellers, as holders wishing to diversify do so.
Yes, for those like me who'd like to add to their small position but aren't in a position to do so yet I selfishly hope that AM flies under the radar for a while longer.
I look at where AM is today and oscillate between:
- This is too good to be true; and
- I've missed something and must be horribly mistaken.
Check out this for your nerves and confidence...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=7 My view is that the recent and coming increases in hashrate will not affect the shareprice much until they feed through into noticeably higher dividends and that even then it may be dampened by a lack of natural demand. There are however a lot of natural sellers, as holders wishing to diversify do so.
Yes, for those like me who'd like to add to their small position but aren't in a position to do so yet I selfishly hope that AM flies under the radar for a while longer.
I look at where AM is today and oscillate between:
- This is too good to be true; and
- I've missed something and must be horribly mistaken.
i can't help but wonder if the share price is being effected by the reaction to the whole 1.99 usb miner thing. lot of people were caught of guard by that, to say the least.
USB miners has roughly the same hashing power at a fraction of the size and power usage. If they don't want them, they can stick with their GPUs and all their issues.
yea, i know. i'm not complaining about it. heck, i'm organizing a group buy of em. but you can't deny it surprised a lot of people, and not in a good way. that kind of thing strikes me as exactly the sort of thing that effects the sentiment around a stock.
Its strange, yes. I mean the selling of the erupter blades shoot up the share price to 150% even though the earnings of this could only be some percent more the next week in overall. Now everyone thinks the USB erupter are priced too high... and the asicminer share price is slowly dropping.
The stupid thing about this is... the hashrate doubled... we will get the double dividend tomorrow (except new investments have to be done). So the dividend doubles and the shareprice goes down? And the dividend will grow by some small percent and the shareprice goes to 150%?
That doesnt sound thought through actually. Maybe many traders can think of Asicminer only as a seller of Asicminerhardware.
The better for people that have spare bitcoins now...
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