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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 127. (Read 3917058 times)

legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
When BE300 comes out, where is AM's profit going to be most realized?
As a chip manufacturer.  
As a device manufacturer.
As a self miner.
As a cloud mining service.

AM's demonstrated core competencies are
-deploying mines
-device manufacturing
-marketing, PR, and hype
-(possibly) cloud mining service

AM is not the best at
-chip design/manufacturing

Therefore, I strongly advise AM to compete in the Dec 6 auction for HashFast's 28nm GN1/1.5 and 16nm 16nm ASIC designs.

16nm is a very expensive scale to design/fabricate at.  AM would be wise to acquire HF's 16nm IP and use it to surpass KnC, Cointerra, and Bitfury in leading edge innovation, rather than start from scratch and pay full market price to compete in the 4th gen ASIC space.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 254
Upcoming Dividend Notice

Please expect that there may be a dividend with minimum value which won't be recognized as
dust transactions.

1. As discussed in the board, it serves only the purpose of clearing OTC trades and showing
the founders' shareholding status.

2. Because of 1, please do not take it as a buy/sell indication.

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.

Thanks for the update!

Arousedrhino, remember how you used to thank Ken for his updates, and rage at me for doubting him?

sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
FURring bitcoin up since 1762
1. As discussed in the board, it serves only the purpose of clearing OTC trades and showing
the founders' shareholding status.

2. Because of 1, please do not take it as a buy/sell indication.

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.

I would take 3 as a buy/sell indication. Clearly there is no money for divs right now,  so gen 3 yielded 0 BTC for its shareholders. gen 4 is do or die.

Yeah, this is basically what 90% of the people around here accept as a fact. This has already been priced in mostly (hopefully), and I don't quite get how we can expect big dividends from gen 3 when it is obvious the money needs to be used to fund a massive ramp-up of generation 4!
legendary
Activity: 980
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1. As discussed in the board, it serves only the purpose of clearing OTC trades and showing
the founders' shareholding status.

2. Because of 1, please do not take it as a buy/sell indication.

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.

I would take 3 as a buy/sell indication. Clearly there is no money for divs right now,  so gen 3 yielded 0 BTC for its shareholders. gen 4 is do or die.
sr. member
Activity: 347
Merit: 250
Upcoming Dividend Notice

Please expect that there may be a dividend with minimum value which won't be recognized as
dust transactions.

1. As discussed in the board, it serves only the purpose of clearing OTC trades and showing
the founders' shareholding status.

2. Because of 1, please do not take it as a buy/sell indication.

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.

Thanks for the update!
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Does anyone know why there has not been a dividend paid for AMHASH1 units today on Havelock? If there has been anything sent out as I have not seen anything myself, could someone please share.

legendary
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Merit: 1000

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.

= 0 profit to divide?
After expenses, that means Gen4 on schedule and theres no thread....
hero member
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Merit: 500
Inspired

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.

= 0 profit to divide?
donator
Activity: 848
Merit: 1005
Upcoming Dividend Notice

Please expect that there may be a dividend with minimum value which won't be recognized as
dust transactions.

1. As discussed in the board, it serves only the purpose of clearing OTC trades and showing
the founders' shareholding status.

2. Because of 1, please do not take it as a buy/sell indication.

3. The date of resuming dividends with meaningful amount is yet to be determined. It depends
on the upcoming company performance.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
Hey Friedcat

Please provide support for the Prisma.  I've tried to email [email protected], [email protected], and phasebird about my no hashing prisma and I've received 0 answers.  I've tried everything to get this thing to hash.  CanaryInTheMine and CrazyGuy have been very helpful but now I need actual AM support.  As a shareholder and miner, I feel extremely cheated and I probably lost my 1.47 BTC
hero member
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Inspired
When BE300 comes out, where is AM's profit going to be most realized?
As a chip manufacturer.  
As a device manufacturer.
As a self miner.
As a cloud mining service.

legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
That said, AM may still be the most transparent mining device supplier on the market, simply due to the need to disclose financial statements.

I am waiting since July for the self-mining hashrate or mining addresses so I wouldn't call them "the most transparent" company...
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
FURring bitcoin up since 1762
I'd really love to know what Jutarul thinks is the great next thing in the pipeline. I wonder whether he is purely talking about the BE300 or if there's (another) killer product! This is going to be interesting. I hope the financial report isn't dismal. Keep in mind that we're currently financing gen 4 production and ramping up the production of the miners. Don't panic. I'll go grab some cheap shares, otherwise Smiley
hero member
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advocate of a cryptographic attack on the globe
I am going to make a pre-announcement to serve some open questions.
a) financials statements are currently in preparation and start getting processed next week. Dependent on how long the accountant needs, the financial statements should be accessible shortly after
b) FC has committed to making a dividend payment soon to clear OTC and provide a new public checkpoint for shareholder balances.
c) The need for a better information handling with shareholders is being recognized and it's been suggested to prepare a dedicated website to handle company matters. It's part of an internal restructuring effort. I'll let the responsible person provide more details, but I assume that suggestions from shareholders on the best way to implement it (e.g. forum, realtime chat room, ticket systems) are welcome.
d) the good news is that the company is alive and kicking. Based on my assessment they have a solid product and new stuff in the pipeline, which should allow the company to generate revenues to sustain growth. The biggest advantage of AM is its focus on cost competitiveness and solid relationships with suppliers, which allows them to grow the company organically. The bad news is that a lot of opportunity got lost in FY14 and supply chain and product problems prevented AM from generating the expected profit margins. That said FY14 has been a bad year for most companies in the mining space, and thus AM is not a particular exception.
e) AM has enough funding to stay in business independent of BTC valuation for a considerable amount of time.
f) The low valuation of AM has not gone unnoticed. While valuation is currently not an impediment to AM's business, it is recognized as a weakness and may have to be dealt with appropriately at a future point in time.

Is there any chance of getting shares onto a distributed exchange to facilitate price discovery?
legendary
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Merit: 1004

a) financials statements are currently in preparation and start getting processed next week.

holy de-ja-vu batman.

anyone buying this rerun?

What rerun? Previous financial statements:


Update

Financials
Balance sheet in May 27, 2014:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12wJMe3A6Ie8ris86m2OJ_1vucurdcVtM3fDkNCjKIRI/edit?usp=sharing

Cash flow from Feb 28, 2014 to May 27, 2014:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1phCAhMR-9_AaRXKICfN_M7gw4rI1hsOtRD_6PElmLOM/edit?usp=sharing

Comments about Recent News & Concerns
Policy: The bank deposits and third-party payment systems for Bitcoin exchanges in China are all closed. Workarounds exist (like buying physical cards with deposit code) but the real trading volume is severely affected.

Conversion: We have OTC conversion channels to trade USD for Bitcoins in Hong Kong.

legendary
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Don't use bitcoin.de if you care about privacy!
Thanks for the update Jutarul! Finally some good news Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250

a) financials statements are currently in preparation and start getting processed next week.

holy de-ja-vu batman.

anyone buying this rerun?
donator
Activity: 994
Merit: 1000
Any info as to why it is so difficult for AM to get a PR team (or person) set up? They can manage to do quite a bit behind the scenes, you would think a guy who posts updates regularly wouldnt be an issue.
Is there a person selected already - or is there a search still underway?
In a nutshell, the explanation for communication issues is that no clear guideline exists on which information should be released at which time and in which format. So the topic has been dealt with half-assed and procrastinated ad infinitum, and frankly FC had bigger issues to deal with than inform everybody how many problems pop up on a daily basis. That said, AM may still be the most transparent mining device supplier on the market, simply due to the need to disclose financial statements.

Yes - a person has been selected to implement a technical solution. But unless a clear information policy and schedule has been worked out it's exchanging apples for apples. I'll do my best to keep the issue alive and hopefully we can agree on something like a transparent policy guideline which doesn't preclude surprise vectors.

...
Why are you still here? Haven't you already lost people enough money with your shilling?
You may want to check the definition of a shill. My policy has always been to reflect the current state of affairs based on my perspective. Note that I was as much exposed to AM's lost opportunity than everybody else here.
legendary
Activity: 1025
Merit: 1000
I am going to make a pre-announcement to serve some open questions.
a) financials statements are currently in preparation and start getting processed next week. Dependent on how long the accountant needs, the financial statements should be accessible shortly after
b) FC has committed to making a dividend payment soon to clear OTC and provide a new public checkpoint for shareholder balances.
c) The need for a better information handling with shareholders is being recognized and it's been suggested to prepare a dedicated website to handle company matters. It's part of an internal restructuring effort. I'll let the responsible person provide more details, but I assume that suggestions from shareholders on the best way to implement it (e.g. forum, realtime chat room, ticket systems) are welcome.
d) the good news is that the company is alive and kicking. Based on my assessment they have a solid product and new stuff in the pipeline, which should allow the company to generate revenues to sustain growth. The biggest advantage of AM is its focus on cost competitiveness and solid relationships with suppliers, which allows them to grow the company organically. The bad news is that a lot of opportunity got lost in FY14 and supply chain and product problems prevented AM from generating the expected profit margins. That said FY14 has been a bad year for most companies in the mining space, and thus AM is not a particular exception.
e) AM has enough funding to stay in business independent of BTC valuation for a considerable amount of time.
f) The low valuation of AM has not gone unnoticed. While valuation is currently not an impediment to AM's business, it is recognized as a weakness and may have to be dealt with appropriately at a future point in time.

Why are you still here? Haven't you already lost people enough money with your shilling?
sr. member
Activity: 356
Merit: 250
b) FC has committed to making a dividend payment soon to clear OTC and provide a new public checkpoint for shareholder balances.


Thaaaarrrr she bloowwwwwws!

It was said there would be a dividend payment in August. You know how well that went. Talk is cheap.
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