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Quote from: Endlessa on September 12, 2014, 07:53:45 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on September 12, 2014, 07:22:45 PM

Friedcat's silence and not giving a fuck for shareholders (and their investment i.e. the share price) is so pathetic that I don't have words for it.
No wonder we have to read bs comments of the trolls.

Hey, but shilling those tubes in the signatures is all that matters right? The thread is starting to look like a bad geocities (yep, old person) user page.

Does nobody else use the 'hide signatures' feature? I turned them off long ago, it cleaned up the reading experience immensely. That and 'ignore'.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on September 12, 2014, 07:22:45 PM

Friedcat's silence and not giving a fuck for shareholders (and their investment i.e. the share price) is so pathetic that I don't have words for it.
No wonder we have to read bs comments of the trolls.

Hey, but shilling those tubes in the signatures is all that matters right? The thread is starting to look like a bad geocities (yep, old person) user page.

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Friedcat's silence and not giving a fuck for shareholders (and their investment i.e. the share price) is so pathetic that I don't have words for it.
No wonder we have to read bs comments of the trolls.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 12, 2014, 06:32:36 PM

Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 05:52:32 PM

You counter an accusation like "You won't see a dividend in September" by saying: "September 17th at 12:15PM is the scheduled dividend distribution per a promise made to the board."
I'm not saying his opinion is right or wrong - I'm saying detractors get traction when there is no details to counter with.

I already countered RoadStress on that and he already admitted that it wasn't a fact. His opinions don't need to be countered. He's free to think whatever he wants but when he starts trying to pass those opinions off as facts, that's when his bullshit needs to be called out.

I'm not really trying to be disagreeable. I'm not defending anyone. I don't even know what I'm arguing about at this point.
(especially not on behalf of chop or road - I don't really know them)

I vented. I complained. I feel better.
Sorry for getting blood pressure going.

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Quote from: webbrowser on September 12, 2014, 06:25:15 PM

Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 03:21:37 PM

All of us got involved knowing that communication has always been bad with AM.

I give AM more latitude than any other company I deal with.
Almost to the point that I feel guilty when I hold real people to actual standards.. I almost feel like a hypocrite.
I would never, in a million years, put this much money at risk - in the real world - with these types of chronic communication deficiencies.
When shit does hit the fan, communication is crucial.
It can sabotage even the most talented, able company.

I don't know. Not saying that communication is /hard/. But amongst all the priorities that AM and the small team has...

- better communications with shareholders
- chip sales & support
- tube sales, assembly, packaging & support
- deploying to a self-mining farm, and maintaining it
- gen4 design, tape-out and what not

What do you think the relative priority of "better communications with shareholders" lies? Especially if this particular task needs someone who is trustworthy and understands english.

Good point.
I would say it would lie #8 on your list.
Like, not at all a priority.

Communication does this:
Consumes time.
Informs your competition what you're up to.
Makes shareholders stop crying (albeit very temporary)

Long and short; It would be nice - but isn't necessary for operations.

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Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 05:52:32 PM

You counter an accusation like "You won't see a dividend in September" by saying: "September 17th at 12:15PM is the scheduled dividend distribution per a promise made to the board."
I'm not saying his opinion is right or wrong - I'm saying detractors get traction when there is no details to counter with.

I already countered RoadStress on that and he already admitted that it wasn't a fact. His opinions don't need to be countered. He's free to think whatever he wants but when he starts trying to pass those opinions off as facts, that's when his bullshit needs to be called out.

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Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 03:21:37 PM

All of us got involved knowing that communication has always been bad with AM.

I give AM more latitude than any other company I deal with.
Almost to the point that I feel guilty when I hold real people to actual standards.. I almost feel like a hypocrite.
I would never, in a million years, put this much money at risk - in the real world - with these types of chronic communication deficiencies.
When shit does hit the fan, communication is crucial.
It can sabotage even the most talented, able company.

I don't know. Not saying that communication is /hard/. But amongst all the priorities that AM and the small team has...

- better communications with shareholders
- chip sales & support
- tube sales, assembly, packaging & support
- deploying to a self-mining farm, and maintaining it
- gen4 design, tape-out and what not

What do you think the relative priority of "better communications with shareholders" lies? Especially if this particular task needs someone who is trustworthy and understands english.

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Trust me!

I'm really stoked for the next week(s). I think those BTC flowing to the dedicated mining address may be the indicator that dividends are indeed just around the corner. And I doubt that it will be only those BTC already present in the address. I guess there will be additional income from other mining operations that will be consolidated in the 1TroRo address!

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You counter an accusation like "You won't see a dividend in September" by saying: "September 17th at 12:15PM is the scheduled dividend distribution per a promise made to the board."

I'm not saying his opinion is right or wrong - I'm saying detractors get traction when there is no details to counter with.

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Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 04:05:44 PM

Quote from: Mabsark on September 12, 2014, 03:47:35 PM

RoadStress and Lambchops don't complain about poor communications though. Lambchops is just trolling. He posts the same old shite in every security thread he trolls. RoadStress is just trying to sell more Spondoolies miners. Most of us here can see exactly where these 2 people are coming from, which is why most people ignore Lambchops and call RoadStress a shill.

Neither user has anything to contribute to this thread.

But, nothing they say can be countered, because of the info vacuum.
(I can't comment on the shilling for Spoondoodle - it seems they have issues of their own to deal with)

How exactly do you counter trolling? Also, what exactly needs to be countered? Their non-existant arguments that AM needs better communication? That's not an argument that needs to be countered, that's a real problem which the majority of shareholders would like to be addressed by FC as it effects them directly.

RoadStress is easy to counter, just ask him for a source for his information and he counters himself.

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Maybe a long winter for AM shareholders.

Yes, it was.

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Quote from: gog1 on September 12, 2014, 04:43:25 PM

Quote from: riiiising on September 12, 2014, 04:06:28 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 12, 2014, 02:58:02 PM

re is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

Ha, you'll be proven wrong on this one! We will see dividends next Wednesday! The coins are one the move, and even more will follow! And AM's stock will riiiise soon after!

Maybe a long winter for AM shareholders.

Well, I guess we actually may be in for a warm winter this time! If gen 4 is around the corner and the dividends indeed start flowing again soon, our winter may be warm (with the help of some Tubes blowing warm air in our faces!)

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Quote from: riiiising on September 12, 2014, 04:06:28 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 12, 2014, 02:58:02 PM

re is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

Ha, you'll be proven wrong on this one! We will see dividends next Wednesday! The coins are one the move, and even more will follow! And AM's stock will riiiise soon after!

Maybe a long winter for AM shareholders.

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Quote from: riiiising on September 12, 2014, 04:06:28 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 12, 2014, 02:58:02 PM

re is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

Ha, you'll be proven wrong on this one! We will see dividends next Wednesday! The coins are one the move, and even more will follow! And AM's stock will riiiise soon after!

This place just gets silly sometimes.

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Quote from: RoadStress on September 12, 2014, 02:58:02 PM

re is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

Ha, you'll be proven wrong on this one! We will see dividends next Wednesday! The coins are one the move, and even more will follow! And AM's stock will riiiise soon after!

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 12, 2014, 03:47:35 PM

RoadStress and Lambchops don't complain about poor communications though. Lambchops is just trolling. He posts the same old shite in every security thread he trolls. RoadStress is just trying to sell more Spondoolies miners. Most of us here can see exactly where these 2 people are coming from, which is why most people ignore Lambchops and call RoadStress a shill.

Neither user has anything to contribute to this thread.

But, nothing they say can be countered, because of the info vacuum.
(I can't comment on the shilling for Spoondoodle - it seems they have issues of their own to deal with)

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 12, 2014, 03:47:35 PM

Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 03:21:37 PM

All of us got involved knowing that communication has always been bad with AM.

I give AM more latitude than any other company I deal with.
Almost to the point that I feel guilty when I hold real people to actual standards.. I almost feel like a hypocrite.
I would never, in a million years, put this much money at risk - in the real world - with these types of chronic communication deficiencies.
When shit does hit the fan, communication is crucial.
It can sabotage even the most talented, able company.

I see where road and chops are coming from.
They're not wrong.
The communication stuff sucks and needs corrected sooner, and with more of a priority, than it is currently.

RoadStress and Lambchops don't complain about poor communications though. Lambchops is just trolling. He posts the same old shite in every security thread he trolls. RoadStress is just trying to sell more Spondoolies miners. Most of us here can see exactly where these 2 people are coming from, which is why most people ignore Lambchops and call RoadStress a shill.

Neither user has anything to contribute to this thread.

And that is the reason why I would never buy Spondoolies. Ever.

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Quote from: sngwinner on September 12, 2014, 02:07:45 PM

I am still holding and even adding to my position but Friedcat really has shown a total disregard towards communication with shareholders and setting any sort of solid goal or update.

Ummm.. Really? Did you even read the last posts by FC? They have clear goals and targets.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 12, 2014, 03:47:35 PM

Neither user has anything to contribute to this thread.

I've become a bit more fatalistic with time. I think they are somehow the regular deal. Just to keep it real. Cool

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 12, 2014, 03:47:35 PM

Quote from: jdany on September 12, 2014, 03:21:37 PM

All of us got involved knowing that communication has always been bad with AM.

I give AM more latitude than any other company I deal with.
Almost to the point that I feel guilty when I hold real people to actual standards.. I almost feel like a hypocrite.
I would never, in a million years, put this much money at risk - in the real world - with these types of chronic communication deficiencies.
When shit does hit the fan, communication is crucial.
It can sabotage even the most talented, able company.

I see where road and chops are coming from.
They're not wrong.
The communication stuff sucks and needs corrected sooner, and with more of a priority, than it is currently.

RoadStress and Lambchops don't complain about poor communications though. Lambchops is just trolling. He posts the same old shite in every security thread he trolls. RoadStress is just trying to sell more Spondoolies miners. Most of us here can see exactly where these 2 people are coming from, which is why most people ignore Lambchops and call RoadStress a shill.

Neither user has anything to contribute to this thread.

I wouldn't know they are both IGNORED Tongue

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