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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 199. (Read 3917524 times)

legendary
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All of us got involved knowing that communication has always been bad with AM.

I give AM more latitude than any other company I deal with.
Almost to the point that I feel guilty when I hold real people to actual standards..  I almost feel like a hypocrite.
I would never, in a million years, put this much money at risk - in the real world - with these types of chronic communication deficiencies.
When shit does hit the fan, communication is crucial.
It can sabotage even the most talented, able company.

I see where road and chops are coming from.
They're not wrong.
The communication stuff sucks and needs corrected sooner, and with more of a priority, than it is currently.

RoadStress and Lambchops don't complain about poor communications though. Lambchops is just trolling. He posts the same old shite in every security thread he trolls. RoadStress is just trying to sell more Spondoolies miners. Most of us here can see exactly where these 2 people are coming from, which is why most people ignore Lambchops and call RoadStress a shill.

Neither user has anything to contribute to this thread.
hero member
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Inspired
All of us got involved knowing that communication has always been bad with AM.

I give AM more latitude than any other company I deal with.
Almost to the point that I feel guilty when I hold real people to actual standards..  I almost feel like a hypocrite.
I would never, in a million years, put this much money at risk - in the real world - with these types of chronic communication deficiencies.
When shit does hit the fan, communication is crucial.
It can sabotage even the most talented, able company.

I see where road and chops are coming from.
They're not wrong.
The communication stuff sucks and needs corrected sooner, and with more of a priority, than it is currently.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

No, that's an opinion. How many times will this need explaining to you before you finally comprehend the difference between an opinion and a fact? Seriously, it isn't that difficult to understand, yet you continually demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. It really is remarkable.

How about we agree on "Future FACT"?

Edit:
Roadstress has a hard time managing a few topics.  In example, he believes that if a miner in its entire lifetime earns 5btc and costs 5btc (purchase +power)  then it's better to have your coins tied up in the miner instead of holding them because if you hold them you might get emotional and panic sell when you shouldnt.

You have been paying attention, not like the others. I salute you!
legendary
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Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

No, that's an opinion. How many times will this need explaining to you before you finally comprehend the difference between an opinion and a fact? Seriously, it isn't that difficult to understand, yet you continually demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. It really is remarkable.

Roadstress has a hard time managing a few topics.  In example, he believes that if a miner in its entire lifetime earns 5btc and costs 5btc (purchase +power)  then it's better to have your coins tied up in the miner instead of holding them because if you hold them you might get emotional and panic sell when you shouldnt.
legendary
Activity: 826
Merit: 1004
Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.

No, that's an opinion. How many times will this need explaining to you before you finally comprehend the difference between an opinion and a fact? Seriously, it isn't that difficult to understand, yet you continually demonstrate a complete lack of understanding. It really is remarkable.
legendary
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FACT: With PSU and shipping included, 3 Tubes costs less than a single SP20 and will provide 2.4 Th/s compared to 1.7 Th/s.

But you also have to pay and support 2.4kW if you buy the tubes where if you buy the SP20 you only need to pay and support for 1.1kW.

Here is another FACT: You will not see any dividends in September.
legendary
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At this point it's just about the records and the guts. Big boys.

Yes... because "big boys" invest using their "guts" in anonymous online companies with no investor relations, no financial data, multiple generations of failed/underperforming products, and an anonymous CEO who goes by "friedcat".

pff you dont even wanna know how big boys do in "classic" investment scheme. Roll Eyes Grin

edit: point is, sometimes risk pays, sometimes it doesnt.

edit adit: and i got my own jimminy cricket. ^^
sr. member
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At this point it's just about the records and the guts. Big boys.

Yes... because "big boys" invest using their "guts" in anonymous online companies with no investor relations, no financial data, multiple generations of failed/underperforming products, and an anonymous CEO who goes by "friedcat".
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I am still holding and even adding to my position but Friedcat really has shown a total disregard towards communication with shareholders and setting any sort of solid goal or update.
legendary
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It's pretty absurd to give a goal to shareholders, have that date pass, and not provide an update or revised forecast. 

"Hopefully August divs" was info passed on to us 2nd hand, not from Friedcat. 

FC would not say something he would not be sure of (ie. he would not lie). Whether you can deal with it or not, it is a business philosophy i am more confident with.
But i get it that it could also appear as some treachery to other people. At this point it's just about the records and the guts. Big boys.
hero member
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It's pretty absurd to give a goal to shareholders, have that date pass, and not provide an update or revised forecast. 

"Hopefully August divs" was info passed on to us 2nd hand, not from Friedcat. 
hero member
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Funny how this thread was really readable for a few days while the trolls were hiding.
Must be the weekend that brought them out of their holes...  Grin
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Bitgoblin
If you plant enough seeds one of them is bound to grow
If they all grow, however...
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Teh only lulz in here are your lameful once in a while trolling Kiss

I don't know why you're even bothering wasting your time with this person. Just stick him on ignore. He just basically repeats the same old crap every post regardless of the thread. "It's a scam. I warned you from the very beginning! I'm so clever and you're so stupid!"

His rambling is just boring and predictable at this point.
If you plant enough seeds one of them is bound to grow
sr. member
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... He just basically repeats the same old crap every post regardless of the thread. "It's a scam. I warned you from the very beginning! I'm so clever and you're so stupid!"

...and hasn't been wrong ONCE.

Either i'm really smart, or you're really stupid for "investing" in a market where EVERYTHING is a scam, or, at best, an honest failure.  

Food for thought Smiley
full member
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I just don't get why Friedcat can't acknowledge that he missed his target of dividends by end of August and present a new target or goal that will be accomplished by a certain timeline. It's pretty absurd to give a goal to shareholders, have that date pass, and not provide an update or revised forecast.

Friedcat, you're responsible to shareholders. Please start giving a little more information so were not just blowing in the wind.
legendary
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Teh only lulz in here are your lameful once in a while trolling Kiss

I don't know why you're even bothering wasting your time with this person. Just stick him on ignore. He just basically repeats the same old crap every post regardless of the thread. "It's a scam. I warned you from the very beginning! I'm so clever and you're so stupid!"

His rambling is just boring and predictable at this point.
sr. member
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Which scam thread do I remember you from, hdbuck?   Not that it matters, they're all basically the same.  Did it go something like this?
  
  1.  I called a scam.
  2.  You thought you knew better.
  3.  You raged.
  4.  The scam, as promised, turned out to be a scam.
  5.  You forgot to admit your stupidity and apologise, because stupid.

Just for giggles, tho, which one was it?  No lying now, you're probably no better at that than at investin' Angry

  ~Happy Investing!
legendary
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Lulz


Teh only lulz in here are your lameful once in a while trolling Kiss
sr. member
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FACT: You don't have any information to be making the claim that miners are not selling as well as expected. You don't have the necessary info to backup the majority of your claims.
...

None of you have any info, because no one who does is talking to you.
Two possible reasons for this:

  1.  Things are going swimmingly, and Friedcat enjoys trolling you.
  2.  Things are, indeed, as ass as they seem Smiley

Not that I don't enjoy your pep talks, Mabsurk, I do.  Something romantic about doggedly sticking to untenable positions, and fuck logic and common sense.
And, I won't lie, there's teh lulz.
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