ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 488.

ThickAsThieves

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Quote from: AMuppInTime on February 21, 2014, 03:20:08 PM

re: TAT's AM asset to Havelock.
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I worry that there ALWAYS was a connection between the two, that insider trading might have happened and that this is currently happening to prevent any future connection link (so that investigations cannot link to him directly? so that he can work directly with ASICMiner as PR?)
Why else would you drop the one asset that made you anything? It doesn't make sense to me.

discl: I urge folks to not use Havelock and always have, and do not trust TAT either. If you have to buy/sell shares, buy direct.

This is exactly nonsense.

AMuppInTime

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re: TAT's AM asset to Havelock.
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I worry that there ALWAYS was a connection between the two, that insider trading might have happened and that this is currently happening to prevent any future connection link (so that investigations cannot link to him directly? so that he can work directly with ASICMiner as PR?)
Why else would you drop the one asset that made you anything? It doesn't make sense to me.

discl: I urge folks to not use Havelock and always have, and do not trust TAT either. If you have to buy/sell shares, buy direct.

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 20, 2014, 04:48:54 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 20, 2014, 03:44:36 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 11:35:26 AM

*sigh* Maybe to distract us from the current Bitcoin bear market, we should talk about the upcoming gen3 tapeout announcement... that should be any day now right?

Before March, I'd guess. Tapeout should have taken place by now so they'll need a few days to receive sample chips, confirm/adjust the official specifications and we'll get an announcement.

Hmm... didn't know it was possible to get sample chips a few days after tapeout.

AFAIK they're producing maybe a wafer to verify everything's fine before producing the actual 100 (which then takes a month)

Yeah but those initial sample wafers will be about a month or two after tape out, not a day or two. Tape out is just the completion of the design. Turning that design into wafers takes weeks.

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Quote from: bitcoin.newsfeed on February 21, 2014, 09:59:44 AM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 21, 2014, 08:50:36 AM

Quote from: willBTC on February 20, 2014, 11:15:57 PM

So, in logic, we will know the result of tape out in March , as well as the sample chips. But the mass delivery will be in May only if everything is fine.

when the tapeout date was still 'early february', friedcat said the march date was still valid. If tapeout really has occurred by now, I'd guesstimate a first batch of mass delivery by mid April. Given their time projections are realistic. If they decide to put 1 PH/s in their immersion cooling center, they'd also have 10% of the network while still having chips left to sell. But that is pure speculation from my side given the numbers friedcat gave us.

10% with 1PH? wake up ...

Network speed is 27 PH now. 1/27 is = 3.7% now ... much more lower in April, IF Friedcat is able to deliver something at all ... we'll need much more internal hashrate and new datacenter(s) , if we want again achieve at least 10% of the network

not...going . . . to. . . happen

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 21, 2014, 08:50:36 AM

Quote from: willBTC on February 20, 2014, 11:15:57 PM

So, in logic, we will know the result of tape out in March , as well as the sample chips. But the mass delivery will be in May only if everything is fine.

when the tapeout date was still 'early february', friedcat said the march date was still valid. If tapeout really has occurred by now, I'd guesstimate a first batch of mass delivery by mid April. Given their time projections are realistic. If they decide to put 1 PH/s in their immersion cooling center, they'd also have 10% of the network while still having chips left to sell. But that is pure speculation from my side given the numbers friedcat gave us.

10% with 1PH? wake up ...

Network speed is 27 PH now. 1/27 is = 3.7% now ... much more lower in April, IF Friedcat is able to deliver something at all ... we'll need much more internal hashrate and new datacenter(s) , if we want again achieve at least 10% of the network

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Quote from: willBTC on February 20, 2014, 11:15:57 PM

So, in logic, we will know the result of tape out in March , as well as the sample chips. But the mass delivery will be in May only if everything is fine.

when the tapeout date was still 'early february', friedcat said the march date was still valid. If tapeout really has occurred by now, I'd guesstimate a first batch of mass delivery by mid April. Given their time projections are realistic. If they decide to put 1 PH/s in their immersion cooling center, they'd also have 10% of the network while still having chips left to sell. But that is pure speculation from my side given the numbers friedcat gave us.

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Nighty Night Don't Let The Trolls Bite Nom Nom Nom

Quote from: 101111 on February 21, 2014, 07:33:56 AM

Quote from: elasticband on February 21, 2014, 07:24:25 AM

is there a havelock specific thread anywhere? my account is showing locked..................

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.280

thanks for a heads up

by the time you posted that haclock had responded to my support email and my account was unlocked. so not a long wait, a little notification would have been nice, but funds are still there and i am still alive.... no harm no foul, thanks again!

spartan82

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If I didn't read this thread I'd be panicking myself too. Real fucked up move there havelock. Sorry but an email notifying us of this would have saved a lot of headache and complaints from everyone. This wait to trade is not something that people want to be waiting around for in order to access funds. Very unfair on us all

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Quote from: elasticband on February 21, 2014, 07:24:25 AM

is there a havelock specific thread anywhere? my account is showing locked..................

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135035.280

elasticband

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is there a havelock specific thread anywhere? my account is showing locked..................

Fordee

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No, you are incorrect.

Quote from: friedcat on January 29, 2014, 07:25:09 AM

Update

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

The man himself stated mass delivery in March. His word is good for me.

AM is still rated as a buy.

As he started mass DELIVERY in March, then obviously he's already lined up mass Production.

(and cheap shares on Havelock right now is even better! Yum Yum Yum.. )

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 20, 2014, 04:48:54 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 20, 2014, 03:44:36 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 11:35:26 AM

*sigh* Maybe to distract us from the current Bitcoin bear market, we should talk about the upcoming gen3 tapeout announcement... that should be any day now right?

Before March, I'd guess. Tapeout should have taken place by now so they'll need a few days to receive sample chips, confirm/adjust the official specifications and we'll get an announcement.

Hmm... didn't know it was possible to get sample chips a few days after tapeout.

AFAIK they're producing maybe a wafer to verify everything's fine before producing the actual 100 (which then takes a month)

So, in logic, we will know the result of tape out in March , as well as the sample chips. But the mass delivery will be in May only if everything is fine.

minerpumpkin

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Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 04:44:10 PM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 20, 2014, 03:44:36 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 11:35:26 AM

*sigh* Maybe to distract us from the current Bitcoin bear market, we should talk about the upcoming gen3 tapeout announcement... that should be any day now right?

Before March, I'd guess. Tapeout should have taken place by now so they'll need a few days to receive sample chips, confirm/adjust the official specifications and we'll get an announcement.

Hmm... didn't know it was possible to get sample chips a few days after tapeout.

AFAIK they're producing maybe a wafer to verify everything's fine before producing the actual 100 (which then takes a month)

chriswilmer

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on February 20, 2014, 03:44:36 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 11:35:26 AM

*sigh* Maybe to distract us from the current Bitcoin bear market, we should talk about the upcoming gen3 tapeout announcement... that should be any day now right?

Before March, I'd guess. Tapeout should have taken place by now so they'll need a few days to receive sample chips, confirm/adjust the official specifications and we'll get an announcement.

Hmm... didn't know it was possible to get sample chips a few days after tapeout.

minerpumpkin

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Quote from: chriswilmer on February 20, 2014, 11:35:26 AM

*sigh* Maybe to distract us from the current Bitcoin bear market, we should talk about the upcoming gen3 tapeout announcement... that should be any day now right?

Before March, I'd guess. Tapeout should have taken place by now so they'll need a few days to receive sample chips, confirm/adjust the official specifications and we'll get an announcement.

chriswilmer

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*sigh* Maybe to distract us from the current Bitcoin bear market, we should talk about the upcoming gen3 tapeout announcement... that should be any day now right?

kaizuki

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I hope i can get my interests of am100 tommorow morning.

pisciolatzu

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ars longa, vita brevis

Thanks for the cheap shares

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Quote from: Zubilica on February 20, 2014, 04:58:52 AM

Sell off has begun, until 0.39 is no support on Havelock.

Sweet cheap shares!

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Sell off has begun, until 0.39 is no support on Havelock.

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