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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 656. (Read 3917468 times)

sr. member
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BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....

They have only 220TH in hand.
I know ,they said they got produced chips which equal to 1PH... about weeks ago...

Where did you get this information?
http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8775&extra=page%3D1

Sorry , they said they nearly finish its 2nd chips ,which is in 40nm standard...and they will going to order about 1ph-1.5 ph of chips in the future...




So they were all like "hey let's IPO" and then realised they didn't wanted to share their profits and backed away?



Probably, they are bad guy, if they isn't suspend the IPO , I would stay with them...then I can avoided my extremely loss with AM.....
I just sold all my AM shares at BF which is as low as 0.6 !!! lesson learned.... 30K USD (all profit) destroyed by it.... however i still not making any loss, but I feel I really need stop before something burning myself.....
hero member
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Bitgoblin
BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....

They have only 220TH in hand.
I know ,they said they got produced chips which equal to 1PH... about weeks ago...

Where did you get this information?
http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8775&extra=page%3D1

Sorry , they said they nearly finish its 2nd chips ,which is in 40nm standard...and they will going to order about 1ph-1.5 ph of chips in the future...



So they were all like "hey let's IPO" and then realised they didn't wanted to share their profits and backed away?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....

They have only 220TH in hand.
I know ,they said they got produced chips which equal to 1PH... about weeks ago...

Where did you get this information?
http://bbs.btcman.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8775&extra=page%3D1

Sorry , they said they nearly finish its 2nd chips ,which is in 40nm standard...and they will going to order about 1ph-1.5 ph of chips in the future...

newbie
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BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....

They have only 220TH in hand.
I know ,they said they got produced chips which equal to 1PH... about weeks ago...

Where did you get this information?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....

They have only 220TH in hand.
I know ,they said they got produced chips which equal to 1PH... about weeks ago...
full member
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newbie
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BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....

They have only 220TH in hand.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
3313TH.

Hashrate hit 3PH,much sooner than most people expected.

And the 500TH of AM much later.


BTCGARDEN They just got its 1ph ....
sr. member
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They most likely will be sold at around 0.2B/GH this month, and 0.1B/GH next month.
why would he sell at those prices, when he can get .3-.5 btc/GH?
legendary
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serious mining activity in shenzhen/HK right now...

https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay

asicminer?
newbie
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3313TH.

Hashrate hit 3PH,much sooner than most people expected.

And the 500TH of AM much later.

hero member
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Well for me I exchanged some ASICMINER to MCXFee on MCXNow. Will be back in a stronger position if I started to see some hashing power. But really even 0.3 is 3 times the IPO price, Still pretty good in my opinion. Well for the ones who were here since IPO...
legendary
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3) I guess there was a failed out 65nm chip design.


where do you get this information from?

Although there's some rumor in Chinese forums, but it's just my wild guess. Only this can explain why Friedcat is still seeking collaboration with other gen-2 chip teams in China now. It's almost one year after their success in designing the gen-1 chips. I cannot believe they've done nothing in designing 65nm chips.
legendary
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3) I guess there was a failed out 65nm chip design.


where do you get this information from?


1) where is 200TH as expected before?
2) he is only guessing, source really matters?
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bitcoin hodler

3) I guess there was a failed out 65nm chip design.


where do you get this information from?
legendary
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It's going to go back up somewhat if friedcat deploys / sells the promised 500 TH/s very soon.

Friedcat will only deploy 60TH in the new data center with new cooling technology, and the rest needs to be sold quickly or rely on franchising. They most likely will be sold at around 0.2B/GH this month, and 0.1B/GH next month.

Even all 500TH are sold in 0.2B/G, that's just 100K BTC. 100K BTC / 400K = 0.25 BTC per share. That's already the best scenario.
legendary
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Friedcat was try to hire a competent asic designer months ago and he said he did not expect to get one from China then(according to rockxie's slides). In his latest updates, he also mentioned without enough channels, it's very difficult to find good candidates. But at least he has locked some exceptional ones now. A little bit too late, apparently.

frankly, MUCH too late. He should have started this at the latest after taping out his first chip.
Now thats easy to say, Im sure he had other things on his mind, but its true nonetheless.

I can manage to guess some of the reasons:
1) Months ago, not too many people believe 22nm/28nm chips are the proper way to go due to the high NRE cost and limited product lines. Since all fabs are busying in supplying big guys such as Intel and AMD, it's almost impossible to make an order for small companies. (It is also mentioned in the letter of Howard (Labcoin)) Remember Friedcat began this project partly because there're many idle product lines in Shenzhen with almost obsolete 130nm technology.

2) Friedcat is a geek (ASIC designer, former Haskell fan), not a genius business man. I believe what he achieved was beyond his best imagination. Therefore, he was not so ambitious to begin 28nm project immediately after the tape out of gen1 chips. Remember that time he did not know how well the sales of 130nm products will be and how the competitors will do. Moreover, creating the boards suppler, USB product lines, and sales channels had already taken up most of his time.

3) I guess there was a failed out 65nm chip design. Friedcat is a honest man, but to be honest does not equal to disclosing everything.

 
hero member
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It's going to go back up somewhat if friedcat deploys / sells the promised 500 TH/s very soon.

yep
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It's going to go back up somewhat if friedcat deploys / sells the promised 500 TH/s very soon.
legendary
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Friedcat was try to hire a competent asic designer months ago and he said he did not expect to get one from China then(according to rockxie's slides). In his latest updates, he also mentioned without enough channels, it's very difficult to find good candidates. But at least he has locked some exceptional ones now. A little bit too late, apparently.

frankly, MUCH too late. He should have started this at the latest after taping out his first chip.
Now thats easy to say, Im sure he had other things on his mind, but its true nonetheless.
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