Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 713. (Read 3917468 times)
September 12, 2013, 07:17:36 AM
it's nice to see the sunrise after dark
September 11, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
vycid, sorry for bothering your cuddling attempts...
but could you guys please change your style of quoting? it's not necessary to requote an already 7-quote-long talk (only if it's worth for getting the context...but that is not needed here).
my middle finger which lays on my mousewheel says Thank you!
Sorry - I would, but I'm usually on my phone and the selector thingy gets fucked up when I try to select more than the length of the text box.but could you guys please change your style of quoting? it's not necessary to requote an already 7-quote-long talk (only if it's worth for getting the context...but that is not needed here).
my middle finger which lays on my mousewheel says Thank you!
I'll do my best from now on.
respect though for posting via phone (24h bitcoiner hu?
)personally that screensize would drive me nuts in some threads here...
September 11, 2013, 06:27:39 PM
I propose the "hidden variable" explanation for this correlation. When AM is finding blocks after a dry spell, more people are posting stupid things. When more people are posting stupid things, Vycid is pointing out more stupid things.
I take your post as my first positive evidence of this theory.
I take your post as my first positive evidence of this theory.
vycid, sorry for bothering your cuddling attempts...
but could you guys please change your style of quoting? it's not necessary to requote an already 7-quote-long talk (only if it's worth for getting the context...but that is not needed here).
my middle finger which lays on my mousewheel says Thank you!
Sorry - I would, but I'm usually on my phone and the selector thingy gets fucked up when I try to select more than the length of the text box.
I'll do my best from now on.
September 11, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
I propose the "hidden variable" explanation for this correlation. When AM is finding blocks after a dry spell, more people are posting stupid things. When more people are posting stupid things, Vycid is pointing out more stupid things.
I take your post as my first positive evidence of this theory.
I take your post as my first positive evidence of this theory.
vycid, sorry for bothering your cuddling attempts...
but could you guys please change your style of quoting? it's not necessary to requote an already 7-quote-long talk (only if it's worth for getting the context...but that is not needed here).
my middle finger which lays on my mousewheel says Thank you!
September 11, 2013, 05:25:45 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
Thanks for keeping track of this!
so, ~2786 btc or so that hasn't gone into divs from HW sales. Maybe they will go in next week.
If that top address (9000 BTC) is withholding for expansion, that's a serious expansion planned.
Probably about a petahash.
Trouble is that it's still in BTC. If FC is going to be full-scale deployed by December he should have already sold that. Lead time on chips alone from e-beam sample receipt to full-scale 55nm shipping is probably in the neighborhood of ten weeks. Then there's the delay for assembly and deployment.
Either a large scale BTC buyer owns that address, or FC hasn't started using his Gen 2 funds. As far as I know, no 55nm-capable foundry accepts bitcoin.
Not to mention he's playing with fire by keeping future fiat liabilities in Bitcoin in the first place. That's like a gold mining company hoarding gold bars to save up for a new mine that they had promised to investors.
Disclaimer: Vycid stands to gain significantly from AM losing value and is still butt-hurt from this morning when he convinced himself the hash rate might actually stay at 0.
LOL. Disclaimer is in my sig, there's a giant image of carebears next to my name with the caption "the AM bear who cares".
With such powers of observation, I'm sure you make excellent investment choices.
Also - if you had actually read my posts, you would have realized that I was mocking the people who thought this fluctuation was anything other than chance.
There is a strong correlation between "Vycid is posting to the forum" and "AM is finding a block": Sometimes it is silent for 12 hours, and at other times, there is noice every 10 minutes. Let's call it luck when it is quiet. 
Oh, AM found a block and Vycid only posted twice in the last couple of minutes. - Vycid, which btc securities are recommended right now?
I propose the "hidden variable" explanation for this correlation. When AM is finding blocks after a dry spell, more people are posting stupid things. When more people are posting stupid things, Vycid is pointing out more stupid things.
I take your post as my first positive evidence of this theory.
September 11, 2013, 05:12:48 PM
sorry to interrupt...i see vycid is making friends again (watch his avatar - he's sucha lovely bear, you just have to cuddle him 
)
if somebody missed it, this list is very good to keep track of the market and the available and soon to be delievered asicminers and their calculated profits.
http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/
)if somebody missed it, this list is very good to keep track of the market and the available and soon to be delievered asicminers and their calculated profits.
http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/
September 11, 2013, 05:06:08 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
Thanks for keeping track of this!
so, ~2786 btc or so that hasn't gone into divs from HW sales. Maybe they will go in next week.
If that top address (9000 BTC) is withholding for expansion, that's a serious expansion planned.
Probably about a petahash.
Trouble is that it's still in BTC. If FC is going to be full-scale deployed by December he should have already sold that. Lead time on chips alone from e-beam sample receipt to full-scale 55nm shipping is probably in the neighborhood of ten weeks. Then there's the delay for assembly and deployment.
Either a large scale BTC buyer owns that address, or FC hasn't started using his Gen 2 funds. As far as I know, no 55nm-capable foundry accepts bitcoin.
Not to mention he's playing with fire by keeping future fiat liabilities in Bitcoin in the first place. That's like a gold mining company hoarding gold bars to save up for a new mine that they had promised to investors.
Disclaimer: Vycid stands to gain significantly from AM losing value and is still butt-hurt from this morning when he convinced himself the hash rate might actually stay at 0.
LOL. Disclaimer is in my sig, there's a giant image of carebears next to my name with the caption "the AM bear who cares".
With such powers of observation, I'm sure you make excellent investment choices.
Also - if you had actually read my posts, you would have realized that I was mocking the people who thought this fluctuation was anything other than chance.
There is a strong correlation between "Vycid is posting to the forum" and "AM is finding a block": Sometimes it is silent for 12 hours, and at other times, there is noice every 10 minutes. Let's call it luck when it is quiet.
Oh, AM found a block and Vycid only posted twice in the last couple of minutes. - Vycid, which btc securities are recommended right now?
September 11, 2013, 03:53:30 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
Thanks for keeping track of this!
so, ~2786 btc or so that hasn't gone into divs from HW sales. Maybe they will go in next week.
If that top address (9000 BTC) is withholding for expansion, that's a serious expansion planned.
Probably about a petahash.
Trouble is that it's still in BTC. If FC is going to be full-scale deployed by December he should have already sold that. Lead time on chips alone from e-beam sample receipt to full-scale 55nm shipping is probably in the neighborhood of ten weeks. Then there's the delay for assembly and deployment.
Either a large scale BTC buyer owns that address, or FC hasn't started using his Gen 2 funds. As far as I know, no 55nm-capable foundry accepts bitcoin.
Not to mention he's playing with fire by keeping future fiat liabilities in Bitcoin in the first place. That's like a gold mining company hoarding gold bars to save up for a new mine that they had promised to investors.
Disclaimer: Vycid stands to gain significantly from AM losing value and is still butt-hurt from this morning when he convinced himself the hash rate might actually stay at 0.
LOL. Disclaimer is in my sig, there's a giant image of carebears next to my name with the caption "the AM bear who cares".
With such powers of observation, I'm sure you make excellent investment choices.
Also - if you had actually read my posts, you would have realized that I was mocking the people who thought this fluctuation was anything other than chance.
September 11, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
Thanks for keeping track of this!
so, ~2786 btc or so that hasn't gone into divs from HW sales. Maybe they will go in next week.
If that top address (9000 BTC) is withholding for expansion, that's a serious expansion planned.
Probably about a petahash.
Trouble is that it's still in BTC. If FC is going to be full-scale deployed by December he should have already sold that. Lead time on chips alone from e-beam sample receipt to full-scale 55nm shipping is probably in the neighborhood of ten weeks. Then there's the delay for assembly and deployment.
Either a large scale BTC buyer owns that address, or FC hasn't started using his Gen 2 funds. As far as I know, no 55nm-capable foundry accepts bitcoin.
Not to mention he's playing with fire by keeping future fiat liabilities in Bitcoin in the first place. That's like a gold mining company hoarding gold bars to save up for a new mine that they had promised to investors.
Disclaimer: Vycid stands to gain significantly from AM losing value and is still butt-hurt from this morning when he convinced himself the hash rate might actually stay at 0.
September 11, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
Thanks for keeping track of this!
so, ~2786 btc or so that hasn't gone into divs from HW sales. Maybe they will go in next week.
If that top address (9000 BTC) is withholding for expansion, that's a serious expansion planned.
Probably about a petahash.
Trouble is that it's still in BTC. If FC is going to be full-scale deployed by December he should have already sold that. Lead time on chips alone from e-beam sample receipt to full-scale 55nm shipping is probably in the neighborhood of ten weeks. Then there's the delay for assembly and deployment.
Either a large scale BTC buyer owns that address, or FC hasn't started using his Gen 2 funds. As far as I know, no 55nm-capable foundry accepts bitcoin.
Not to mention he's playing with fire by keeping future fiat liabilities in Bitcoin in the first place. That's like a gold mining company hoarding gold bars to save up for a new mine that they had promised to investors.
September 11, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
Thanks for keeping track of this!
so, ~2786 btc or so that hasn't gone into divs from HW sales. Maybe they will go in next week.
If that top address (9000 BTC) is withholding for expansion, that's a serious expansion planned.
September 11, 2013, 02:00:51 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
AM owns this (though it also gets divs) and seems like a lot of traffic to and from this address. http://blockchain.info/address/1HgTJED7XEGy4vVwKa8kgefWqUB3VRX2mW
Currently about 9000 BTC here.
Other stuff:
1. The HW payments I was keeping track off from group buy threads, most of them ended up here (http://blockchain.info/address/1ZGtnxLWYVDbUVXPQLTRqnF6Bv6u2BMf8). They still weren't part of the divs (~1670 BTC)
2. Similar one, with ~616 BTC still there - http://blockchain.info/address/18GHa147X18rdNPxJeuNeEM7L7SFzsvTyi - From hw sales
3. Both Sonic and Cannary's group buy payment still has approx. 500 BTC (I imagine most of this being sent to FC, after deducting reseller commission)
http://blockchain.info/address/16ARXc5LhCnz111qD5xRUR3mWVg6gkBcU4
http://blockchain.info/address/14ja5p6K1gqYgmZQPCU295UxducKwaT6pw
September 11, 2013, 01:46:37 PM
I assume some revenue was kept back again this week, but does anyone know approximately how much has been kept back in total?
September 11, 2013, 01:20:07 PM
is it to much to ask from friedcat to read his own meter and tell us once a week or so what it really was like....
would that change anything? What's most important is 2nd generation of chips and weekly dividends. No amount of words will change this
it will end all the tea leeves reading and rice grain counting.
September 11, 2013, 01:18:54 PM
I don't care about having an official meter. What matters is the number of blocks found, and this is open info. And ultimately as TAT mentionned, dividends are the only meaningul output we're interested in, weeks after weeks.
This.
All of the rest is just a pony show.
September 11, 2013, 01:16:56 PM
I don't care about having an official meter. What matters is the number of blocks found, and this is open info. And ultimately as TAT mentionned, dividends are the only meaningul output we're interested in, weeks after weeks.
September 11, 2013, 01:08:08 PM
is it to much to ask from friedcat to read his own meter and tell us once a week or so what it really was like....
would that change anything? What's most important is 2nd generation of chips and weekly dividends. No amount of words will change this
September 11, 2013, 12:35:43 PM
is it to much to ask from friedcat to read his own meter and tell us once a week or so what it really was like....
Consider that knowing the farm size at all moments is not something that is actually that useful to a shareholder. You are already given weekly performance indicators through the dividends, which is more than most any stock can offer.
Also consider that with franchising now a part of the game, indicating farm hashing totals isn't exactly an easy task.
September 11, 2013, 12:22:49 PM
is it to much to ask from friedcat to read his own meter and tell us once a week or so what it really was like....
September 11, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
All TATI AM PTs should have successfully eceived their dividends by now. Thanks!
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