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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 997. (Read 3917568 times)

legendary
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I was also thinking about the argument of MPoE-PR about the divs a company gives degenerate its share price a little. of course I disagree that this is affecting ASICMINER shares with the same magnitude that it would with companies exposed to more friction against fiat. But also thought, Wouldn't that also mean that as I receive more dividends my loses because of a future share price is lessened?

For example if I bought 1 share for 2.5BTC then for ten consecutive weeks I received 0.025TC as dividends, The share price falling to 2.25BTC is still "Not a loss".  Grin

Well to be technical depends on the company
Berkshire
But I like a healthy dividend Smiley
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My humbly small auction of 27 direct shares

Just putting this out here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/auction-27-direct-asicminer-shares-232353
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I was also thinking about the argument of MPoE-PR about the divs a company gives degenerate its share price a little. of course I disagree that this is affecting ASICMINER shares with the same magnitude that it would with companies exposed to more friction against fiat. But also thought, Wouldn't that also mean that as I receive more dividends my loses because of a future share price is lessened?

For example if I bought 1 share for 2.5BTC then for ten consecutive weeks I received 0.025TC as dividends, The share price falling to 2.25BTC is still "Not a loss".  Grin
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@ Maciek: I assume you've send a message to asicminerblades A gmail.com with the info like described here? (and not a PM)

Yes I did. I guess I just have to wait. I just thought that somebody here was ordering some 12gh/s Blades recently and could tell me how long the waiting time is Smiley


Typically I have waited ~48 hours for a response for my blade orders. They have always been shipped in less than 12 hours from the time my payment was made. However, I recently waited about 4 days for a share transfer, which is about 2-4x what I've seen in the past, so that is reason for me to believe they have been even more busy than usual recently. I would bet that they will get back to you within another day or two.

If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo


shhh I'm not finished stockpiling yet.
legendary
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That wall has prevented the share price to bubble up - I think it gave everyone some ground to base share prices on, and the steady flow reinforces the share market now. with 1100 shares left (assumption) tomorrow's dividend will tell how fast it will go.

It definitely did prevent a popping surge on the price by forcing a point of stability
That might become part of a key support line for many investors later down the road Smiley
It pays enough dividends at that price to see long holding  Cheesy
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That wall has prevented the share price to bubble up - I think it gave everyone some ground to base share prices on, and the steady flow reinforces the share market now. with 1100 shares left (assumption) tomorrow's dividend will tell how fast it will go.
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-fixed-price-auction-25btcshare-2000-shares-213729

The minimum quantity on this wall has made it especially resilient.  It might be a while yet before it comes down.

TAT or DeadTerra should buy these up and throw them in their PT's Cheesy They'd probably make a quick profit at this rate..

Not sure they have enough capital though. Even with TAT.VIRTUALMINE's funds.. it's a ways off.

Not sure that guys wall should even be considered a wall. It's a stretchy wall. It's something we can blow past, and when we do, someone BTC wealthy will pick up those shares as a steal.
legendary
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-fixed-price-auction-25btcshare-2000-shares-213729

The minimum quantity on this wall has made it especially resilient.  It might be a while yet before it comes down.
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-fixed-price-auction-25btcshare-2000-shares-213729


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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

its about to sky rocket in the next week, if this dividend is high then next week asicminer shares will be atleast 2.7 each
watchhh!

oh btw btc will also be about 200 each soon maybe after a few drops ill buy back in cheaper:)
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.
legendary
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink
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If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo

couldn't agree with you more...and i am desperate to get more...cashing in a small IRA to buy more btc to do just that Smiley just wish i had money to buy shares

EDIT: and yes i feel like i missed the boat..but not just any boat...the golden boat...but can you really miss a boat if you didn't know about btc back then?

Calculate in Dividend Reinvestment and you get even more than that Smiley. Currently, ASICMINER is my second (and most stable at 1.5% weekly) btc income source. The other being loans (higher risk).

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If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo

couldn't agree with you more...and i am desperate to get more...cashing in a small IRA to buy more btc to do just that Smiley just wish i had money to buy shares

EDIT: and yes i feel like i missed the boat..but not just any boat...the golden boat...but can you really miss a boat if you didn't know about btc back then?
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Runeks, love your chart!  Would it be possible to adjust your second chart, or add a new one, so that there is an overlay of the previous week(s)?  Basically I want to easily at a glance see if we are doing better or worse then last week without having to hover over the line and count the days.  Donations incoming after I get my next divs (spent last weeks on hookers and blow already) as I realize I look at your chart daily, and I have yet to donate to you!
Is this what you had in mind?



It shows that we were way ahead last week, compared to the previous week, but at about the same level this week compared to last week.

It also shows the interesting effect of variance, when comparing this weeks increase in total mining rewards with last week's. We can see it went faster last week for a period (the red line rises faster than the blue line), but that current week's mined BTC caught up with it along the way, which it should if we're mining at the same speed. In fact, if we're mining at the same speed, the lines might divert for a bit, but should always converge at some point, which is what we're seeing.

Good call about adding this chart! It's very useful for investors who'd like to know how we're doing compared to last week.

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted.  I don't know if it is possible to add a drop down or some such thing to be able to move the "history" graph so you can compare week X to current week, instead of just the last week. Or maybe just have two charts.... one for "Best week" and one for "Last week" since those would be the two most interesting data points.

Either way, you have done amazing, and I found some bitcoin laying around so enjoy the donation! Also... you changed the link text of your donation link, but not the actual link... so in my QT client I sent the donation to your old address and not your new armory one because I was too lazy to copy paste.
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If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo

typical pump and dump....without the dump Wink
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If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo
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edit:
Can anybody tell me how this newly created block can be 'worth' 33.7BTC?
https://blockchain.info/tx/0d940ffe19e9ba005790c01101f9a317229bffb50b31e509e50dd81cb77615dc
(the rest of the new blocks is about 25BTC + ~1% extra because of the transactions fees , not 34% Tongue)


My guess: Someone spent 8.7 Btc as fee.
Maybe he wanted to do the miners a favour :3
(or more likely it was an accident)

It is NOT an accident. Check the address: https://blockchain.info/address/1MsmThtteKPu6fWxwn2SMDEnmJex3vKSBk?offset=0&filter=0
It consistently pays large TX fees. I hope someone find out what kind of appliction this is.
legendary
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Any speculations about sharepricedevelopment?

We will see above BTC3 this year for sure.
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They probably just dont want to be like everyone else at the moment and feed people promises until they have something on their hands.

+1, What I always liked about ASICMINER since the IPO when BFL and bASIC were all the hype and ASICMINER was the new kid on the block who states that "I won't sell them I would make them and mine with them", Then suddenly BAM 5TH!
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