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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 997. (Read 3917058 times)

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Anyone a guess for the dividends? Tongue

My quick guess: 0.03514 BTC/share Wink Cool
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Because the wallet was left with 1100 coins last week Wink

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Thanks for explaining that will need to look at the mining wallet next time as well + Doc  Grin
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Because the wallet was left with 1100 coins last week Wink

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Transactions out of the mining wallet sighted:

https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i?offset=0&filter=0

7442BTC in 2 transactions, or about 0.018605BTC per share. That's just the mining wallet, btw. The destination address is the same as that used last week.

Coins from BTCGuild must be getting pretty small by now and won't contribute much.

I'm gonna stick my neck out and estimate 0.032BTC as this week's dividend.

Thanks for posting
I'll join you in that neck sticking at around that range
Google doc estimated 0.01554 on the mining side surprisingly above average Smiley
Unless I read it wrong
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkPdXsQFT-vIdHRVUjQ5Ql9BQWR6OENLMkhyUktUblE#gid=12
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What you are really saying is 'I am too poor and/or too cheap and/or too scared to buy AM hardware.  I am jealous of those who have more money than I do and envy, to the point of resentment, their unquestionably gutsy decision to take a risk.  Instead of being direct and honest about my mere personal opinion, I'll dress it up as some fancy kind of Economic Fact with a fig leaf of ROI to hide my naked butthurt.'
Nice.
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As somebody pointed out in Jutarul's auction thread, total return = shares*appreciation + dividends.

So if you have positive dividends, you could have slight negative appreciation (declining share price) and still have a positive return.

There is actually a dividend effect in the stock markets, where a stock price will decline somewhat on the ex-dividend date. This is the most pronounced when sizable cash or stock dividends are paid.
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I was also thinking about the argument of MPoE-PR about the divs a company gives degenerate its share price a little. of course I disagree that this is affecting ASICMINER shares with the same magnitude that it would with companies exposed to more friction against fiat. But also thought, Wouldn't that also mean that as I receive more dividends my loses because of a future share price is lessened?

For example if I bought 1 share for 2.5BTC then for ten consecutive weeks I received 0.025TC as dividends, The share price falling to 2.25BTC is still "Not a loss".  Grin

Well to be technical depends on the company
Berkshire
But I like a healthy dividend Smiley
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My humbly small auction of 27 direct shares

Just putting this out here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/auction-27-direct-asicminer-shares-232353
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I was also thinking about the argument of MPoE-PR about the divs a company gives degenerate its share price a little. of course I disagree that this is affecting ASICMINER shares with the same magnitude that it would with companies exposed to more friction against fiat. But also thought, Wouldn't that also mean that as I receive more dividends my loses because of a future share price is lessened?

For example if I bought 1 share for 2.5BTC then for ten consecutive weeks I received 0.025TC as dividends, The share price falling to 2.25BTC is still "Not a loss".  Grin
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@ Maciek: I assume you've send a message to asicminerblades A gmail.com with the info like described here? (and not a PM)

Yes I did. I guess I just have to wait. I just thought that somebody here was ordering some 12gh/s Blades recently and could tell me how long the waiting time is Smiley


Typically I have waited ~48 hours for a response for my blade orders. They have always been shipped in less than 12 hours from the time my payment was made. However, I recently waited about 4 days for a share transfer, which is about 2-4x what I've seen in the past, so that is reason for me to believe they have been even more busy than usual recently. I would bet that they will get back to you within another day or two.

If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo


shhh I'm not finished stockpiling yet.
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That wall has prevented the share price to bubble up - I think it gave everyone some ground to base share prices on, and the steady flow reinforces the share market now. with 1100 shares left (assumption) tomorrow's dividend will tell how fast it will go.

It definitely did prevent a popping surge on the price by forcing a point of stability
That might become part of a key support line for many investors later down the road Smiley
It pays enough dividends at that price to see long holding  Cheesy
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That wall has prevented the share price to bubble up - I think it gave everyone some ground to base share prices on, and the steady flow reinforces the share market now. with 1100 shares left (assumption) tomorrow's dividend will tell how fast it will go.
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-fixed-price-auction-25btcshare-2000-shares-213729

The minimum quantity on this wall has made it especially resilient.  It might be a while yet before it comes down.

TAT or DeadTerra should buy these up and throw them in their PT's Cheesy They'd probably make a quick profit at this rate..

Not sure they have enough capital though. Even with TAT.VIRTUALMINE's funds.. it's a ways off.

Not sure that guys wall should even be considered a wall. It's a stretchy wall. It's something we can blow past, and when we do, someone BTC wealthy will pick up those shares as a steal.
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-fixed-price-auction-25btcshare-2000-shares-213729

The minimum quantity on this wall has made it especially resilient.  It might be a while yet before it comes down.
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-fixed-price-auction-25btcshare-2000-shares-213729


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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.

its about to sky rocket in the next week, if this dividend is high then next week asicminer shares will be atleast 2.7 each
watchhh!

oh btw btc will also be about 200 each soon maybe after a few drops ill buy back in cheaper:)
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink

Uhhh... What wall?  Is there still some big forum auctions going on?  Because all the main exchanges have... no walls.
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It will break this resistance once all the walls are broken  Wink
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If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo

couldn't agree with you more...and i am desperate to get more...cashing in a small IRA to buy more btc to do just that Smiley just wish i had money to buy shares

EDIT: and yes i feel like i missed the boat..but not just any boat...the golden boat...but can you really miss a boat if you didn't know about btc back then?

Calculate in Dividend Reinvestment and you get even more than that Smiley. Currently, ASICMINER is my second (and most stable at 1.5% weekly) btc income source. The other being loans (higher risk).

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If ASICMINER can hold a 25% hashing share, then the average weekly income (in BTC per share) would be 0.01575 BTC/share.

Disregarding revenue from hardware sales, if we annualize just mining returns over 52 weeks,
then one ASICMINER share should return 0.819 BTC which yields incredible annual returns even at high share prices:
2.5BTC : 32.8%
3.0BTC : 27.3%
3.5BTC : 23.4%
4.0BTC : 20.5%
5.0BTC : 16.4%
10.0BTC : 8.2%

Obviously, I have not included operating expenses such as electricity, R&D, new equipment, nor have I included the income from sales of mining hardware. For this period in ASIC rollout, revenues from mining hardware sales will far outweigh operations and development costs.

Honestly, I realize that the people who were early investors in ASICMINER have made out so good that late comers may feel they have missed the boat on ASICMINER. However, in reality, a 10% annual return on investment is a fantastic dividend, which means buying into ASICMINER will continue to be a very good investment so long as they can keep up the hashrate. IMO shares of ASICMINER are still massively undervalued. There simply isn't another Security out there that grows your BTC's quite as effectively as ASICMINER. Personally, I am dumbfounded as to why people aren't more desperate to be holding ASICMINER shares.

My two µBTC
-Exo

couldn't agree with you more...and i am desperate to get more...cashing in a small IRA to buy more btc to do just that Smiley just wish i had money to buy shares

EDIT: and yes i feel like i missed the boat..but not just any boat...the golden boat...but can you really miss a boat if you didn't know about btc back then?
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