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Topic: ASICMiner USB group buy- orders closed, pay for extra! - page 81. (Read 165759 times)

legendary
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... I mean, none of us are planning to seriously mine with these things, so waiting isn't a big deal.

I now know who to turn to for long range clairvoyance skills.  What is your rate?

full member
Activity: 184
Merit: 100
it hasn't even been a week and there's already a mutiny aboard?  jeez.

The longer the community puts up with scammy bullshit, the longer it will be before Bitcoin is a solution which can be relied upon to accomplish real things.

This USB device is an unimportant novelty trinket for me.  A vastly more important facet of this effort is finding out who can be relied on for complex projects.

I am unimpressed and disappointed if John K's role as an operator of Friedcat's auction factors in any way into better or worse results for Arklan's group-buy (and by extension, the future of my funds.)  It would on it's face seem more ethical if John K had turned down work on one of the two projects.

Just sayin'...and I rarely hold my tongue about such things Wink



If anyone has shown that they deliver it is ASICMiner.  They aren't "scammy" at all.

You can get your refund and be done with it.  The rest of us will get our cool novelties.  I mean, none of us are planning to seriously mine with these things, so waiting isn't a big deal.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
If anyone wants my spotfor 1 asic miner let me know..

letting go for the same price

- Danny
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1067
Christian Antkow
I recommend everyone hit up SR, purchase a quarter of some high quality Sativa, and chill the funk out.

Everything gonna be cool.
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
it hasn't even been a week and there's already a mutiny aboard?  jeez.

Seriously.  Especially since the terms were all spelled out very well when the GB started.

I do enjoy sarcasm and comic relief.   So, thanks!

legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
it hasn't even been a week and there's already a mutiny aboard?  jeez.

The longer the community puts up with scammy bullshit, the longer it will be before Bitcoin is a solution which can be relied upon to accomplish real things.

This USB device is an unimportant novelty trinket for me.  A vastly more important facet of this effort is finding out who can be relied on for complex projects.

I am unimpressed and disappointed if John K's role as an operator of Friedcat's auction factors in any way into better or worse results for Arklan's group-buy (and by extension, the future of my funds.)  It would on it's face seem more ethical if John K had turned down work on one of the two projects.

Just sayin'...and I rarely hold my tongue about such things Wink

full member
Activity: 184
Merit: 100
it hasn't even been a week and there's already a mutiny aboard?  jeez.

Seriously.  Especially since the terms were all spelled out very well when the GB started.
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
it hasn't even been a week and there's already a mutiny aboard?  jeez.
hero member
Activity: 493
Merit: 500
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break

You also said you did not mind paying more in fees, since it was a insignificance amount to you.

It was stated in the posting by friedat they would not be taking orders for 15-20 more days.    I always expected to now see my unit till June most likely, or end of May if very lucky.  This is why I thought it important to trim the costs since there was no way to get it faster

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Where?  I missed it.  If you can find that statement, I stand corrected and retract most of my complaints.

Note that 'taking orders' is not nearly the same thing as 'shipping'.  Obviously shipping cannot happen until the items are done.  But I do expect a pipeline process where orders are shipped simultaneously with pieces being produced.  IOW, it would make little sense to get a batch of 10,000 built and tested, and only then start taking orders and shipping.

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Oh guys, relax.  Undecided

Friedcat is trying to get the chips on his hands before he will start the ordering process, and I have PM'ed him early to reserve a top spot for 429 USB's. If he decides to run this via a fixed-price auction (like the recent blade auction), I am confident enough to grab a top spot too seeing that I am running the auction. Friedcat ships within a day after the coins are received from my previous experience with him.

He has given his word here (Its lead-time is conservatively 15-20 days), and I fully expect him to go within his timeframe.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
I said this earlier, and it's still true.

I'm interested in 2 at face value here, if anyone wants to back out or isn't able to meet their obligations.

M
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
even if difficulty were currently DOUBLE what it is now
You do realize that difficulty is likely to be at least 5x what it is now by late this year don't you?
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Hey, once you get these let me know if you have an extra one to sell..
Thanks Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 403
Merit: 250
Um how long is this gonna take to get the erupters?  Do we have an ETA?

i should have them in hand towards the end of next week, latest. so depending on the postal sevice, you should get em by approximately the end of the month.

the above are estimates.

10-4
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
Hopefully we won't have too many refund requests...

Ah, the joys of group buys...

I for one never expected an outstanding ROI.  At 5 watts, even if difficulty were currently DOUBLE what it is now AND the profitability decline is at .61, you'd still pay back in less than 2 years.  Understood that's nothing CRAZY, but for me mining is really more about getting bitcoins outside of unreliable sketchy ass exchanges anyway.  Plus I help the network and it's a fun hobby. 

Seriously, the chips are going to be available soon, and there are tons of group buys and DIY/Open Source PCB boards that will be available; serious miners should be following those way more closely.  This was (as I recall) more of a novelty item for most anyway.  Waiting a week is really not that big a deal. 

I'm mostly with ya, but am pissed and disappointed that ~friedcat does not seem to be reliable and proficient as a counterpart.  Oh well.  I'm sure there will be more, and am looking forward to how closely 2nd-gen ASIC's approach a theoretical performance maximum (and price minimum for that matter.)

I also would point out that if Bitcoin undergoes another sharp price increase, economics could change on a dime.  It is worthwhile to have something which could hash, even if it is just a GPU, but it's not something I've ever felt to be a force driving me to get set up for.  Just sitting on BTC covers that corner-case.

legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1008
Hopefully we won't have too many refund requests...

Ah, the joys of group buys...

I for one never expected an outstanding ROI.  At 5 watts, even if difficulty were currently DOUBLE what it is now AND the profitability decline is at .61, you'd still pay back in less than 2 years.  Understood that's nothing CRAZY, but for me mining is really more about getting bitcoins outside of unreliable sketchy ass exchanges anyway.  Plus I help the network and it's a fun hobby. 

Seriously, the chips are going to be available soon, and there are tons of group buys and DIY/Open Source PCB boards that will be available; serious miners should be following those way more closely.  This was (as I recall) more of a novelty item for most anyway.  Waiting a week is really not that big a deal. 

i'm with ya. my father's long been in the stock market in a minor way, so i've talked about bitcoin to him a bit. the ROI info blows his mind. anything under 5 years is shocking to him...

i figure as long as they pay a little more then their electricity, they stay on. which is why my gpu is still chugging.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Hopefully we won't have too many refund requests...

Ah, the joys of group buys...

I for one never expected an outstanding ROI.  At 5 watts, even if difficulty were currently DOUBLE what it is now AND the profitability decline is at .61, you'd still pay back in less than 2 years.  Understood that's nothing CRAZY, but for me mining is really more about getting bitcoins outside of unreliable sketchy ass exchanges anyway.  Plus I help the network and it's a fun hobby. 

Seriously, the chips are going to be available soon, and there are tons of group buys and DIY/Open Source PCB boards that will be available; serious miners should be following those way more closely.  This was (as I recall) more of a novelty item for most anyway.  Waiting a week is really not that big a deal. 
full member
Activity: 184
Merit: 100
Hopefully we won't have too many refund requests...

Ah, the joys of group buys...
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
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I will sign a message pointing to this forum post if need be.

I won't have access to a trusted machine for a few days so I'll sign this now.

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The problem would come if the order got down below 300.  I'm a participant in this group-buy effort  and definitely don't want to screw anyone here.

At this point I would like it if you keep my order, but:

If ~friedcat has not published a clearly documented policy on ordering and shipping by May-16-2013 and received our funds, and if he has not put us in the queued appropriately given that we had our money on the table some days ago:

If you have more than 300 order when the time comes to pay ~friedcat, do not include my order.
Instead, refund me, and take any fees which are appropriate to compensate you both for your outstanding work.  I believe that anything up to .5 BTC for this would be fair but am happy to leave it to you two to make the decision based on whether there are other people who fall into the same category.
Keep my funds until the end so that you may evaluate the fair costs when all is said and done.

I will sign a message pointing to this forum post if need be.
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Although it could be edited:

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legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1008
Um how long is this gonna take to get the erupters?  Do we have an ETA?

i should have them in hand towards the end of next week, latest. so depending on the postal sevice, you should get em by approximately the end of the month.

the above are estimates.
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