Topic: Attention Theymos: This is a sMerit holdup! Hands in the air! - page 5. (Read 21790 times)

Used to be, but recently it's not anymore.


You can start by only merit question/answer that you can understand, i also use this method


Besides, i read all thread on those section (since usually there's only 3-10 bumped thread everyday) & i report all recent spam/plagiarism, so there's no way shitpost exist on recent threads.

Still, there's few spammer who throw jargon (such as using SHA256 to encrypt data) and think no one would notice

According to DdmrDdmr's data Development & Technical Discussion has fewer overall merits than many other boards (~7k in 10 months, compared to 12k for Bitcoin Discussion, 27k for Meta, and 22k for Economics). However, it has the highest merit-to-post ratio at 0.566, which is around 2x Meta, 10x Economics and 20x Bitcoin Discussion. So although posts there are generally the highest merited of anywhere on the forum, I still think there are some posts that are under-merited for how good they are.



Definitely agree here. I very rarely comment in Technical Discussion, but I read it a lot. Some of the content, particularly from users like gmaxwell and Coding Enthusiast, are way above my level of knowledge, but I figure if you never read things you don't understand/challenge you, then you'll never learn more, and learning more about the technical side of bitcoin is something that I think is good for everyone in this space.



I was thrilled to find one just yesterday (here if you are interested). It reminded me the initial reason I started trawling these threads was in search of good posts and not just to mass report spammers, which unfortunately seems to be what the majority of my time in that board is spent doing.

I don't think so. Plus ETFbitcoin became a merit source just now and he's hanging out there a lot.

  Many of the answers are over by head too, TBH. However, if someone is spouting an error, it's pretty common for others to quickly point it out. Also, the questions and answers sometimes inspire me to go out and do my own research. I don't believe that the two boards are particularly under-merited. However, if you ever grow weary of trying to hunt out newbie posts by sifting through a great deal of muck, there is much low-hanging fruit to be picked in those two boards.

I don't doubt you at all.  The problem is that I can almost guarantee that most answers would be over my head, technically.  I might be able to tell whether a post is a shitpost or not, but I don't trust my technical knowledge enough to know a good answer from a bad one.  Still, I'll keep that in mind.  

This has been mentioned before, but remind me:  Is the Bitcoin Development & Technical Board a section that tends to be under-merited?  That's a section I have on ignore, but not because of the quality of posts.  It's because of my own ignorance.  All of my education has been in fields having little to do with computer science, and when I see people incorporating a lot of tech jargon in their posts, my eyes glaze over pretty quickly.  

I'll keep an open mind on this one and un-ignore that section for the time being.

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Alright, that's reassuring.  I'm still going to un-ignore the tech sections for now and see if I can do a little reading and hunting. 

You would think that Bitcoin Discussion would be the place where most merit-worthy posts get made, since this is Bitcointalk, but it's the exact opposite.  Yet it makes sense that the technical sections would be places where the shitposters don't go, because they can't get away with having their shitposts hidden in an ocean of similar vacuous nonsense, nor can they simply tap out a generic statement about how bitcoin has a bright future and is increasing day by day and expect it to fit in with the members who really know what they're talking about.

Merit Sources have a personal assigned sMerit quota, which differs from one source to another (the smaller Merit Sources may have a 30 day quota in the lower two digits, whilst the top Merit Sources may have a quota near 1K). They are given all their allocated sMerit on the first day they are appointed/upgraded, and have 30 days to award it in (unawarded sMerit is "lost").

The sMerit quota is replenished exactly 30 days after every single spent sMerit, and mirrors the last 30 day spending behaviour. So say a Merit Source has a total allocated quota of 50 sMerits per 30 days, and awards 10 sMerits on the first day he is appointed a Merit Source, 20 on the second, none on the third and 30 on the fourth. He will then (in this example) be out of merit for the following 26 days.
Exactly 30 days(*) after he sent his first 10 sMerits, his balance will be replenished with 10 additional sMerits, the following day he will see an additional 20 sMerits on his balance, the following day will not have an increase, and on the day after that he’ll receive another 30 sMerits.

(*) It’s a bit more complicated, since it really considers exactly 30 days. Down to the minute and second (I believe).

  If you are looking for newbies to merit, the Bitcoin Development & Technical Board as well as the Bitcoin Technical Boards are a good place to start. Some newbies come up with some really good questions and answers.

I'd love to be able to give out 5-8 merits to some exceptional posts (but I would reserve such a large grant to ranks lower than Hero), but previously there was no way I could do this and still have enough sMerits left over to merit all the other good posts I see.

Thank you for checking my meriting history for the last 120 days.  I haven't even been a merit source for that long--I think it was at the end or middle of september when Theymos added that batch of 36 new sources.  I've been trying to spread out merits to deserving posts (and NOT just the really good posters on Meta who don't need them to rank up) but always ran out of sMerits even when I became a merit source.  That's why I had to ask Theymos for this favor, which I'm grateful for, as well as for his reply here.  I may disagree with some of his administrating tactics, but he's no dummy and I've seen worse administrators. 

I'm on the hunt now mainly in Economics/Speculation, Meta, and Reputation, though occasionally I stray far from my usual sections.  Yes, I definitely do have a lot of sections blocked, but that's because there are only so many hours in the day to read and write on bitcointalk, and I just find some sections too spam-infested to even bother with.  I would be tickled pink to be able to merit a good post by a Newbie in Bitcoin Discussion, but trying to find one of those is incredibly difficult just by searching and reading through posts--that's why there needs to be some sort of reporting mechanism.  The individual threads don't seem to be effective.

I will say this again:  ***If you're a lower-ranked member and think you or someone else has made or found a post that's gone unmerited, drop me a PM and I'll take a look.***  I've made the offer in other threads, but got zero takers.  In the PM, just write something like "Merit?" and then a link to the post.  I'll either merit it or I won't, but you can be guaranteed I'll look at the PM, the post, and most likely the member's post history as well.

I had seen on few occasions that other merit sources complaining that they are not getting enough good post to complete their merit quota of that period,even though theymos said them to send more amount of merits to the merit worthy post if you can't see much worthy post.

But @TP here asking for more merits to give the generous amount of merits to the HQ post,well deserved to be a merit source.

I am sure theymos will consider about this. He already did.

Merits isn't and should never be about how quickly they get used, but rather how well they're used. Would you say If a post is obviously merit worthy it shouldn't be merited simply because you're going to run out allocation ?
Looking at The Pharmacist merit history for the past 120 days he has merited over 200 posts (I lost count at 200) and has only given a maximum of 3 merits to Just only 8 different posts and has only given out a max of 8 merits a single day, he'd mostly given out 1 or 2 merits to post which in my opinion connotes that he'd prefer to have it widely spread so as a worthy post would not have to miss out. How else do you think it could have been more wisely/fairly used ?

I used to think every smerit sources had a constant particular merit allocated to them evenly well correct me if that is wrong?  If your smerit is increased it will affect the balance of distribution no matter how many smerit you are giving if you want to use them up quickly you would still do that. Well the best is to work on your allocation of distribution

Good to know, that means my source doubled instead of trippled which I initially thought.

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For what it's worth: I appreciate this topic, it turned out to be informative.

Good to see that your smerit amount has been increase. You are the one if them who handle their smerit very carefully. I am not sure how much amount allocated for you but I think all merit sources smerit allocations are not same. I am aware about your merit distribution that how hardly you handle them.

I am also encourage to help lower rank peoples especially newbie who made at least good post. Everyone could check my merit history. But I don't have enough merit to distribute and its little bit difficult to find newbie meritable post. Especially during send merit to newbie who have 0 merit I would like to visit his post history. My bad luck theymos haven't accept me as a merit source, however I will follow up LoyceV post once I will run out from smerit.

I guess you can send a PM to an Admin if this is necessary , if you have a problem or else about the forum .

Just do it if you feel about or let it , depends on yourself !

Lol, that's much more comforting to know ,probably a P.M could have been the better option for this issue, but starting a thread turned out to be the best,not only is the community discussing the issue,exchanging views on it, but even the president Administrator Theymos is on hand in the thread to clarify a lingering issue on PM's(To him)cos me personally prior to this thread,i wouldn't consider sending you a PM cos I'll feel you wouldn't read it in a million years,so we kinda solved two issues with one thread.

I guess it turned out to be the perfect thread, kudos to TP

Whenever a merit source's source amount is adjusted upward or downward, it is immediately completely replenished. This'll be a factor.


How I handle PMs:

 - I try to at least skim all PMs. Rarely I might misplace some, but usually not.
 - If I feel ready to immediately resolve your PM, and I feel that it is a reasonable request worth my time, then I do it. Often this is replying to questions or doing simple tasks, but sometimes I'll have already been working on / thinking about it for days/weeks/months and your PM will get me to devote a few hours to finally resolving the thing right then and there. If even newbies ask questions which I consider reasonable, I usually answer!
 - If I am not ready to act on your thing, often due to uncertainty or lack of immediate time, then your issue enters my "leaky queue". Unfortunately, a lot of these things never end up getting done. (But I do try to get to the most important ones.)

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You have to do a lot more than disagree with me to get me to dislike you. And even if eg. MemoryDealers came to me with some reasonable issue with his usage of the forum, I'd handle it like I would for anyone else.

It says "Administrator" under my name, not "President". Anyone is free to PM/email me.

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sorry thought you are a source  .... and just wrote down a few i think that aren't a source...... and really would fit the JOB, there are many other members of course

Ok maybe I was being a little harsh... To be honest, I'm getting annoyed at people opening threads on meta in order to fish for merits... In hindsight this isn't one of those but my point is it could still easily be resolved with a pm now the main issue, not the underlying one and not the actual "experience of a merit source" that's probably worth a thread. I haven't negged anyone yet for it which I think is showing great restraint on my part (the inforgraphics are what really annoy me). This forum is becoming a little bit disinteresting, you have to look at historical threads if you want anything interesting to read at the moment (not for everything just a few things). It disappoints me that more merit has been earnt from meta than everywhere else. Maybe this will change with the new forum software, they're either putting a lot of effort into it or have hired a lot of mercenaries and bought their own island.

I'm not sure theymos holds grudges for long either. I'm pretty sure he used to hate me for quite some time.. 

He is quite a fast replier I don't know how he does it either. It was faster than a btc transaction confirmation at a low fee .

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I thought your merit source budget increased with experience and based on expenses for the month (expenses based on smerit not the lambo hilarious has on lease).

@o_e_l_e_o I always take the effort to use the underscores and now you're saying we can just call you Leo?

@mic, wow I didn't make the cut .

leonardo dicaprio, man of 100 good movies
leonardo da vinci, man of (what was he not?)

meeeh for me keep it easy with mic or Micg 

mmmm best gonna wait for a while myself

but i could apply for some other members that would fit to be good merit sources

HairyMaclairy

last of the V8

XhomerX10

BTCMILLIONAIRE

bitserve

Spaceman_Spiff_Original

somac.

raja_MBZ

biodom

jojo69

paashaas or maybe friends1980 ( don't know him good) --- but just saw he put some effort in the dutch (Netherlands) threads, and probably someone needed there, still many members available if needed


there are many more but just some regular posters with good intentions etc....