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So, bringing merge mining back to the discussion.

Pros:

- Increased hashrate/network security

Cons:

- Increased dumping

Discussion:

Auroracoin presently has a rather low inflation rate. It is lower than Myriad's and Digibyte's. For this reason, I feel that dumping is not a big concern for Auroracoin. In any case, the issues with merge mining and dumping are largely exaggerated — most mined coins get dumped, merge mining or not.

Because Auroracoin has low inflation, hash rate is more of a concern than it is for Myriad and Digibyte. Low hash rates open up vulnerability to 'difficulty hopping'. In worst case scenarios, a block doesn't get found for hours on that algo— and then 10 blocks get found in 1 minute. Of course, the rewards all get dumped. In a multi-algo system, this scenario is less damaging, because the other algos will continue to find blocks. It is, however, more likely— each algo already has rather a low hash rate, with only ~20% of the block rewards.

In Myriad, we had the experience that sha256d and scrypt were suffering from extensive difficulty hopping. We switched to merge mining for those algorithms, and it's worked out fantastically. Our current scrypt difficulty is 4383.68.... Aurora's is only 690.82.... And our scrypt is only for ~20% of the block rewards!

Personally, I would recommend enabling merge mining on all 5 algorithms. It would enable miners to mine AUR on top of their MYR, DGB, or soon XVG (Groestl). Added security for AUR and support for the whole multi-algo flock, at little cost.

At the very least, go with merge mining on sha256d and scrypt.

Merged mining is discussed and currently not on the roadmap.

- It would in no way alter the instamining scene
- it would introduce a new attack vector where someone can merge mine the coin against itself and get rewarded even if the attack fails.
- with this wallet, the retargetting is calculated over all algos so diff hopping in SHA256d will have less effect.

Lets wait with discussions about algo related changes till we passed block 225000, and then review the results from real life experience.

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Would Auroracoin consider enabling merge mining on all the algorithms as well as a hardfork to multi-algo?

Merge mine against Groestl as the parent coin for the algo. SHA256 can stay on its own. Scrypt merge on litecoin. The other 2 algos can be discussed.

Merge mining has been discussed before as one option to secure the blockchain but no actions have been taken towards that.

Our main goal with the coin development will always be to implement improvements that will benefit stability and security of the blockchain. I'm sure that merged mining will be considered if it will help us to achieve those goals.

Does merged mining on top of multi-algo provide a noteworthy increase in security and stability?
What do you guys think the pros and cons of such an implementation would be?

Merge mining will prevent 51% attack on each algorithm or on multiple as individuals won't be able to rent enough hash. It is easy for scammers like the original AUR dev to rent load of hash and disrupt an entire algorithm.


Asia coin was the worst of all the country coin scams . They dumped on the community.  Then they pretended to do a community takeover and dumped again and they had a hidden premine.Balduro made more money as asiacoin never reached the heights of AUR. AUR was the first and what followed was a whole barrage of premine scams until everyone caught on. Then it was IPO's, Then ICO'S etc
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How long till we hit block 225000?

Should be on, or very shortly after, May 1st.

-Fuse
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How long till we hit block 225000?
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Just an FYI, I'm reading on a lot of boards here about problems getting coins out of Bter. Not sure if it is a Cryptsy-type problem or just temporary.
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Why there is no Blackberry in the image ?   WHY ?   WHY !!!!!!!

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Anti-Canadian bigotry.

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So, bringing merge mining back to the discussion.

Pros:

- Increased hashrate/network security

Cons:

- Increased dumping

Discussion:

Auroracoin presently has a rather low inflation rate. It is lower than Myriad's and Digibyte's. For this reason, I feel that dumping is not a big concern for Auroracoin. In any case, the issues with merge mining and dumping are largely exaggerated — most mined coins get dumped, merge mining or not.

Because Auroracoin has low inflation, hash rate is more of a concern than it is for Myriad and Digibyte. Low hash rates open up vulnerability to 'difficulty hopping'. In worst case scenarios, a block doesn't get found for hours on that algo— and then 10 blocks get found in 1 minute. Of course, the rewards all get dumped. In a multi-algo system, this scenario is less damaging, because the other algos will continue to find blocks. It is, however, more likely— each algo already has rather a low hash rate, with only ~20% of the block rewards.

In Myriad, we had the experience that sha256d and scrypt were suffering from extensive difficulty hopping. We switched to merge mining for those algorithms, and it's worked out fantastically. Our current scrypt difficulty is 4383.68.... Aurora's is only 690.82.... And our scrypt is only for ~20% of the block rewards!

Personally, I would recommend enabling merge mining on all 5 algorithms. It would enable miners to mine AUR on top of their MYR, DGB, or soon XVG (Groestl). Added security for AUR and support for the whole multi-algo flock, at little cost.

At the very least, go with merge mining on sha256d and scrypt.
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legendary
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How many bagholders does AUR have because of this asshole?

I wouldn't consider anyone here a bagholder as a result of Fontas.  I would think anyone caught in a Fontas AUR bull/bear trap would have probably sold and moved on by now.  But to be honest, I really don't think Fontas would have had the pull to make his claims true.  We're talking about something to the tune of 1400BTC in AUR at that time.  He would have had to have gotten in at the dip when it went to 0.002 and sold on the 0.01 spike.  I doubt he was playing the spread like that with that much coin.

Like I said, he was a troll at best.

-Fuse
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That really is crazy, this person Fontas was the creator of Auroracoin?

No, he wasn't.

Fontas was a troll on the BTC-E troll box that used to trick people into pump and dumps so that he could make money himself.  He called one or two price increases, and everyone thought he was responsible for them.  So after that he would buy a ton of coin, announce a pump, pump the price and then immediately sell out and leave everyone holding the bag.  If you were smart enough to stay away from it or sell at the right point, you could make some money off the people that would blindly listen to him.  If you weren't, well... a lot of people got out of crypto because people like him took them for all their coin.

-Fuse

How many bagholders does AUR have because of this asshole?

Bagholders are every1 that post in ANNs after being dumped by mighty Fontas.
newbie
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That really is crazy, this person Fontas was the creator of Auroracoin?

No, he wasn't.

Fontas was a troll on the BTC-E troll box that used to trick people into pump and dumps so that he could make money himself.  He called one or two price increases, and everyone thought he was responsible for them.  So after that he would buy a ton of coin, announce a pump, pump the price and then immediately sell out and leave everyone holding the bag.  If you were smart enough to stay away from it or sell at the right point, you could make some money off the people that would blindly listen to him.  If you weren't, well... a lot of people got out of crypto because people like him took them for all their coin.

-Fuse

How many bagholders does AUR have because of this asshole?
legendary
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That really is crazy, this person Fontas was the creator of Auroracoin?

No, he wasn't.

Fontas was a troll on the BTC-E troll box that used to trick people into pump and dumps so that he could make money himself.  He called one or two price increases, and everyone thought he was responsible for them.  So after that he would buy a ton of coin, announce a pump, pump the price and then immediately sell out and leave everyone holding the bag.  If you were smart enough to stay away from it, you were ok.  If you bought, hopefully you were smart enough to sell at the right point, because you could make some money off the people that would blindly listen to him.  If you weren't, well... a lot of people got out of crypto because people like him took them for all their coin.

-Fuse
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Fontas was my idol.

Ah lol aurora is still here. I found an old pm I got im march on btc-e  Grin 

I guess it was to be clear for an half year ago that aurora is a scam


http://s7.directupload.net/images/141130/opu2uswv.jpg

haha WTF?!?!

I got a PM from LTEX and I want to respect the new development teams efforts trying to rebuild AUR, I won't be posting more about the airdrop.

That really is crazy, this person Fontas was the creator of Auroracoin?
legendary
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this is a much welcomed development by Auora users in South Africa.

The new geo location feature waggle will be a novel way of tracking and communicating with other users in our immediate vicinity.

My immediate plan is to set small cafe's up with signs that say: "buy auroracoin here". these merchants will acitivily sell auroracoin instead of passively accepting it.

Accepting auroracoin is one thing but this does little to spread the use of the coin. Instead I have approached most of the Cafe's here in town and have explained how crypto-currency works and the benefits they can take advantage of when actually selling coins to the public.

We appreciate the enthusiasm of some of the followers here.  It is humbling that people would be excited to adopt AUR in places outside of Iceland.  However, the team is going to clearly state our goal once again: adoption of Auroracoin in Iceland.  We will not endorse any effort to use or promote AUR outside of it’s intended audience.  While members like Whistleblower and Adamastor would be a welcome resource here in Iceland, we will not endorse or condone any effort from them to make AUR an economic solution in Africa.

- Auroracoin development team -
 
 
 

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The airdrop has made Auroracoin the most decentralised coin on the planet right now.

The big holders that do exist hold much smaller proportions of total supply as compared to any other coin.

In the effort to decentralize finance, you are welcome to present a coin that is more decentralized than auroracoin.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/#!rich

In the top 100 addresses you can see a lot of duplication. Addresses 24-42 belong to the same person (950 000 AUR). This is most likely LTEX, Biomike or Kenchanyu or foundation addresses who are the largest holders of AUR.

63% of the distributed coins is in less then 20 peoples hands imo. This makes the risk/reward very good for those trying hard to make it work in Iceland.

Foundation I think owns top 2 addresses in rich list or that could be the exchange ?

This is the address the +-5.3 million AUR was burned.
http://explorer.auroracoin.eu/address/AURburnAURburnAURburnAURburn7eS4Rf
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this is a much welcomed development by Auora users in South Africa.

The new geo location feature waggle will be a novel way of tracking and communicating with other users in our immediate vicinity.

My immediate plan is to set small cafe's up with signs that say: "buy auroracoin here". these merchants will acitivily sell auroracoin instead of passively accepting it.

Accepting auroracoin is one thing but this does little to spread the use of the coin. Instead I have approached most of the Cafe's here in town and have explained how crypto-currency works and the benefits they can take advantage of when actually selling coins to the public.
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I got an incorrect PIN error when I try to authenticate into the wallet.
I'm using Chrome Version 49.0.2623.87 m
Same with Firefox.
So every time I use the wallet, the passphrase must be introduced.
Send/receive work like a charm.
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It's possible to add a hardware key like ledger to the wallet?

What do you mean?
Do you have an example?
Yes, the Mycelium integration of Ledger.*
Ledger is a cheap hardware key working with NFC and standard USB ports.
This is the NFC example of 2FA wallet integration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndr4POhQntk
These keys can be personalized with the AUR logo and a QR code...

*EDIT:
I have no personal interest in selling the Leger technology to the AUR DEV's.
I'm just aware that mass adoption without strong wallet security is bad, really bad.
Someone, someday will exploit a security breach. Hardware 2FA is mandatory.
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