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legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
On wtm we treat all 144,5 coins as zhash.

Just makes more sense from miner perspective to aggregate them under single name, as all of them use same miner and hashrate values.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Barely visible. Watch the capture, arrina are ZEL and BTZ de cointomine, and just below you can see a little ZAL of coinscalcutor

What I do not know if it is the cointomine api problem that calls the coins in another way internally, or some change in this latest version of today.

I have updated and just after it has happened. I have the 4 aggregators activated at the same time, Cointomine with premium API due to my donation.

I'll tell you if it can be fixed in some way.
This is basically the same issue and the same workaround can be applied. As the same coin can exists multiple times with different algorithms (for example Digibyte and a few more), Awesome Miner can list each combination of unique coin and algorithm.

In this case we have a few coins that are listed with both Equihash 144.5 (from CoinToMine) and ZHash (from WhatToMine/CoinCalculators?). Both will show up as Awesome Miner see they have different algorithms.

I will try to re-map some of these coins to the correct algorithms in Awesome Miner itself.

Edit: It looks like WhatToMine and CoinCalculators lists a few coins differently as well. XSG is one example - making it show up twice - one for each algorithm. Right now I'm a bit unsure which one is correct and this goes for a few coins.
jr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 2



Barely visible. Watch the capture, arrina are ZEL and BTZ de cointomine, and just below you can see a little ZAL of coinscalcutor

What I do not know if it is the cointomine api problem that calls the coins in another way internally, or some change in this latest version of today.

I have updated and just after it has happened. I have the 4 aggregators activated at the same time, Cointomine with premium API due to my donation.

I'll tell you if it can be fixed in some way.
jr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 2
Hello @Patrike, I have updated and even a bug. Suddenly two coins in equihash 144.5 have gone up to an incredible profit, even 1 btc per day. is doing the autoprofit wrong with this failure.

I do not know if you will have to correct it or I have any option in the program to correct this AM failure.

I'm waiting for someone's help. Thank you.
strange, I'm fine and there is no this bug

Well, I have not touched anything. I have only updated and it has come out that way, and it persists. I have the currencies deactivated so that I do not mine them. Let's see what @patrike says because just before the update it showed up well, and after today's update, that has come out ... I do not know what could have happened.
I think I know what the problem is.
Problem in Cointomine.today calculator
Try using CoinCalculator.io and move it to the very top. I think after that you will be fine.
If not, wait for Patrike .
I'm sorry, I just want to help you.
CoinToMine is considering BTCZ to be Equihash 144.5, which isn't fully correct as it's the ZHash version of Equihash 144.5. Equihash 144.5 typically have a different exponential factor when calculating number of coins per day.

This is the reason why you only see this if CoinToMine is your primary coin source and not WhatToMine or CoinCalculators as they report it as the algorithm ZHash.

The workaround for the moment would be to go to the Options dialog, Statistics Provider section, and use "Override coin algorithm" to set "BTCZ" to the ZHash algorithm. Then Awesome Miner will apply the correct calculations.

The reason why it worked better with the previous version of Awesome Miner was that Equihash 144.5 coins wasn't loaded at all from CoinToMine - so you only got BTCZ from CoinCalculators/WhatToMine.

I see the error, in the coins tab I have 2 times BTCZ and 2 times ZEL, one of cointomine that is the one that is wrong and others of Coinscalculator that is correct. They change the difficulty and hash.

What I do not understand is because AM allows two equal currencies to exist two ZEL and two BTCZ

If I deactivate Cointomine, the problem disappears. If I leave Cointomine activated, Zel and BTCZ appear in first place with the wrong data.

The truth that cointomine is giving many headaches.

but everything has happened after the update. Test PAtrike to activate all aggregators and see if it happens to you
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
Setup: Force nVidia CUDA mining software to order divices by PCI Bus ID - no longer available, return it please, it is very necessary, please help.

This settings for ver Version 6.0 (2018-11-28) - is available

Cur ver 6.1 2019-01-13 - not available

Please return this option back to mining settings
You will find this setting in the Options dialog, GPU settings now. There are a number of settings moved to this new section.

This new section starts with the premium version, and was earlier everywhere.

Or is it enabled by default?
Sorry - this is for sure a bug in 6.1. It's only supposed to be the MSI Afterburner settings that should be disabled unless you have Premium Edition or above.

The other settings like CUDA device order should of course be available for everyone. Thanks for finding this issue - I will correct it.

A workaround for the moment would be to exit Awesome Miner and manually modify ConfigData.xml (in %appdata%\AwesomeMiner\) and change the value of "CudaOrderByPciBusId" from False to True.

Thank.

I thought that I was picky)))
Good thing I could help, thank you.

  true
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Setup: Force nVidia CUDA mining software to order divices by PCI Bus ID - no longer available, return it please, it is very necessary, please help.

This settings for ver Version 6.0 (2018-11-28) - is available

Cur ver 6.1 2019-01-13 - not available

Please return this option back to mining settings
You will find this setting in the Options dialog, GPU settings now. There are a number of settings moved to this new section.

This new section starts with the premium version, and was earlier everywhere.

Or is it enabled by default?
Sorry - this is for sure a bug in 6.1. It's only supposed to be the MSI Afterburner settings that should be disabled unless you have Premium Edition or above.

The other settings like CUDA device order should of course be available for everyone. Thanks for finding this issue - I will correct it.

A workaround for the moment would be to exit Awesome Miner and manually modify ConfigData.xml (in %appdata%\AwesomeMiner\) and change the value of "CudaOrderByPciBusId" from False to True.
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
Setup: Force nVidia CUDA mining software to order divices by PCI Bus ID - no longer available, return it please, it is very necessary, please help.

This settings for ver Version 6.0 (2018-11-28) - is available

Cur ver 6.1 2019-01-13 - not available

Please return this option back to mining settings
You will find this setting in the Options dialog, GPU settings now. There are a number of settings moved to this new section.

This new section starts with the premium version, and was earlier everywhere.

Or is it enabled by default?
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Setup: Force nVidia CUDA mining software to order divices by PCI Bus ID - no longer available, return it please, it is very necessary, please help.

This settings for ver Version 6.0 (2018-11-28) - is available

Cur ver 6.1 2019-01-13 - not available

Please return this option back to mining settings
You will find this setting in the Options dialog, GPU settings now. There are a number of settings moved to this new section.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
I also noticed that when the internet disappears for 2 minutes, the awesome miner constantly restarts gminer
or if the authorization error "Authorization on Stratum Server Failed: Login failed" also awesome miner causes gminer to restart.
Can I fix this?

Quote
Initialize diagnostics (2)
Starting Diagnostics. Awesome Miner version: 6.0.11
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
nVidia driver version: 416.34
Microsoft VC++ 2013 runtime installed: Yes
Microsoft VC++ 2015 runtime installed: Yes
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 2
Engine Type: 14, Auto Download: False, EnginePath: D:\Shara\Maйнинг\Miner Soft\gminer_1_17_windows64\miner.exe, Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Properties: (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: 14, IsProfitMiner: False)
====================================================================================================
D:\Shara\Maйнинг\Miner Soft\gminer_1_17_windows64\miner.exe  --ssl 1 -a 150_5 -d 1 2 -s eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com -n 3322 -u baf.115445 -p x --pers auto -w 0 --api 4029
====================================================================================================
Mining Engine Process started, PID: 10388
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> |                  GMiner Equihash Miner v1.17                   |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> Algorithm:          Equihash 150,5
> Stratum server:    
>   host:             stratum+ssl://eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com:3322
>   user:             baf.115445
>   password:         x
> Power calculator:   on
> Color output:       on
> Watchdog:           off
> API:                http://127.0.0.1:4029
> Log to file:        off
> Selected devices:   GPU1 GPU2
> Temperature limits: 90C  90C
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 18:44:24 Connected to eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com:3322
> 18:44:26 Authorization on Stratum Server Failed: Login failed
> 18:44:26 All user mining pools are unavailable

====================================================================================================
Unexpected exit of mining software. Possible cause: Incorrect configuration or crashing software
Diagnostics completed
What happens here is the Gminer process is terminating. The diagnostics indicate this by printing the message "Unexpected exit of mining software".

When mining, Awesome Miner will react to the fact that Gminer no longer are running, consider it to be a crash or similar issue, and then restart Gminer again. I suppose this will happen until Gminer reconnect again and keep running and right now I don't think there are any good solutions to this.
I propose to add an option: do not restart the miner when there is no connection to the pool.

true

T-rex - not restart for internet los
Gminer - restart for internet los

As you noticed, this behavior is specific to which mining software you run. Awesome Miner doesn't really know that progress of the connection between the mining software and the mining pool. Most mining software will keep trying to connect. If they never connect Awesome Miner will then detect this by the fact that no Accepted shares are being produced.

In this case, Gminer itself terminate itself and Awesome Miner isn't part of that decision and cannot do anything about it. Awesome Miner will just react to the fact that Gminer no longer are running and will restart it.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Hello @Patrike, I have updated and even a bug. Suddenly two coins in equihash 144.5 have gone up to an incredible profit, even 1 btc per day. is doing the autoprofit wrong with this failure.

I do not know if you will have to correct it or I have any option in the program to correct this AM failure.

I'm waiting for someone's help. Thank you.
strange, I'm fine and there is no this bug

Well, I have not touched anything. I have only updated and it has come out that way, and it persists. I have the currencies deactivated so that I do not mine them. Let's see what @patrike says because just before the update it showed up well, and after today's update, that has come out ... I do not know what could have happened.
I think I know what the problem is.
Problem in Cointomine.today calculator
Try using CoinCalculator.io and move it to the very top. I think after that you will be fine.
If not, wait for Patrike .
I'm sorry, I just want to help you.
CoinToMine is considering BTCZ to be Equihash 144.5, which isn't fully correct as it's the ZHash version of Equihash 144.5. Equihash 144.5 typically have a different exponential factor when calculating number of coins per day.

This is the reason why you only see this if CoinToMine is your primary coin source and not WhatToMine or CoinCalculators as they report it as the algorithm ZHash.

The workaround for the moment would be to go to the Options dialog, Statistics Provider section, and use "Override coin algorithm" to set "BTCZ" to the ZHash algorithm. Then Awesome Miner will apply the correct calculations.

The reason why it worked better with the previous version of Awesome Miner was that Equihash 144.5 coins wasn't loaded at all from CoinToMine - so you only got BTCZ from CoinCalculators/WhatToMine.
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qqbpqteayjtrx1z/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202019-01-13%20a%20las%2017.12.10.png

Hello @Patrike, I have updated and even a bug. Suddenly two coins in equihash 144.5 have gone up to an incredible profit, even 1 btc per day. is doing the autoprofit wrong with this failure.

I do not know if you will have to correct it or I have any option in the program to correct this AM failure.

I'm waiting for someone's help. Thank you.
strange, I'm fine and there is no this bug

Well, I have not touched anything. I have only updated and it has come out that way, and it persists. I have the currencies deactivated so that I do not mine them. Let's see what @patrike says because just before the update it showed up well, and after today's update, that has come out ... I do not know what could have happened.
I think I know what the problem is.
Problem in Cointomine.today calculator
Try using CoinCalculator.io and move it to the very top. I think after that you will be fine.
If not, wait for Patrike .
I'm sorry, I just want to help you.
jr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 2


Hello @Patrike, I have updated and even a bug. Suddenly two coins in equihash 144.5 have gone up to an incredible profit, even 1 btc per day. is doing the autoprofit wrong with this failure.

I do not know if you will have to correct it or I have any option in the program to correct this AM failure.

I'm waiting for someone's help. Thank you.
strange, I'm fine and there is no this bug

Well, I have not touched anything. I have only updated and it has come out that way, and it persists. I have the currencies deactivated so that I do not mine them. Let's see what @patrike says because just before the update it showed up well, and after today's update, that has come out ... I do not know what could have happened.
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
Setup: Force nVidia CUDA mining software to order divices by PCI Bus ID - no longer available, return it please, it is very necessary, please help.

This settings for ver Version 6.0 (2018-11-28) - is available

Cur ver 6.1 2019-01-13 - not available

Please return this option back to mining settings
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qqbpqteayjtrx1z/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202019-01-13%20a%20las%2017.12.10.png

Hello @Patrike, I have updated and even a bug. Suddenly two coins in equihash 144.5 have gone up to an incredible profit, even 1 btc per day. is doing the autoprofit wrong with this failure.

I do not know if you will have to correct it or I have any option in the program to correct this AM failure.

I'm waiting for someone's help. Thank you.
strange, I'm fine and there is no this bug
newbie
Activity: 117
Merit: 0
I also noticed that when the internet disappears for 2 minutes, the awesome miner constantly restarts gminer
or if the authorization error "Authorization on Stratum Server Failed: Login failed" also awesome miner causes gminer to restart.
Can I fix this?

Quote
Initialize diagnostics (2)
Starting Diagnostics. Awesome Miner version: 6.0.11
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
nVidia driver version: 416.34
Microsoft VC++ 2013 runtime installed: Yes
Microsoft VC++ 2015 runtime installed: Yes
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 2
Engine Type: 14, Auto Download: False, EnginePath: D:\Shara\Maйнинг\Miner Soft\gminer_1_17_windows64\miner.exe, Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Properties: (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: 14, IsProfitMiner: False)
====================================================================================================
D:\Shara\Maйнинг\Miner Soft\gminer_1_17_windows64\miner.exe  --ssl 1 -a 150_5 -d 1 2 -s eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com -n 3322 -u baf.115445 -p x --pers auto -w 0 --api 4029
====================================================================================================
Mining Engine Process started, PID: 10388
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> |                  GMiner Equihash Miner v1.17                   |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> Algorithm:          Equihash 150,5
> Stratum server:    
>   host:             stratum+ssl://eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com:3322
>   user:             baf.115445
>   password:         x
> Power calculator:   on
> Color output:       on
> Watchdog:           off
> API:                http://127.0.0.1:4029
> Log to file:        off
> Selected devices:   GPU1 GPU2
> Temperature limits: 90C  90C
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 18:44:24 Connected to eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com:3322
> 18:44:26 Authorization on Stratum Server Failed: Login failed
> 18:44:26 All user mining pools are unavailable

====================================================================================================
Unexpected exit of mining software. Possible cause: Incorrect configuration or crashing software
Diagnostics completed
What happens here is the Gminer process is terminating. The diagnostics indicate this by printing the message "Unexpected exit of mining software".

When mining, Awesome Miner will react to the fact that Gminer no longer are running, consider it to be a crash or similar issue, and then restart Gminer again. I suppose this will happen until Gminer reconnect again and keep running and right now I don't think there are any good solutions to this.
I propose to add an option: do not restart the miner when there is no connection to the pool.

true

T-rex - not restart for internet los
Gminer - restart for internet los
jr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 2


Hello @Patrike, I have updated and even a bug. Suddenly two coins in equihash 144.5 have gone up to an incredible profit, even 1 btc per day. is doing the autoprofit wrong with this failure.

I do not know if you will have to correct it or I have any option in the program to correct this AM failure.

I'm waiting for someone's help. Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Awesome Miner version 6.1

 ASIC mining
  - Antminer S15 and DR5 supported for monitoring. Please note that these miners doesn't have SSH enabled making it impossible to use the feature to set Privileged API access.
  - Show the detected ASIC type in the Summary tab
 GPU mining
  - Awesome Miner can read and display the current power usage for both AMD and nVidia GPU's without any dependencies on mining software. Also used for the real time profit calculations and benchmarking.
  - Power usage factors can be configured individually for AMD and nVidia if needed
  - GPU tab shows current power usage in the Performance column (previously called Speed)
  - GPU tab shows vendor name (Asus, MSI, EVGA, ...) for each GPU
  - Improved compatibility for reading nVidia GPU fan speed
  - Allow passing the pool attribute COIN for Phoenix Miner
  - Added additional algorithms
 Features
  - Exchange filtering redesigned and can be configured both globally and per coin. Supported for CoinCalculators.io and CoinToMine
  - Note: Any previously specified exchange filter settings based on API string matching must be re-defined with the new filtering concept
  - Exchange volume filtering implemented for all coin statistics providers
  - The Coins tab will indicate the information that didn't pass the filter settings
  - Additional power usage and operating cost can be defined globally in the new Profitability section of the Options dialog. The values will affect the total power usage and profitability displayed on the dashboard and the total values in the miner column header.
  - Additional power usage and operating cost per miner can be defined in the Profit Profile. The values will reduce the profitability of a miner.
  - The Miner list shows power usage in the Performance column (previously called Speed).
  - New setting for power usage mode in the Options dialog, Profitability section. Configurable to use actual power usage (only for GPU, not ASIC), linear scaling or static values. Note: Linear power scaling is by default not used but can be enabled using this setting.
  - ZCoin block explorer for wallet balance
 API
  - Improved the HTTP API for coins with a new property to set the profit factor property
  - Improved the HTTP API for coins with a new property to set if the custom properties of a coin should be used
 User interface
  - The Coins & Profit section in the Options dialog has been split into two new sections - Profitability and Coins.
  - The GPU Clocking Profiles and MSI Afterburner settings have been moved into sub sections of the Managed Hosts section. Renamed the MSI Afterburner section to GPU Settings as it include additional configuration.
  - Rearrange controls in the Options dialog, Algorithms section and Profit Profile properties where hashrate and power usage are defined to make more space for GPU Clocking profile selection
  - GPU clocking profile selection controls adds an edit operation to make it easier to make modifications to clocking profiles
  - When selected a GPU clocking profile from the list in the Profit Profile properties (or example), a tooltip can be displayed to indicate the clocking settings of the selected profile
  - GPU tab provides easier access to the GPU overclocking feature by making it a button instead of a sub menu item
  - Coins with custom properties enabled will be highlighted in blue color on the Coins tab
  - Show up to 20 device temperatures in the Status column
  - Remove display of WU (Work Utility) for ASIC miners in the miner list as it's not relevant enough to display all the time. The value is still visible on the Summary tab.
 Mining software
  - Z-enemy Miner 1.28
  - T-Rex miner 0.9.1
  - Lolminer 0.6
  - NBMiner 12.2
  - Gminer Cuda Miner 1.18, including support for Equihash 150.5 (Beam)
  - WildRig Multi Miner 0.14 beta
  - CryptoDredge 0.16.1
  - BMiner 11.4, including dual mining of Ethereum and Tensority (BTM). CuckooCycle (Aeternity) and Equihash 150.5 (Beam) support.
  - Claymore Dual Ethereum Miner 12.0
  - SRBMiner 1.7.5
 Corrections
  - More detailed error messages in the log file if MSI Afterburner Remote Server is returning a failure code
  - More fail safe pool processing when starting a Managed Profit Miner
  - Correction to GPU monitoring for Generic Miners running on Linux
  - Correction to the CoinToMine integration to include a few missing algorithms based on Equihash
  - Added a few missing algorithms when integrating with CoinToMine
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/iq8cdg4oko0hrw0/Captura%20de%20pantalla%202019-01-12%20a%20las%2019.31.56.png

Hello @PAtrike that I communicate this atypical error.

I'm doing a mining test to XGCS in the pickaxe.pro pool is X16R, in the Coins tab it appears as the correct profit 0.0020, but in miners and when mining, the gain does not appear, if the coins appear correctly for more or more day less is correct. But look to the right of the whole as it does not indicate the gain of the currency.

Right now I have it straight for the test and measure the pool, but I think if it does not mark the benefit of mining, it will not work with autoprofit.

I hope it can be solved, I'm using Z-enemy, I've tried with t-rex and it does not give me the value that I'm winning in real time in miners. It's a problem.
This will depend a bit on how you configured the exchange and volume filters. This coin has quite low volume for example, so if it's not above your limit, the revenue while mining will be considered 0.

In the coins tab where it shows up as 0.0020, is this text i gray or anything else on the line gray to indicate that the coin doesn't meet your filter critera? If not, is it working if you set the Volume Filter to 0 and enable all exchanges?
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
I also noticed that when the internet disappears for 2 minutes, the awesome miner constantly restarts gminer
or if the authorization error "Authorization on Stratum Server Failed: Login failed" also awesome miner causes gminer to restart.
Can I fix this?

Quote
Initialize diagnostics (2)
Starting Diagnostics. Awesome Miner version: 6.0.11
OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
nVidia driver version: 416.34
Microsoft VC++ 2013 runtime installed: Yes
Microsoft VC++ 2015 runtime installed: Yes
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 2
Engine Type: 14, Auto Download: False, EnginePath: D:\Shara\Maйнинг\Miner Soft\gminer_1_17_windows64\miner.exe, Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Properties: (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: 14, IsProfitMiner: False)
====================================================================================================
D:\Shara\Maйнинг\Miner Soft\gminer_1_17_windows64\miner.exe  --ssl 1 -a 150_5 -d 1 2 -s eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com -n 3322 -u baf.115445 -p x --pers auto -w 0 --api 4029
====================================================================================================
Mining Engine Process started, PID: 10388
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> |                  GMiner Equihash Miner v1.17                   |
> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> Algorithm:          Equihash 150,5
> Stratum server:     
>   host:             stratum+ssl://eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com:3322
>   user:             baf.115445
>   password:         x
> Power calculator:   on
> Color output:       on
> Watchdog:           off
> API:                http://127.0.0.1:4029
> Log to file:        off
> Selected devices:   GPU1 GPU2
> Temperature limits: 90C  90C
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 18:44:24 Connected to eu-ru01.miningrigrentals.com:3322
> 18:44:26 Authorization on Stratum Server Failed: Login failed
> 18:44:26 All user mining pools are unavailable

====================================================================================================
Unexpected exit of mining software. Possible cause: Incorrect configuration or crashing software
Diagnostics completed
What happens here is the Gminer process is terminating. The diagnostics indicate this by printing the message "Unexpected exit of mining software".

When mining, Awesome Miner will react to the fact that Gminer no longer are running, consider it to be a crash or similar issue, and then restart Gminer again. I suppose this will happen until Gminer reconnect again and keep running and right now I don't think there are any good solutions to this.
jr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 2
A little warning off topic. One of the shitexchange that have been recently added safe.trade, yesterday was hacked and the DEV have already said that the BTC that would not be reimbursed, I am an affected. Right now you can not even enter. It is expected that they reactivate it in the next days and fall of the safecoin price, so that you do not hold that currency for now.

I am reluctant to use such small exchanges and time has given me reason. They are not responsible for their failures.

I will post this over and over, so anyone can come in and ask any question they may wish. Almost every thing in this users post is a lie. Please join us and follow the announcements for updates to the breach.


Please join the Safe Discord and feel free to ask about this issue. The team is still investigating the breach and going over the logs. When a plan concerning the lost funds is in place, it will be made public. To stay up to date with the news, please join the Discord.

SafeCoin and SafeTrade has been and will continue to be one of the most transparent teams in crypto.

https://discord.gg/vQgYGJz




If you please enter your discord and ask when the BTC is going to pay you, you will soon be silenced, insulted or laughed at by you.

You are right now in a very delicate post full of miners. As you learn that now you can not store safecoin, that wallets do not work, that no exchange accepts it ... In the end it is worse for you.

I do not talk about this anymore for this awesome miner forum. It can be filled with scammers, in this case Safecoin.
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